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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:17:26 AM EDT
I've got an itch to pick up a 10mm 1911 and am willing to spend around $1100 on it. I'd love a dan wesson but with the base model beginning around $1300 with bare-bones features, I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm looking for the best bang for the buck (thats not armscor) and these two have caught my eye. Which of these would you get (or are their other options I should be considering)?
Sig Tacops 1911r Pros: Can be had for about a grand, comes with 4 mags, and the few reviews I can find have been positive. Cons: Funky sig 1911 shape, so wont fit my existing holsters 
Kimber Camp Guard 10 Pros: Can be had for about $1100, nice looking gun, bobtail, and will fit my existing holsters Cons: Limited reviews, comes with only one mag, finish is likely weak, and it's a kimber, so it may be a finicky pile of shit. 
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:19:30 AM EDT
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For that kind of money, get one that actually works, the DW.
Kimber and Sig don't know anything about making 10 mm 1911s. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:19:44 AM EDT
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Of those two, the Sig.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:22:51 AM EDT
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Of those two? SIG.
But I also agree with the DW comment. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:23:20 AM EDT
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I'm not really a 1911 guy, but I am digging this one. Seems like a lot of bang for the buck. I had a GI RIA before, and never had any issue with it..fed everything with no problem.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:23:26 AM EDT
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For that kind of money, get one that actually works, the DW. Kimber and Sig don't know anything about making 10 mm 1911s. Sig has 1911s in .357SIG that actually run, if they can do that they can do anything haha. I don't think its exactly rocket surgery for someone to make a 10mm 1911. I saw a TACOPS at the pro shop not too long ago -- typical Sig quality IMO. I'd go with one. Or their P220-10 if you aren't set on a 1911, but want a single action metal full size 10mm. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:25:32 AM EDT
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What makes a 10mm 1911 any different than a 40SW 1911? Sig has 1911s in .357SIG that actually run, if they can do that they can do anything haha. I don't think its exactly rocket surgery for someone to make a 10mm 1911. I saw a TACOPS at the pro shop not too long ago -- typical Sig quality IMO. I'd go with one. Or their P220-10 if you aren't set on a 1911, but want a single action metal full size 10mm. 10mm is better with a ramped barrel and is on the longer side. Getting that to work reliably can be hard for some. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:28:18 AM EDT
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Between a SIG and a Kimber I'd get this STI Nitro for $1,419.00
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/634711296 |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:30:48 AM EDT
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Remington R1 also.
But they maybe only make it in long slide version? Not sure. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:32:37 AM EDT
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I just picked up a RIA 10mm full rail and it is very impressive doe the money.
But if those two, I'd go sig. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:33:03 AM EDT
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BRUIN
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:36:18 AM EDT
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I have the 10mm bug now too. Remington's are looking nice with the long slide, what about the Colt Deltas?
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:39:09 AM EDT
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it is. 10mm is better with a ramped barrel and is on the longer side. Getting that to work reliably can be hard for some. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What makes a 10mm 1911 any different than a 40SW 1911? Sig has 1911s in .357SIG that actually run, if they can do that they can do anything haha. I don't think its exactly rocket surgery for someone to make a 10mm 1911. I saw a TACOPS at the pro shop not too long ago -- typical Sig quality IMO. I'd go with one. Or their P220-10 if you aren't set on a 1911, but want a single action metal full size 10mm. 10mm is better with a ramped barrel and is on the longer side. Getting that to work reliably can be hard for some. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:42:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:43:15 AM EDT
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I have the 10mm bug now too. Remington's are looking nice with the long slide, what about the Colt Deltas? |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:51:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm sure that's a very nice firearm.
On a lark, I went searching for a DW 10mm yesterday because of something someone had posted. I am in Texas, but was using GunGenie to find a Razorback in Montana. Couldn't find a Razorback, but did find that Bruin at somewhere between $2030-$2300. I think that Bruin is just a little out of the range of what the OP intends to spend. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:55:10 AM EDT
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+1 on the DW. Here is my razorback.
edit: I paid $1000 locally (used) with a ton of reloading supplies. 
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:56:11 AM EDT
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+1 on the DW. Here is my razorback. http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c247/chainsawallen/Firearms/B517FC04-C4F8-4E6A-B9C9-2C95D9631E78_zpsr6lytayz.jpg |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:56:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2017 11:59:29 AM EDT
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how is it w/out the checked front grip? are the sights NS? |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:04:19 PM EDT
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Between a SIG and a Kimber I'd get this STI Nitro for $1,419.00 http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/634711000/634711296/pix222398751.jpg http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/634711000/634711296/pix912079919.jpg http://www.gunbroker.com/item/634711296 |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:09:30 PM EDT
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It's fine without the checkered grips - there is plenty to hang on to. No NS. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:13:43 PM EDT
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It looks like dawson precision may have a FO & NS front sight option for this gun and i just found a used one for 1050... decisions decisions I like FO in the front and I would sure buy from that guy with confidence. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:16:37 PM EDT
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My Colt Delta Elite has been flawless.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:18:03 PM EDT
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I just picked up a RIA 10mm full rail and it is very impressive doe the money. But if those two, I'd go sig. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:18:11 PM EDT
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agreed in that the ramped barrel is a must. that said, in my bit of research on the sig, it seems to be set up in a way that it will run reliably. foudn a post on another forum where somone with the sig 10mm compares it to his tacops in 45. distinct differences in how the ejection port is cut and the slide stop. his was/is reliable. Def intriguing. Either way the Sig 1911 10mm appears to have all the right stuff from the factory. Ramped barrel, stiffer recoil spring and it's all stainless so it's a solid gun. Believe me the recoil spring is quite a bit stiffer than the one on my .45 Tacops. Shooting them side by side the only difference I can feel is the recoil. Otherwise, they are twins of each other in every aspect. I'm not fan of Kimber but they have been putting out 10mm guns for years. If money had been less of an issue I would have gotten a Dan Wesson long slide. But they are ~ $1,700 vs the $1,000 total I paid for my Tacops. I'm very happy with it so far as it shoots great and is very well finished. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:20:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI need to win the lottery.... 
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:21:42 PM EDT
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I'd get the Sig any day of the week, have you thought about the Sig P220 SAOs in 10mm?
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:23:07 PM EDT
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My Colt Delta Elite has been flawless. My Kimber Custom Eclipse which is 10mm has also been flawless. If you are really stuck on a 1911, then one of these might scratch your itch. Personally, I think you should look at an EAA Witness Elite Match in 10mm. The cost is less. It uses double stack mags. They have a great trigger, and they are a lot cheaper. You could use the difference to buy a loading press and several thousand pieces of brass and projos. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:24:44 PM EDT
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I'd get the Sig any day of the week, have you thought about the Sig P220 SAOs in 10mm? |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:26:32 PM EDT
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If that was on 1911 forums it was probably me. However, the newer 45 Tacops have the same ejection port cut. My .45 is an older one. Either way the Sig 1911 10mm appears to have all the right stuff from the factory. Ramped barrel, stiffer recoil spring and it's all stainless so it's a solid gun. Believe me the recoil spring is quite a bit stiffer than the one on my .45 Tacops. Shooting them side by side the only difference I can feel is the recoil. Otherwise, they are twins of each other in every aspect. I'm not fan of Kimber but they have been putting out 10mm guns for years. If money had been less of an issue I would have gotten a Dan Wesson long slide. But they are ~ $1,700 vs the $1,000 total I paid for my Tacops. I'm very happy with it so far as it shoots great and is very well finished. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:31:24 PM EDT
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must have been you. Have you been shooting underwood/equiv handloads out of your sig? |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:40:57 PM EDT
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I think your question about the non- checkered front strap on the DW may have been misunderstood.
I suppose it's possible with a 10mm that it might make a little difference. Plenty of people shoot them though, and you can see that the Delta Elite is not checkered either. Get you some good G10 grips and you should be okay. Since you mentioned the four mags you get with the Sig, I'm going to go ahead and tell you that I'm not really a believer in the 10mm magazine. For the 10mm, I like the Wilson Combat 47C-HV. That is a mag made for .45 cal. It has a convex follower and works perfectly in the 10mm 1911. I'm not the guy that thinks that only WC knows how to make a magazine, but I have to tell you that I really like that one. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:42:41 PM EDT
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I think your question about the non- checkered front strap on the DW may have been misunderstood. I suppose it's possible with a 10mm that it might make a little difference. Plenty of people shoot them though, and you can see that the Delta Elite is not checkered either. Get you some good G10 grips and you should be okay. Since you mentioned the four mags you get with the Sig, I'm going to go ahead and tell you that I'm not really a believer in the 10mm magazine. For the 10mm, I like the Wilson Combat 47C-HV. That is a mag made for .45 cal. It has a convex follower and works perfectly in the 10mm 1911. I'm not the guy that thinks that only WC knows how to make a magazine, but I have to tell you that I really like that one. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:43:04 PM EDT
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Like many others said if you have any reservations about those two offerings, the 220 is a great gun and will meet pretty much every qualification (single stack, steel / alloy, available in SAO)
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Posted: 4/13/2017 12:48:46 PM EDT
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I've got an itch to pick up a 10mm 1911 and am willing to spend around $1100 on it. I'd love a dan wesson but with the base model beginning around $1300 with bare-bones features, I don't think that's gonna happen. I'm looking for the best bang for the buck (thats not armscor) and these two have caught my eye. Which of these would you get (or are their other options I should be considering)? Sig Tacops 1911r Pros: Can be had for about a grand, comes with 4 mags, and the few reviews I can find have been positive. Cons: Funky sig 1911 shape, so wont fit my existing holsters http://1911addicts.s3.amazonaws.com/2015/06/57558_bffadb60ce34e0c89e6f6d279177d597.jpg Kimber Camp Guard 10 Pros: Can be had for about $1100, nice looking gun, bobtail, and will fit my existing holsters Cons: Limited reviews, comes with only one mag, finish is likely weak, and it's a kimber, so it may be a finicky pile of shit. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Sb_BCUr1PJc/maxresdefault.jpg I believe that SIG is one of the regular 1911 profile models rather than a SIG profile pistol and will fit in an ordinary holster designed for a railed 1911. SIG makes excellent 10mm 1911s. |
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Posted: 4/13/2017 8:55:12 PM EDT
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Been considering a RIA Tactical myself, seems like a nice gun for the money.
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Posted: 4/13/2017 10:15:48 PM EDT
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I believe that SIG is one of the regular 1911 profile models rather than a SIG profile pistol and will fit in an ordinary holster designed for a railed 1911. SIG makes excellent 10mm 1911s. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 7:27:15 AM EDT
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Been shooting Colt DEs for 20 years and haven't blown one up yet.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:01:13 AM EDT
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Colt
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:03:30 AM EDT
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Glock 20 and call it a day . Probably the biggest reason 10mm is still alive is the Glock 20
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:09:22 AM EDT
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I had this debate a while back
I went with the Colt. Colt Delta 10mm $944.99 shipped Figured Colt had the best resale value of the others plus a proven track record. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:18:24 AM EDT
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Years ago I saw a Colt Delta Elite in the box all stainless and shiny with the medallion, for $400.
I passed it up because I though 10mm was a gimmick.. yeah, I still kick myself from time to time... |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:20:42 AM EDT
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This. I have had two RIA 10mms. Very accurate and leaves extra cash to spend on ammo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just picked up a RIA 10mm full rail and it is very impressive doe the money. But if those two, I'd go sig. and they don't make you choose between feeding your baby and feeding your gun. :) |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:29:06 AM EDT
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This +1 everybody wants to count RIA out when they start looking at 1911's but for they work, they look good and they don't make you choose between feeding your baby and feeding your gun. :) My pro ultra match out shoots my bros gold cup trophy. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:35:29 AM EDT
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Between sig and kimber, RIA all day long.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 8:39:37 AM EDT
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Of you original options OP. The SIG, the grips on the kimber look worthless.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 9:17:04 AM EDT
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