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Posted: 11/5/2009 6:33:45 AM EDT

Zombies. We will say fast zombies. For the sake of argument most of us can agree that fast zombies are worse than slow zombies.
They are everywhere. If you get bit you become one. People you know can become zombies. The human population gets smaller as the zombie population grows.

Velociraptors. Fast, smart, teeth and claws. But you don't have to shoot the head to kill. Consider for the scenario that somehow a massive number of velociraptors has sprung up everywhere. Like 1 raptor per 20 people on earth, and they are hungry. Also for the sake of argument, these velociraptors are Jurassic park movie size.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:35:15 AM EDT

[#1]

I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:37:44 AM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

just walk into a meth house, you'll find all the zombies you want

however as of now you still can't shoot at them

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:39:17 AM EDT

[#3]

zombies are dumb ... velociraptors are smart sob's

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:40:22 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:

I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:40:37 AM EDT

[#5]

Holy shit velociraptor SHTF would be nightmarish.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:41:45 AM EDT

[#6]

Velociraptors don't increase exponentially.

I'd be more worried about zombies.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:41:52 AM EDT

[#7]

What round for velociraptors?

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:42:14 AM EDT

[#8]

Velociraptors were the size of a turkey. Yes they did travel in packs but so do dogs and I am not afraid of them.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:42:41 AM EDT

[#9]

ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:42:57 AM EDT

[#10]

The intelligence of Raptors in JP was very exaggerated. They were smart, for a dinosaur, but not so much compared to a higher mammal. Wolves/Lions are certainly smarter...

Raptors the size depicted in JP are about the size of a large Deinonychus, or small Utahraptor...

You know they were feathered right? Since JP came out they have found several Maniraptorian species preserved with feathers, including Velociraptor Mongolensis

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:43:27 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

oh dang

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:47:31 AM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

oh dang

at least it would slow them done some

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:48:29 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:

ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

oh dang

at least it would slow them done some

What round is best for a Zombie Raptor?

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:48:30 AM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:
Velociraptors don't increase exponentially.

I'd be more worried about zombies.

I concur. Attrition will ultimately reduce the velociraptor packs.

Velociraptors are cunning pack hunters, but they're not amazingly smart. Additionally, they have hollow bone structures (like the birds they would ultimately evolve into), so they are pretty fragile. 00 Buckshot would likely be more than sufficient to end them.

-Mark

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:49:53 AM EDT

[#15]

Tough one.

But raptors can't propagate at the speed zombies do. A couple of weeks of hunting out here and our raptor problem would be solved.

Containing Z's would be a bit more....problematic.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:50:48 AM EDT

[#16]

Zombies...because they create more zombies....Raptors just eat the kills and move on....no additional raptors unless they actually breed.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:53:19 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
What round for velociraptors?

They actually aren't that big. 308 would be plenty. Hell, 223 would be plenty.

Any of the common sporting calibers would work well too. 243 Win, 260 Remington, 270 Win, 30-30, 45-70, 30-06, 12 gauge with buckshot, 44 magnum, 7mm Remington Magnum would all work fine.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:54:11 AM EDT

[#18]

Zombie Velociraptors.. now that will give you nightmares

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:54:46 AM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Velociraptors don't increase exponentially.

I'd be more worried about zombies.

I concur. Attrition will ultimately reduce the velociraptor packs.

Velociraptors are cunning pack hunters, but they're not amazingly smart. Additionally, they have hollow bone structures (like the birds they would ultimately evolve into), so they are pretty fragile. 00 Buckshot would likely be more than sufficient to end them.

-Mark

As I mentioned, any of the common sporting or military calibers would work fine. They aren't that big or tough. 00 buck would mess one up good and properly.

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:57:25 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Velociraptors don't increase exponentially.

I'd be more worried about zombies.

This

Kill them before they breed you are GTG. Zombies... you are fucked you will be outnumbered shortly

Posted: 11/5/2009 6:57:36 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

oh dang

at least it would slow them done some

What round is best for a Zombie Raptor?

00 buck followed by slug. repeat.
12ga

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:05:39 AM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

You Rang?

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:17:08 AM EDT

[#23]

i'd be more worried about velociraptors b/c zombies are dumb & velociraptors are bigger, faster, smarter, stronger

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:19:45 AM EDT

[#24]

Reptiles can be stopped in their tracks with ice water. Zombies are much harder to deal with because inevitably there are too many of them.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:21:01 AM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:

I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

This.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:22:17 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

I don't have nearly enough .308 for a raptor herd....

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:23:51 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:

zombies are dumb ... velociraptors are smart sob's

Clever girls, if you will Mr. Muldoon.

If 4 AKs don't stop a charging bear, I'd be hesitant to rely on antipersonnel rounds for raptor.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:26:17 AM EDT

[#28]

Velociraptors. Edit: Never mind the rest. I didn't read the OP and went off on a tangent.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:26:50 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit!

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:29:07 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
The intelligence of Raptors in JP was very exaggerated. They were smart, for a dinosaur, but not so much compared to a higher mammal. Wolves/Lions are certainly smarter...

Raptors the size depicted in JP are about the size of a large Deinonychus, or small Utahraptor...

You know they were feathered right? Since JP came out they have found several Maniraptorian species preserved with feathers, including Velociraptor Mongolensis

http://www.firstscience.com/SITE/IMAGES/reviews/dinobirds/JS1-Feathered-Dromaeosaur-(.jpg

Yeah the science wasn't as advanced back when JP was made...and I got the feeling they played a little hard and fast with it anyway. But they did hunt in groups, so they may as well be as smart as a wolf or lion. Still amounts to sharp teeth eating me.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:29:42 AM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:

Quoted:
ZOMBIE RAPTORS!!!!!!!!!!

Holy shit!

This! It's like the Reese's Peanut Butter Cup of SHTF scenarios! Two great threats that work great together!

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:32:32 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Zombies. We will say fast zombies..

I declare the entire argument to be invalid due to the use of "fast" zombies.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:39:18 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:

Reptiles can be stopped in their tracks with ice water. Zombies are much harder to deal with because inevitably there are too many of them.

They're not reptiles. Velociraptors are in the Maniraptora clade... You know, the same clade as modern birds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maniraptor

That is why they were feathered... To maintain thermal homeostasis. Cold would not have slowed them down anymore than it does you.

They've found Dinosaurs that survived the antarctic winter such as the Leaellynasaura and Cryolophosaurus. The climate then was somewhat warmer, so it was less inhospitable. Still, the Sun disappeared for months at a time, and it was certainly below freezing for much of the year. In fact Leaellynasaura has extremely large eyes, which they believe is an adaptation for the long winter months without light.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:40:37 AM EDT

[#34]

Should I lose, I'd rather be a zombie than raptor shit.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:40:57 AM EDT

[#35]

I don't fear either –– I have a 10/22 and a .38!

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:41:21 AM EDT

[#36]

Raptors, smarter and faster than zombies.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:45:42 AM EDT

[#37]

Congress...

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:50:22 AM EDT

[#38]

Helicopter + M60= Raptors freaking lose.

Zombies are attracted to noise, so a helicopter would be out of the question, in fact any firearm, or other machine would attract zombies.

I would be much more afraid of zombies, rather than a pack of stupid dinosaurs, I would go as far to say that I would be more worried over a pack of dogs than a pack of raptors.

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:50:27 AM EDT

[#39]

Sorry guys, but I just don't think raptors would be that bad. At worst they are the equivalent of Wolves, and we dominated them when we only had stone tools.

Human kind dominated Wolves, Dire Wolves, Cave Bears, Sabre Toothed Tigers and Mammoths all with stone tools. We could certainly handle Raptors now that we have firearms and body armor. Hell, put on a suit of chainmaille, and a Raptors claws would be useless (works as a shark suit, would work as a raptor suit as well).

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:55:03 AM EDT

[#40]

Posted: 11/5/2009 7:55:18 AM EDT

[#41]

Zombies would reproduce like crazy and you would never be forced to shoot your loved ones that turned.

Posted: 11/5/2009 8:46:01 AM EDT

[#42]

Arcom has been telling me for the past year that I have been on this site to prepare for Zombies, and now you are saying there is a chance I should have been preparing for Raptors too!!!

Staff––- can we please have a Raptor forum. I need all the info I can get so I can be prepared.

Posted: 11/5/2009 8:51:25 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
I WANT the zombies to come....

But a big ass herd of Velociraptors would freak me out

DAMMIT.

Good fucking point; I hadn't really considered that. I need to re-vote.

Posted: 11/5/2009 8:52:46 AM EDT

[#44]

Raptors... zombies make noise and smell bad, so you have plenty of warning.

Posted: 11/5/2009 8:58:34 AM EDT

[#45]

As soon as winter hit, you'd no longer have to worry about Raptors unless you lived in a Tropical climate.

Posted: 11/5/2009 8:59:56 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:
zombies are dumb ... velociraptors are smart sob's

Not to mention fast as fuck.

Posted: 11/5/2009 9:18:50 AM EDT

[#47]

Zombies, they're creepy and scary
I recon velociraptors would be good eatin'

Posted: 11/5/2009 9:30:24 AM EDT

[#48]

Zombies are to hard to kill without a flame thrower, so Velociraptors would be my choice as the less scary plus then I can haz birdshot fo sho.

Posted: 11/5/2009 9:31:47 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
Holy shit velociraptor SHTF would be nightmarish.

Velociraptors are big reptiles, distantly related to birds.

Reptiles that taste like chicken.

Reptiles that make awesome boots.

Reptiles that don't have firearms.

Reptiles that are outnumbered 20:1 in your story.

I'd give them six days before being completely extinct in TX and Louisiana.

ETA: Okay, not actual reptiles, but they do taste like chicken!

Posted: 11/5/2009 11:08:25 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

As soon as winter hit, you'd no longer have to worry about Raptors unless you lived in a Tropical climate.

As I pointed out above, they have discovered several dinosaur species that survived below the Antarctic Circle. Raptors were almost certainly warm blooded, and would be far more likely to stay active in the cold then would a modern reptile, or a zombie for that matter (which would likely freeze solid)...

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