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Posted: 10/8/2004 10:05:03 AM EST
I have used the CCO on the M-16 and its just bitchin! The ranch doesn't seem that innacurate its just with those crappy flimsy sites is hard to shoot.

I was thinking of buying a good red dot, my mini is OK with a scope but honesly for that rifle I see no reason for magnification. Its basically going to be a self defense rifle 20-300 yards.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:07:59 AM EST
A red dot sticker that says for sale
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:09:56 AM EST
Just slap a 30 dollar Tasco or BSA red dot on it.
You might also want to revise your maximum range to a more realistic 150 yds.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:10:37 AM EST
You actually expect to hit something at 300 yards with a Mini 14?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:13:57 AM EST
I had a BSA 30 mm on mine for 2 years. It was a 39.99 gun show special. This year it finally gave up. For the use I would say it was worth it though.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:24:05 AM EST

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
You actually expect to hit something at 300 yards with a Mini 14?



I didn't specify what I wanted to hit, (barn door)
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:24:10 AM EST
Something along the lines of a 100-mil dot.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 10:25:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Rip_Roarin_Wacko:
Just slap a 30 dollar Tasco or BSA red dot on it.
You might also want to revise your maximum range to a more realistic 150 yds.

Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:32:10 PM EST
What would be a good red dot for the mini 14 ranch?
I have a silver Aimpoint 3000, bought used, on a stainless standard Mini. Looks good and works well.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:34:47 PM EST
tacpoint
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:35:26 PM EST
I am going to have to buy another Mini-14 simply to find out if you guys are right or not the one I had was great and I shot some sub MOA groups with it ,with reloads.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:35:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By Petruchio:
What would be a good red dot for the mini 14 ranch?
I have a silver Aimpoint 3000, bought used, on a stainless standard Mini. Looks good and works well.



well at least you have a quality optic, rifle, eh I'll just not go there.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:39:05 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:40:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By raf:
Any of you Mini-bashers make it up this way, bring an AR with roughly the same length barrel and as much money as you can scrape up. We'll go shooting.



hows about I bring out a SAR-3 AK clone in .223 and have a better looking .223 and spend even less money?
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:41:28 PM EST
When you ask a question about any other rifle than a "AR" on "AR15.com you're asking to be
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:43:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By raf:
Any of you Mini-bashers make it up this way, bring an AR with roughly the same length barrel and as much money as you can scrape up. We'll go shooting.




Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:44:18 PM EST

Originally Posted By Silver_Surfer:
When you ask a question about any other rifle than a "AR" on "AR15.com you're asking to be



nah, we like 1911's as well
and there are the few such as myself who enjoy glocks
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 1:47:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
You actually expect to hit something at 300 yards with a Mini 14?

let's go. 300yds, plains desert scrub. Me with my mini, you with a similarly-sighted AR. Do you REALLY think the differences are going to matter?

This mini-14 bashing based on sub-MOA accuracies that few other rifles deliver out-of the box, is no less bullshit than the incessant CA-bashing that goes on at all firearms boards. Fuck you all very much.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:31:15 PM EST
but Californie really does suck... jury still out on Mini-14s
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:35:29 PM EST

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
A red dot sticker that says for sale




OUCH!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:36:27 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mak762:

Originally Posted By PAEBR332:
You actually expect to hit something at 300 yards with a Mini 14?



I didn't specify what I wanted to hit, (barn door)



Perhaps you would like to revise that to another aspect of a barn.... say.... the BROADSIDE!
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 2:36:43 PM EST
Hakko Tacpoint. Cheap sight for a cheap gun.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 3:16:43 PM EST
Another vote for the BSA 30mm red dot. I put one on my (gasp) Colt preban 16" ltwt with one of those Leapers carry handle mounts. I have had it for 4-5 years. A month ago, I put the carry handle mount and scope on the rifle, and shot a 25m zero. Ten shots in a nickel sized group, and dead on target, even after a bunch of travel/storage and repeated removal and installation of the carry handle and scope. The mounting clamp on the BSA is a little chintzy and not quite square. That said, it works well, and I even like the sight picture better than the Aimpoint Comp M, with the BSA a two eyes open sight picture seems cleaner to me because the scope body is a lot smaller on the BSA in relation to the lens, than on the Comp M. Durability is most likely a whole different matter. I don't abuse my guns THAT bad.
Link Posted: 10/8/2004 6:10:06 PM EST
Anyone working in a convience store or motel would be a good bet....!!!
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 5:40:11 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 8:03:15 AM EST

Originally Posted By raf:
Any of you Mini-bashers make it up this way, bring an AR with roughly the same length barrel and as much money as you can scrape up. We'll go shooting.



Do I get to spend as much on my AR after purchase as you did on your Mini-14 to get it shooting accurate enough to issue such a challenge? There's a reason guys charge (and get) $800 to make a Mini-14 shoot 1 MOA.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 2:17:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/9/2004 2:26:57 PM EST by raf]
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 2:26:54 PM EST

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Petruchio:
What would be a good red dot for the mini 14 ranch?
I have a silver Aimpoint 3000, bought used, on a stainless standard Mini. Looks good and works well.



well at least you have a quality optic, rifle, eh I'll just not go there.



Good. Don't go there. I've had difficulties with certain ammos in all 3 of my ARs. With any of the same ammo, the Mini was like the energizer bunny, it just kept running. The Mini is not as accurate as the least accurate of the ARs but for my purposes it has been a valuable tool. Apparently we differ on the definition of quality. BTW, exactly how much "hands on" experience do you have with the Mini-14?
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 3:01:14 PM EST
Trijicon ACOG TA-31F.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 3:05:08 PM EST

Originally Posted By Petruchio:

Originally Posted By TheRedHorseman:

Originally Posted By Petruchio:
What would be a good red dot for the mini 14 ranch?
I have a silver Aimpoint 3000, bought used, on a stainless standard Mini. Looks good and works well.



well at least you have a quality optic, rifle, eh I'll just not go there.



Good. Don't go there. I've had difficulties with certain ammos in all 3 of my ARs. With any of the same ammo, the Mini was like the energizer bunny, it just kept running. The Mini is not as accurate as the least accurate of the ARs but for my purposes it has been a valuable tool. Apparently we differ on the definition of quality. BTW, exactly how much "hands on" experience do you have with the Mini-14?



two of my best friends have them, while they are good plinkers and I've never had a hiccup with ammo on my AR ever, the AR is more accurate, more reliable(due to crappy aftermarket mags on the 14's for certain) they are both AR owners now, for a reason methinks. I also find it sad that my 10/22(factory stock of 1980 vintage) outshoots their mini's at 75 yards.
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 3:17:59 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/9/2004 3:23:22 PM EST
the mini-14 is a piece of shit- end of story
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