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Posted: 5/27/2002 10:32:12 AM EST
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I've counted about 30 of them in my basement. |
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How big is it? Is it actually shiny like in the pic? How many eyes does it have?
Jake |
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Jesus Christ! That's the deadly Brown Recluse! Run for your life!!!
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I agree. That appears to be a brown recluse spider. If you found 30 of them in your house you have a problem. Call an exterminator immediately.
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Too big for a brown recluse I think. That would make a good horror movie scene though. Go down into the basement and get mobbed by 30 brown recluse spiders. Then time lapse shot of the body rotting away.
It doesn't look that shiny in regular light. I think it's the camera flash makign it look that way here. # eyes don't know. Size, I'd guess about two inches+ diameter if you'd splay the legs out in a flat circle. |
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Quoted: It is not a recluse. There are two poisonous spiders in North America, the brown recluse and the black widow. Both are about the size of a quarter legs and all. Both have a distinctive abdominal marking, a violin on the recluse and a hourglass on the widow. That thing is killing bugs in your house for free, doesn't spread disease, and can't hurt you. View Quote Kill it anyways. Yuck! |
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To be on the safe side I would still call an exterminator is it just me or wan you see the fangs on this thing.
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In my house it would be a dead spider.
Try .22 shotshells, much cheaper than an exterminator. poikilotrm, I don't care how beneficial it may be, it must die. And black widows are a whole lot bigger than a quarter. Or at least they look bigger before I squish 'em. |
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Brown recluse? My God! If the picture is not hiding something such as a fuzzy body, 6 eyes in a semicircle, that type of thing, then its a common cellar spider (daddy long legs).
Run for your life or it'll heebie jeebie you to death! Jake [img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img] What does Daddy longlegs look like? The daddy-longlegs have a quite simple structure. Therefore they are classified in between the six eyed and the eight eyed spiders. The internal structure of the female sexual organ is identical to that of the six eyed spiders. The mating ritual of these spiders is also similar to that of the six eyed spiders. The spider can be easily recognized by a small mass of body and its extremely long legs. They have four pairs of legs. The first pair of legs is five and half times the length of its body. The legs do not have any prickles but have long stiff hairs. The knee segment is much darker than the rest of the legs. Their venomous fangs are very small, too small to penetrate the human skin and even while catching a prey they are not used. Two of the eight eyes are very small. At the place of the heart (at the top of the abdomen) there is a dark spot. The spider must, as all spiders do, renew its skin. |
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I'll be getting rid of them (if I were about 1 foot shorter they could stay, but I don't like getting the things on my face while walking around the basement) and wanted to make sure my method of getting rid of them wasn't going to get me in trouble. The method? Collect them all live in an opaque jar and send it to a friend as a joke. Need to make sure he isn't going to get bit with something nasty if I do that.
I have to wonder how that many spiders are finding a food supply down there though. I wonder what sort of critters will start popping up if I get rid of these. I've looked around the webs for dead bugs and the only things i've found were a few sucked dry flys. |
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We have lots of brown recluses or fiddle backs here in OK and they are usually smaller than that and appear sort of fuzzy not shiny and they always have a distinctive black fiddle shape on there backs. If they bite you the skin around it will turn real red and will die and rot away in a big circle around the bite and several layers deep. My brother got bit by one years ago and to this day is still freaked out about creepy crawlers of all types.
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Quoted: [img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img] View Quote That looks like it. So no danger with the joke. Good. |
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The brown recluse is commonly called the "fiddleback" spider because of the characteristic "fiddle" pattern on its midthorax portion: [img]http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/images/2061_2.jpg[/img] Source: [url=http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html]Ohio State University[/url] |
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Jeez,
Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] |
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Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote Think how many spiders will crawl all over you while you're in bed sleeping throughout your lifetime BAWAHAHAHAHAHA [X] |
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Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img] |
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Recluse Spider Populations;
The darkly shaded area of the map shows the distribution of the brown recluse spider (modified from the distribution map of Gertsch and Ennik, 1983). Additional limited populations may be found around the margins of the shaded area. The other 10 species of native recluse spiders are found in the striped area in the southwestern U.S. [img]http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num2/special/maps.gif[/img] The brown recluse spider, Loxosceles reclusa, is often implicated as a cause of necrotic skin lesions. Diagnoses are most commonly made by clinical appearance and infrequently is a spider seen, captured or identified at the time of the bite. The brown recluse lives in a circumscribed area of the U.S. (the south central Midwest) with a few less common recluse species living in the more sparsely-populated southwest U.S. In these areas, where spider populations may be dense, recluse spiders may be a cause of significant morbidity. However, outside the natural range of these recluse species, the conviction that they are the etiological agents behind necrotic lesions of unknown origin is widespread, and most often erroneous. In some states such as California, unsubstantiated reports concerning recluse spider bites have taken on the status of "urban legend" leading to overdiagnosis and, therefore, inappropriate treatment. Despite their reclusive habits, they do occasionally bite humans. Recluses typically bite when they are trapped between flesh and another surface, as when a sleeping human rolls over on a prowling spider, or when putting on clothing or shoes containing spiders. Ways to reduce bite risk from recluse spiders include: 1) keep beds away from walls; remove bed skirts and items under the bed so that the only pathway to the bed is up the legs. 2) Keep clothing off the floor; if it is on the floor, shake it vigorously before dressing. 3) Store all intermittantly used items such as gardening clothing, baseball mitts or roller skates in spider-proof boxes or bags. The common name "brown recluse" refers specifically to one species of spider that lives in the south central Midwest U.S. (Map). It may be found in less dense populations around the margins of the shaded area on the map. Many reports, both media and medical, forebodingly state that the brown recluse can be transported outside its range. Although this is true, it is then erroneously projected that one spider is the "tip of the iceberg" for rampant populations. In fact, verified finds of brown recluses outside of its range are rare and almost every collection is that of a single itinerant spider. Subsequent searching of the vicinity typically results in no additional recluses. The few known instances of any recluse spider population establishing in non-native habitats typically are limited to circumscribed areas, with only rare reports of expansion from its locale. |
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Dude! You should live in Arizona... We have every type nasty critter known to man... Daddy longlegs is harmless to anything bigger than a fly...
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I did read somewhere that hte Daddy-longlegs is the most poisonous spider on earth but that it's fangs are far too short to pierce human skin. Can anyone corroborate this or is it just one of them Urban Legend things?
And also, apparently the average person swallows 8 spiders during their lifetime while sleeping. Kind of makes you wonder when you wake up in the morning with that "something is crawling in the back of my throat" feeling don't it? Spiders just give me the heebie jeebies. |
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Quoted: I did read somewhere that hte Daddy-longlegs is the most poisonous spider on earth but that it's fangs are far too short to pierce human skin. Can anyone corroborate this or is it just one of them Urban Legend things? View Quote Absolutely a urban legend. Not only are they no more venemous than ordinary spiders, they aren't even a genuine spider. |
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[img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/pholcus_phalangoides.jpg[/img] What does Daddy longlegs look like? The daddy-longlegs have a quite simple structure. Therefore they are classified in between the six eyed and the eight eyed spiders. The internal structure of the female sexual organ is identical to that of the six eyed spiders. The mating ritual of these spiders is also similar to that of the six eyed spiders. The spider can be easily recognized by a small mass of body and its extremely long legs. They have four pairs of legs. The first pair of legs is five and half times the length of its body. The legs do not have any prickles but have long stiff hairs. The knee segment is much darker than the rest of the legs. Their venomous fangs are very small, too small to penetrate the human skin and even while catching a prey they are not used. Two of the eight eyes are very small. At the place of the heart (at the top of the abdomen) there is a dark spot. The spider must, as all spiders do, renew its skin. [/quote] [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake |
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Or would you be calling this a daddy long legs?
[img]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Opiliones/Leiobunum_rotundum_D0094.jpg[/img] [b] Harvestman Opiliones These are not real spiders, but resembles the spiders very much because they also have eight legs. They belong to the class Arachnida like the spiders, ticks and mites, scorpions and pseudoscorpiones. 3500 known species are known. 27 are found in NW-Europe. This order can be divided in three families: Nemastomatidae, Phalangiidae and Trogulidae. Harvestmen have an oval shaped body. The front and back of the body is grown together in contrast to spiders where the front and back end and separated by a stalk (pedicel). They have two eyes in the middle of their head looking sideways. They are also known as "harvestmen". Most of the harvestmen have long legs, but not all. They should not be confused with the "daddy longleg" The Opiliones do not possess poison glands but has instead glands that produce a stinky odor. They also have no silk glands or spinners. Harvestmen eat everything (omnivorous). They catch small insects or eat the decays of any dead animal, bird dung and other facial material, all kind of plant material and fungi. She normally is active during the night. Copulation is, in contrast to the spiders directly, directly with a penis. There is no foreplay and the copulation is no longer than a few minutes and may be repeated several times.[/b] |
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Quoted: [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake View Quote [url]http://www.snopes2.com/critters/wild/longlegs.htm[/url] The daddy longlegs isn't technically a spider, but even if it were, it wouldn't be the world's most venomous one of those, either. The daddy longlegs isn't "poisonous" (or venomous) at all. In fact, it doesn't even bite and poses absolutely no threat to human beings (other than sometimes emitting a foul smell). |
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Quoted: Quoted: [b][green]How is this not a real spider???[/b] [/green] Jake View Quote [url]http://www.snopes2.com/critters/wild/longlegs.htm[/url] The daddy longlegs isn't technically a spider, but even if it were, it wouldn't be the world's most venomous one of those, either. The daddy longlegs isn't "poisonous" (or venomous) at all. In fact, it doesn't even bite and poses absolutely no threat to human beings (other than sometimes emitting a foul smell). View Quote SteyerAUG, Look at my post sir the arachnid you classify as a daddy long legs is actually a harvester an entirely different animal. refer to these links: [url]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Pholcidae/Pholcidae.htm[/url]<--Daddy Long Legs [url]http://www.xs4all.nl/~ednieuw/Spiders/Opiliones/Opiliones.htm[/url]<--Harvestmen God I'm bored today! Jake |
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We have tons of those Daddy long legs in the crapper and here in So Cal we have quite a large ant problem. So while I was sitting on my porcelain throne I watched an ant walk into the web of a daddy long leg and watch that spider go to work ... WOW!!!
Now if a Daddy Long Leg is not a spider: Why does it look like one? Why does it have eight legs like one? Why does it spin a web like one? If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck ... guess what. |
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GSG9, you got your critters id'ed right. But I grew up calling your Harvestman "daddy-long-legs" or sometimes "grand-daddy-long-legs."
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I have the solution to your problem.
Grab AR, point at spider, fire until mag is empty. Repeat one more time. I'm with whoever said it before. I HATE spiders. little bastards should be dispatched immediately to hell whenever discovered. TERMINATE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Mike |
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The call the brown recluse spider that, because it's brown (duh) but also because you don't usually see them out in the open. I've read that most people get bitten by them when they're picking up firewood, lumber, or boxes up out of dark basements or sheds.
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Quoted: Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img] View Quote DUDE!!! UGH!!! Thanks for reminding me of those ugly bastards! I remember when they used to come out when it was really humid in the summertime in NY. I HATED THEM WITH A PASSION!!! You are lying in bed and see one of those crawling on the wall... forget it..cant go back to sleep... |
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Quoted: I have the solution to your problem. Grab AR, point at spider, fire until mag is empty. Repeat one more time. I'm with whoever said it before. I HATE spiders. little bastards should be dispatched immediately to hell whenever discovered. TERMINATE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Mike View Quote I'm going to suck all of them up with a shop vac. I'd probably catch a little flak if the .223 penetrated into the neighbors house. I might let the biggest one stick around so that I can get my jollies by catching insects and tossing them into its web. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img] View Quote DUDE!!! UGH!!! Thanks for reminding me of those ugly bastards! I remember when they used to come out when it was really humid in the summertime in NY. I HATED THEM WITH A PASSION!!! You are lying in bed and see one of those crawling on the wall... forget it..cant go back to sleep... View Quote If I see one in my bedroom I'm awake until it's dead. Otherwise I'll have to fight through the images of it crawling into my nostril before I can get back to sleep. |
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Pussies.. Burn a couple of their legs off with a bic lighter and toss 'em into a cellar spiders web. Thats entertainment.
Edit: Durr, T kant speel.. |
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Can't sleep..... they're all out to get me!!!!
[img]http://snspkz.lorton.com/images/salpuga2.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.allstarreview.com/spiders.JPG[/img] [img]http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/arthropoda/arachnida/spiders.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.redamedia.com/sponge/pics/spiders.jpg[/img] And the worst of them all..... The dreaded Cooty! [img]http://www.starstogether.tierranet.com/forever/humor01cooties.gif[/img] |
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Quoted: [ [img]http://www.allstarreview.com/spiders.JPG[/img] View Quote Beautifull!!! He looks kinda pissed off though.. -T. Jumping spiders are cool!!! |
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If we're gonna start posting heebie jeebie pictures . . .
[img]http://a201.g.akamaitech.net/7/201/622/10003436865965/abcnews.go.com/media/Politics/images/rt_janet_reno_010904_nv.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.who.int/infwha52/images/journal/hillary.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9709/06/teresa.mourning/link.clinton.jpg[/img] p.s. sorry for doing that on Memorial Day |
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Quoted: There is no foreplay and the copulation is no longer than a few minutes and may be repeated several times. View Quote Hey, that sounds like several members of this site! [:D] |
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Quoted: Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img] View Quote I absolutely could not agree with you, more. |
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If they have webs and a seperate abdomen, they are daddy long legs. If their body is one "unit" they are harvesters.
Whether they are daddy long legs or harvesters, I would leave them be. They eat other bugs and are harmless. |
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I like posting this pic. [:D]
[img]www.ferret50.com/graphics/ferret50_promo_pics/spider1.jpg[/img] |
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I'll see if I can catch something substantial and toss it in the web of one of them, then get some pictures of the feed.
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Quoted: But I grew up calling your Harvestman "daddy-long-legs" or sometimes "grand-daddy-long-legs." View Quote You're not the only one. Everybody I know calls the "Harvestman" a "Daddy Long Legs". I didn't know there was anything different until this post. |
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Post from DarkHelmet -
And the worst of them all..... The dreaded Cooty! View Quote [img]http://www.starstogether.tierranet.com/forever/humor01cooties.gif[/img] That's '[u]Mr.[/u] Cooty' to you! [:D] Eric The(Child-like)Hun[>]:)] |
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Back in the 70's I lived in a rented trailer on the edge of the woods in Hot Springs, Ark. I was bit by the Brown Recluse 5-6 different times while living there. Each time the area swelled up really bad and after some time started putting a white stringy looking stuff. Pretty gross! Each time I was bit, the effects seemed less, I don't know if you build up a kind of immunity or not.
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Quoted: Quoted: Jeez, Just looking at all those spider pics is making my skin crawl. I am doing a pretty good job at resisting the urge to shoot at my monitor, though. Snakes, mice, rats, other insects, etc don't bother me one bit, but spiders really creep me out. [shock] View Quote The spiders don't get to me as much as centipedes do. Those thing creep the hell out of me. [img]http://www.snhpc.com/bugs/centipede.jpg[/img] View Quote I can recall reading that the Marines on Tarawa had to deal with centipedes that were 3 fingers thick and a foot long. Now, don't go dreaming about that tonight. [;)] |
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All I can say to that is God bless North Dakota's weather. The worst things I've run into there are mosquitos, ticks, poison ivy, rattlesnakes, and black widows (in that order of frequency).
Here's the biggest one to be found in north america (according to the site containing the picture). The site says they can get 12 inches long and eat small mammals. [img]http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/USInsects/Sheros.JPG[/img] |
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Riddle me this Batman: Someone once told me that those centipedes are poisonous. If so, do they bite and inject poison or is it like a scorpion... from the tail end?
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Quoted: Riddle me this Batman: Someone once told me that those centipedes are poisonous. If so, do they bite and inject poison or is it like a scorpion... from the tail end? View Quote They bite. [url]http://www.earthlife.net/insects/chilopod.html[/url] The legs on the first body segment are modified into venom bearing fangs that the Centipedes use to hunt their food. View Quote |
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I'd love to see a 12" centipede attack and eat a small kitten.
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