Outrageous

COPTIC VISA-NIX SCANDAL

By NILES LATHEM Post Correspondent


December 26, 2005 -- WASHINGTON — The State Department has launched an investigation into whether hard-line Islamic employees at the U.S Embassy in Egypt are working behind the scenes to deny visas to Coptic Christians, The Post has learned.

State Department officials are closely examining 15 to 20 Egyptian employees of the embassy's consular section after top officials received complaints from lawyers and human-rights groups about discriminatory behavior toward the Copts seeking visas to the United States, sources said.

Hundreds, possibly thousands, may have been wrongly denied visas, sources said.

In a recent meeting organized by Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), top State Department officials were told that these employees, who conduct prescreening interviews and translations, appear to have unusual influence over a process that is supposed to be controlled by Americans.

"This is a widespread problem that we have been aware of for some time. Now, however, there are people stepping forward and are making formal complaints," said Father Keith Roderick, head of the Coalition for the Defense of Human Rights, who attended the meeting.

Among those making complaints to the State Department is a Christian man who was seeking to donate a kidney to an uncle in New Jersey.

He says he was twice told to remove the cross he was wearing if he wanted a visa. He refused and was denied a visa.

Another is a woman who was scheduled to speak at a recent human-rights conference in Washington about what it is like to live in a Muslim-dominated country.

She claimed embassy officials demanded to see her speech.

She and two other Egyptian Copts were denied a visa while Egyptian Muslims were granted visas.

They have asked that their names not be made public for fear of retaliation in Egypt.

There have also been complaints that these employees keep posters in the embassy promoting supporters of the Hamas terror group.

"This should be a concern because if they can influence who they can keep out of the United States, they could also influence who can get in," said Caroline Doss, a Jersey City immigration lawyer who presented State Department officials with affidavits from Coptic Christian clients.

Wolf, who heads a subcommittee that controls the State Department's budget, had no comment because he is conducting a separate probe.

State Department officials wouldn't comment.

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And here we've been told for many years that Egypt is the pinnacle of secular arabic society...

Quoted: And here we've been told for many years that Egypt is the pinnacle of secular arabic society...

Egypt's actually regressing, and likely to become a fundamentalist country.  But 60-70 years ago?  When the British ran it?  Very free and liberal country.

just to be clear....this isn't discrimination by the US State Department.

It's clearly unsanctioned discrimination by their employees.

Quoted: Quoted: And here we've been told for many years that Egypt is the pinnacle of secular arabic society... Egypt's actually regressing, and likely to become a fundamentalist country.  But 60-70 years ago?  When the British ran it?  Very free and liberal country.

And there you have it.  You are quite correct.  That's what is wrong with our attempt, no matter how noble and well-meaning, to spread democracy and eliminate colonialism (THERE, I said it).  There are many places, possibly most, in this world which can exist in some form of civilization only with a British officer over them.  It';s the simple truth.  No, it isn't "nice" but it is the way it is.

Gee lets sell them some MORE M1 Abrahms Tanks!

Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: And here we've been told for many years that Egypt is the pinnacle of secular arabic society... Egypt's actually regressing, and likely to become a fundamentalist country.  But 60-70 years ago?  When the British ran it?  Very free and liberal country. And there you have it.  You are quite correct.  That's what is wrong with our attempt, no matter how noble and well-meaning, to spread democracy and eliminate colonialism (THERE, I said it).  There are many places, possibly most, in this world which can exist in some form of civilization only with a British officer over them.  It';s the simple truth.  No, it isn't "nice" but it is the way it is.

Yeah - I was going to say - i don't know who has been sayign Egypt is all that - it is a police state as much as any otehr Arab nation; they just are much more discrete about it.