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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:14:45 PM EDT
Is this a new .mil vehicle? looks like a modern jeep. Much smaller than a humvee.
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:16:11 PM EDT
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New little recon vehicle for the Marines. Airportable and all that.
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:24:04 PM EDT
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New little recon vehicle for the Marines. Airportable and all that. makes sense it was on I-5 heading toward Pendleton. Is there a name on this? who makes it? |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:24:11 PM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep.
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:26:20 PM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. looks very useful especially if it can be lifted on an MV-22, but for 100K its a bit pricy |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:26:59 PM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Negative. Its called the ITV (Internally Transported Vehicle). ITV |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:28:05 PM EDT
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Do want.
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:32:00 PM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Negative. Its called the ITV (Internally Transported Vehicle). ITV It may be an ITV but it looks suspiciously like its made by Growler. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:35:37 PM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored?
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:39:30 PM EDT
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I could have some fun with one of those.
Details please. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:39:36 PM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? That's the first thing I thought. Is that soccer mom approved? |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:42:54 PM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? This. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:44:15 PM EDT
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..100K a copy... 
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:45:06 PM EDT
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I could have some fun with one of those. Details please. When they first started the v-22 Osprey, the jeep was still in service. For over a decade while the Osprey was in development, no one noticed that the jeep was gone and that a humvee wouldn't fit inside. So, now the Marines need a new $100,000 vehicle to replace the $2000 jeep for fast mobile deployments. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:45:13 PM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Negative. Its called the ITV (Internally Transported Vehicle). ITV It may be an ITV but it looks suspiciously like its made by Growler. Well there is a slight resemblance. But Growler is a lot smaller. Not too much info on them. Just a bunch of left-over M-151 parts. |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:47:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Sounds about right. $30K to build it. $50K to the reelection funds of the politicians who urged it be bought, $20K profit. What's not to love? |
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Posted: 5/8/2013 9:59:00 PM EDT
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I could have some fun with one of those. Details please. When they first started the v-22 Osprey, the jeep was still in service. For over a decade while the Osprey was in development, no one noticed that the jeep was gone and that a humvee wouldn't fit inside. So, now the Marines need a new $100,000 vehicle to replace the $2000 jeep for fast mobile deployments. So I won't see any at a surplus sale for $387 anytime soon ? Bummer, crushed an impulsive dream. Thanks. 
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Posted: 5/8/2013 10:10:11 PM EDT
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Reminds me of the stripped down M151s the Rangers used to drive back during the Grenada Invasion...
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Posted: 5/9/2013 4:20:12 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? As soon as they're used to perform missions outside of their intended purpose. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 4:22:29 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the stripped down M151s the Rangers used to drive back during the Grenada Invasion... http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/Gun_JeepRangersGrenada.jpg "You shot my frickin' ruck, you asshole!" |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 4:23:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Not what comes to mind when I picture a growler. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 5:35:52 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? This. Immediately after the Left figure out how to demonize the Right for sending them to war, nekkid. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 5:58:15 AM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. According to wikipedia, they run $200,000 for a scout version up to $1m for a mortar version with a trailer.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:31:25 AM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. According to wikipedia, they run $200,000 for a scout version up to $1m for a mortar version with a trailer. That's what I saw.
The M1161 Growler is an Internally Transportable-Light Strike Vehicle (ITV-LSV) designed specifically for use with the V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft.
So the ITV is just a growler variant? |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:33:58 AM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. According to wikipedia, they run $200,000 for a scout version up to $1m for a mortar version with a trailer. Holy shit. 
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:36:01 AM EDT
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I just wish the windows would stay put when ramping sweet jumps in BF3.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:42:01 AM EDT
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Shit, I should finish my Willy's restoration and sell it to the military...................................
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:44:09 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? this... one ied and the libetards will demand to know whay eversingle vehicle in the military is not nuke proof |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:45:58 AM EDT
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...oh, one of those...they call them "Jeeps"
oh, wait...its not a jeep...its exactly the same thing with doors for 30x the cost.... |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:51:47 AM EDT
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Quoted: Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Yup. Basically a "product improved" M151 1/4 ton truck. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:57:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: One of the most succinct, accurate, and informative answers I've read here in a while.Quoted: How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? As soon as they're used to perform missions outside of their intended purpose. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 6:58:14 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the stripped down M151s the Rangers used to drive back during the Grenada Invasion... http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/Gun_JeepRangersGrenada.jpg Swap the gun on the pedestal for a .50 cal and its starting to look like Popski's Private Army in North Africa and Italy seventy years ago. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:01:40 AM EDT
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Negative. Its called the ITV (Internally Transported Vehicle). ITV It may be an ITV but it looks suspiciously like its made by Growler. I took a Growler this morning...... 
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:03:58 AM EDT
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One of the most succinct, accurate, and informative answers I've read here in a while....
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? As soon as they're used to perform missions outside of their intended purpose. ...But one that won't see the light of day until the Left Press lets it. When will they let it?--when it serves them. When will it serve them?--when they want it to. When will they want it to?--when they need to slam the Right. When will they slam the Right with this issue? Quoted:
Immediately after the Left figure out how to demonize the Right for sending them to war, nekkid [without armor]. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:05:32 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? Already are! 
Though technically operational, neither variant has seen combat deployment due to concerns of survivability and serviceability.
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. Negative. Its called the ITV (Internally Transported Vehicle). ITV It may be an ITV but it looks suspiciously like its made by Growler. Well there is a slight resemblance. But Growler is a lot smaller. Not too much info on them. Just a bunch of left-over M-151 parts. You're both mostly correct lol The vehicle from the OP is a Growler ITV-LSV (Iternally Transportable - Light Strike Vehicle. It's like you arguing over M2A1 versus Bradley, same vehicle, different designations lol Quoted:
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Its called the American Growler. US Marines are paying 100K a copy for the retooled jeep. According to wikipedia, they run $200,000 for a scout version up to $1m for a mortar version with a trailer. From Wikipedia: The initial contract for the ITV system was awarded to American Growler in 2004. By 2008, unit cost had risen by 120%, leaving each Growler scout variant with a cost of $209,000 per unit. The Prime Mover mortar contract price rose by 86%, to $1,078,000 cost per unit. The first Growlers were deployed to Marine units in January 2009 for field testing, one year beyond the contracted delivery date. By August 2011, 209 M1161s and 102 M1163s had been produced, with 42 additional M1163s on order.
So they were a year late on a 4 year contract and about double the cost of what was proposed, typical
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:05:55 AM EDT
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Probably make a lot more sense to just buy a Toyota Tacoma.I think those go for 30K.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:08:25 AM EDT
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Do want. This. That's a pretty slick little vehicle. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:12:11 AM EDT
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Probably make a lot more sense to just buy a Toyota Tacoma.I think those go for 30K. Not to mention Toyotas have seen far more combat... |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:19:59 AM EDT
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Probably make a lot more sense to just buy a Toyota Tacoma.I think those go for 30K. Or even a Jeep designed for military use Link 
Heck, the Border Patrol has been using Jeep Wranglers for a while now- very easy and comparatively cheap to buy a few aftermarket goodies and turn a Rubicon into a very capable vehicle. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:26:21 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? According to wiki, they have yet to see operational service. One of the reasons is worries about survivability. So, yeah, figure on it being uparmored at some point. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:29:12 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? As soon as they're used to perform missions outside of their intended purpose. The Growler is slated to be replaced by the CJF-35AWD in FY2016 cost is estimated to be "slightly higher" |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:48:14 AM EDT
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The DoD loves to spend tons of money on things, the Marines were using Mercedes G-Wagons before this latest vehicle!
They called it the IFAV, or Interim Fast Attack Vehicle. It was simply the mil version of the Mercedes 290 GDT: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interim_Fast_Attack_Vehicle And the company has closed it's production facility: http://www.thepilot.com/news/2012/sep/16/american-growler-closing-robbins-plant/ |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 7:58:53 AM EDT
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Looks like fun!!!
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Posted: 5/9/2013 8:04:17 AM EDT
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I want one.
But not for more than $5k. I'm cheap.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 8:12:51 AM EDT
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Probably make a lot more sense to just buy a Toyota Tacoma.I think those go for 30K. Not to mention Toyotas have seen far more combat... Yeah, but they are not made with expensive, unique, one-off parts that are made in certain politicians districts. |
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Posted: 5/9/2013 8:30:29 AM EDT
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How long before there is a cry for them to be uparmored? According to wiki, they have yet to see operational service. One of the reasons is worries about survivability. So, yeah, figure on it being uparmored at some point. sweet now they get paid to re-engineer it.
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Posted: 5/9/2013 11:43:30 AM EDT
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Reminds me of the stripped down M151s the Rangers used to drive back during the Grenada Invasion... http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/Gun_JeepRangersGrenada.jpg When I was at Pendelton 1993-4 we built similar jeeps for the Recon Marines. We just welded on an ass-load of ammo and fuel storage tie-downs. All over the fenders and stuff. |
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