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Posted: 8/18/2005 5:58:49 AM EDT
Lots of AR15's?
Lots of ammo?
Lots of magazines for AR15's you have?

Assume they're mutually exclusive. Lets say you have $1000 to burn right now.

You could blow that on 10,000 rds of Wolf, a new AR15, or a couple Beta C Mags and a boatload of 30 rd magazines.

Who knows, there could be another AWB in the future.

What to do?

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:01:37 AM EDT
What makes you dangerous is being well trained with your rifle. Guys who only collect guns and never shoot them crack me up. Get a good reliable and accurate rifle, plenty of mags and train train train.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:08:56 AM EDT
Assuming you have a rifle, ammo is next. Then a pile of mags.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:09:12 AM EDT
I agree with the above. What good is having 10 AR's and marksmanship that Barney Fife would laugh at? Get more ammo, get good training, and then you're a force to be reckoned with. MJD
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:09:22 AM EDT
I think each situation is unique.


To give a realistic opinion we would need to know what type and how much ammo you have, what type and how many ARs you have, and how many USGI mags you have.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:10:34 AM EDT
I got 6 AR15's, lots of ammo cause i reload my own, about 50 magazines, I always have the urge to buy and hoard more mags
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:10:42 AM EDT
TRAINING COURSE
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:11:17 AM EDT
Get both. It's the ARFCOM way.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:13:45 AM EDT
Since I have just one AR, I'd probably get another.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:20:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 6:22:00 AM EDT by pyro6988]

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
I got 6 AR15's, lots of ammo cause i reload my own, about 50 magazines, I always have the urge to buy and hoard more mags



I would have to say split it between ammo and mags then.


I don't think $1000 is realistically enough for a training course when you figure in transportation, ammo, food, and lodging.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:32:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 6:36:22 AM EDT by billclo]

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
I got 6 AR15's, lots of ammo cause i reload my own, about 50 magazines, I always have the urge to buy and hoard more mags



I would have to say split it between ammo and mags then.


I don't think $1000 is realistically enough for a training course when you figure in transportation, ammo, food, and lodging.



$1000 probably isn't enough if you have to travel halfway across the country to train in AZ or some such. If you pick something more local the costs can be more reasonable.

Since the original poster has 6 ARs already, skip getting more. Has he got a LARGE stash of SHTF ammo? Reloads are fine for practice, but I'd prefer Factory ammo/good mil-surp for self defense. (note, I do load my own match rounds, and have confidence in them enough that in a pinch they'd do fine in a SHTF scenario if I didn't have an Federal Match ammo around).

If not, at least 4000-5000 rds XM193/maybe M855 would be a good start. He's got enough mags for serious use plus some for training use only. Maybe 10-20 mags NIW as an investment, some ammo, and a training class would be the best bet. Priority to the ammo and training.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:32:45 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 6:34:50 AM EDT by napalm]

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
What makes you dangerous is being well trained with your rifle. Guys who only collect guns and never shoot them crack me up. Get a good reliable and accurate rifle, plenty of mags and train train train.





+1


A rifle such as the AR15 is pretty much rendered near useless with no/crappy/broken mags and of course no ammo.


An individual would be better off splitting that $1000 up amongst training, ammo, and magazines instead of blowing it all on one thing.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:40:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/18/2005 6:43:06 AM EDT by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By pyro6988:


I don't think $1000 is realistically enough for a training course when you figure in transportation, ammo, food, and lodging.








Basic Tactical Carbine at FIRE Institute


Cost: $325.00

case of 5.56mm ammo $200

3 nights in the Red Roof Inn: $180

Food - well you eat anyway, but we'll say $100

transportation: $100


COST of a Training: $905

VALUE: PRICELESS


share the hotel and transportation with a buddy, pack some food, buy wolf ammo or shoot reloads, and the price drops even more
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 6:43:25 AM EDT
Iwould get another A-R, because you never know what will happen to yours, i had a real nice20" RRA, let me tell ya, NEVER try to stand up and piss out of a canoe.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:00:23 AM EDT

Originally Posted By bigthicket:
Iwould get another A-R, because you never know what will happen to yours, i had a real nice20" RRA, let me tell ya, NEVER try to stand up and piss out of a canoe.



He says he's got 6 ARs.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:05:12 AM EDT
I've got a couple ARs and 30+ mags, so I'd opt for ammo and practice (although I want to build at least one more AR and can always use more mags).
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:15:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
What makes you dangerous is being well trained with your rifle. Guys who only collect guns and never shoot them crack me up. Get a good reliable and accurate rifle, plenty of mags and train train train.




3 trains? Hows he gonna drive all three at once? One good reliable train is really all one person needs to real dangerous
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:21:33 AM EDT
Not more AR15's. More firearms in general. I don't get owning a million AR15's when there are so many other firearms to be had.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:27:35 AM EDT
AR15 can easily be mission specific. I would prefer to have several. The shtf rifle and the prarie dogger are just to different to be readably interchangable. Likewise would like one or two (ok, really want 3, the prarie dogger is a hunting/target setup) set up for hunting.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 7:38:14 AM EDT
who's the three jokers that voted for Kerry ?

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 10:56:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:


I don't think $1000 is realistically enough for a training course when you figure in transportation, ammo, food, and lodging.








Basic Tactical Carbine at FIRE Institute


Cost: $325.00

case of 5.56mm ammo $200

3 nights in the Red Roof Inn: $180

Food - well you eat anyway, but we'll say $100

transportation: $100


COST of a Training: $905

VALUE: PRICELESS


share the hotel and transportation with a buddy, pack some food, buy wolf ammo or shoot reloads, and the price drops even more



How do you figure only $100 in transportation costs?

Some people don't have paid vacation days either which also further increase the cost, but I will say that you proved that it can be done for some people under $1000.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:00:26 AM EDT

more ammo and mags..

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:04:09 AM EDT
A new upper AND ammo.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:06:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By AssaultRifler:
who's the three jokers that voted for Kerry ?




Probably dead or banned users.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:09:01 AM EDT
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:36:32 AM EDT
Ammo and PRACTICE.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 11:41:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

How do you figure only $100 in transportation costs?

Some people don't have paid vacation days either which also further increase the cost, but I will say that you proved that it can be done for some people under $1000.





Forest and I just did a FIRE course for about $100 in gas. York to Pittsburgh.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 12:45:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

How do you figure only $100 in transportation costs?

Some people don't have paid vacation days either which also further increase the cost, but I will say that you proved that it can be done for some people under $1000.





Forest and I just did a FIRE course for about $100 in gas. York to Pittsburgh.



Dang, you must have been driving a vehicle that gets awful mileage.

Hmm...at least one of you is in York. I'd been thinking of getting some training, and FIRE isn't too bad of a drive (I live SW of York). I ought to look into that more closely. Now if I took my car, it'd cost me about 5 gallons of gas (206 miles from here) each way. $25 rountrip, excluding tolls on the Turnpike.

Link Posted: 8/18/2005 1:40:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By billclo:

Originally Posted By fight4yourrights:

Originally Posted By pyro6988:

How do you figure only $100 in transportation costs?

Some people don't have paid vacation days either which also further increase the cost, but I will say that you proved that it can be done for some people under $1000.





Forest and I just did a FIRE course for about $100 in gas. York to Pittsburgh.



Dang, you must have been driving a vehicle that gets awful mileage.

Hmm...at least one of you is in York. I'd been thinking of getting some training, and FIRE isn't too bad of a drive (I live SW of York). I ought to look into that more closely. Now if I took my car, it'd cost me about 5 gallons of gas (206 miles from here) each way. $25 rountrip, excluding tolls on the Turnpike.





Okay, I cheated. He came from Elkridge Maryland, picked me up, went to Pittsburgh, back, back to Elkridge.

Since he paid the gas, I'm not sure just what it cost. Figure 18 ~ 20 mpg for a Jeep Cherokee.

Now, if we are done nitpicking the details....... Like I said, you can do a good class for under $1000
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 1:46:15 PM EDT
Looks like all I need is some formal training.

Danny
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 1:48:49 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
What makes you dangerous is being well trained with your rifle. Guys who only collect guns and never shoot them crack me up. Get a good reliable and accurate rifle, plenty of mags and train train train.



+ 10 fucking million.......if you must stockpile - make it ammo and a good stash of field-tested 30rnd mags. Avoid Beta mags for everything but playtime........Betas are for serious Class III fun - they are not safe for SHTF scenarios.
Link Posted: 8/18/2005 1:52:18 PM EDT
Lots of AR-15's ammo and mags are useless if you have never had professional training.

Spend the $$ on that.
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