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Posted: 5/1/2015 12:39:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/1/2015 12:40:22 PM EDT by AR45fan]
Well?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 1:58:54 PM EDT
LCS?
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LCS-1 is probably the smallest. The Adams-class, Knox-class, and LCS-2 would all be in the running for second place.
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What about RAM? Is it used on smaller or larger ships than CIWS, generally speaking?
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SeaRam? is on the Gabrielle Giffords at 3000 tons lcs-10
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
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The Mk31 Guided Missile Launching System (aka RAM) essentially uses the same mount as Mk15 Phalanx (aka CIWS). The SeaRAM (not sure of the official designation) uses the same mount as well.


Mk15, RAM, and SeaRAM are all Close In Weapons Systems (CIWS). All perform the CIWS function, even though only one is known as CIWS.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:14:52 PM EDT
LCS-1 is the same length as the Coast Guard Hamilton Class Cutters at 378 feet.
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SeaRam? is on the Gabrielle Giffords at 3000 tons lcs-10
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Have to define "small" At 104 feet in beam and 418 feet long, the LCS-2 class is rather large compared to the Adams-class, LCS-1, FFG-7, or 1052s.
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Originally Posted By Ret_Puddle_Pirate:
LCS-1 is the same length as the Coast Guard Hamilton Class Cutters at 378 feet.
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What is the smallest US Navy ship to mount a Phalanx or other CIWS?
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:17:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dport:

What is the smallest US Navy ship to mount a Phalanx or other CIWS?
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Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By Ret_Puddle_Pirate:
LCS-1 is the same length as the Coast Guard Hamilton Class Cutters at 378 feet.

What is the smallest US Navy ship to mount a Phalanx or other CIWS?
Picky, picky picky!

But, you're right. a 378 is NOT a squid ship!
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Originally Posted By Chairborne:
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The USN doesn't use Phalanx or RAM on their smaller ships, but we don't have large numbers of small ships that could use that ability.

But you can use these on very small ships. For example, the German Gepard-class... under 400 tons, and a full bore RAM launcher.

Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:20:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ASUsax:


The USN doesn't use Phalanx or RAM on their smaller ships, but we don't have large numbers of small ships that could use that ability.

But you can use these on very small ships. For example, the German Gepard-class... under 400 tons, and a full bore RAM launcher.

http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/9/0/9/276909.jpg
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Originally Posted By ASUsax:
Originally Posted By Chairborne:
What about RAM? Is it used on smaller or larger ships than CIWS, generally speaking?


The USN doesn't use Phalanx or RAM on their smaller ships, but we don't have large numbers of small ships that could use that ability.

But you can use these on very small ships. For example, the German Gepard-class... under 400 tons, and a full bore RAM launcher.

http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/9/0/9/276909.jpg

We didn't put CIWS on the PHMs either. Probably due to the weigh penalty.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:20:52 PM EDT
The Israelis mount CIWS on smaller ships (Saar 4.5).
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I want a Phalanx to keep the birds from landing on and pooping on my grill.

Suppressed pellet gun ordered though
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:24:12 PM EDT
Not a ship... how about a flat bed trailer...



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Unrelated, but still funny.
Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:28:32 PM EDT
USS Long Beach CGN-9 had one.
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Originally Posted By ssndude:
Not a ship... how about a flat bed trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWfNLsBWPSI

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I like the General's explanation of "I need to know how the system operates to make better decisions of where to place these systems"

Translation: Oh boy oh boy! I wanna press the button!!!!!

Link Posted: 5/1/2015 2:31:30 PM EDT
FFG7 was my first thought, because I'm old. Looked at the Hydrofoils (Pegasus class). They didn't have CIWS. Guess they could outrun a missile.
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chinese type 22 boat
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Originally Posted By Caboose314:
I want a Phalanx to keep the birds from landing on and pooping on my grill.

Suppressed pellet gun ordered though
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Link Posted: 5/1/2015 6:24:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dport:

We didn't put CIWS on the PHMs either. Probably due to the weigh penalty.
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Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By ASUsax:
Originally Posted By Chairborne:
What about RAM? Is it used on smaller or larger ships than CIWS, generally speaking?


The USN doesn't use Phalanx or RAM on their smaller ships, but we don't have large numbers of small ships that could use that ability.

But you can use these on very small ships. For example, the German Gepard-class... under 400 tons, and a full bore RAM launcher.

http://cdn2.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/9/0/9/276909.jpg

We didn't put CIWS on the PHMs either. Probably due to the weigh penalty.


Not sure where on a PHM you would have put a CIWS without losing either the Harpoons or the 76mm.

Losing the Harpoons would have defeated the purpose of the ship, and I imagine they felt that for the missions intended, the 76mm was a better alternative.

Link Posted: 5/1/2015 6:30:50 PM EDT
shouldnt we have the tech to make CIWS smaller and mountable on.. well.. most things..
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Originally Posted By mousehunter:
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r192/Bucks_photo/USS_Bill_Clinton.jpg

Unrelated, but still funny.
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Ah, the USS Verne Troyer.
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