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Posted: 5/22/2005 4:54:26 PM EDT
My dad is considering buying a new vehicle for my mom to replace the 2000 Blazer.
They want it to have 4WD, and can't be Chrysler or Ford product. What say ARFCOM? |
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4WD: Toyota 4Runner Toyota Land Cruiser Nissan Pathfinder AWD: Acura MDX Toyota Highlander Lexus RX330 |
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ETA-Unknown-but my parents are already considering Trailblazer, so maybe around that price. |
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Tahoe-too big. |
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tahoe to big. well than your not talking midsize your talking yuppy size/ |
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Is it oing to go offroad or pretty much be a mall-rat?
(I expect exceptional incentives to continue through the summer on SUV's) |
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Off road very little, if at all. |
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My mother just bought a Chev Equinox friday, its a really nice midsize suv. I think you can get one with all wheel drive. |
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Yeah-we were thinking of it. Anyone hear anything good about the Mitsubishi Endeavor or Honda Pilot? |
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Pretty nice vehiculars...... Nissan Murano Volkswagon Touareg Volvo XC90 |
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I wouldnt touch Mitsubishi motors if they were last vehicles on Earth. Having $10billion in debt doesnt help either. Honda Pilot....eh, :thumbdown: Equinox? ugly ass piece of shit, I would take an Exploder before one of them. |
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Any of the GM models should be fine. Why no Fords?
What will be important is how easy it is for your mom to get in & out of it, and visibility. I will make no bones about it, I am solidly in favor of purchasing vehicles from the Big 3 (particularly GM or Ford) rather than US-assembled foreign cars, but it will really come down to what she feels best driving. The Tahoe might be a bit big for her (and unless she is hauling a LOT of groceries, overkill), the TrailBlazer/Envoy have a good motor and have been out a few years so the teething bugs should be pretty much gone. An Explorer or Jeep would also be a good choice. The Japanese SUV's (particularly Toyota) will hold their resale better, but you will pay a premium up front for that. Nissan is owned by the French, so no more needs to be said about that. BMW is way overpriced for a grocery-getter. |
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If I was gonna spend the cash for a Touraeg or an XC90 I'd buy a Tahoe. I would reccomend the Murano if it didn't look like ass. |
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A brand new Touareg is $33k... You can find a year or two old one for $25k..... The XC90, $38k brand new... |
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The Honda Pilot is AWD, but it is an absolutely STELLAR vehicle. We own an Acura MDX, the luxo-Pilot, and it is a very very nice vehicle. The Pilot offers excellent features, excellent powertrain, excellent power, excellent value, excellent reliability, top crash ratings...... I would easliy rank it among the top three in primaryily road going SUV's. It could probably do pretty well on loose gravel/dirt off-road excursions, but I don't think it is stout enough to handle Rubicon or Baja type excursions. |
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My family is a GM family-we have had too many probs with Fords. It is important for her to get in and out easy- It will pretty much be the stuff hauler/grocery getter. |
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Honda Pilot. |
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Are there amy particular issues with the Endeavor? My BIL has had good luck so far with his 03 Galant. |
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I went Isuzu Axiom over Trail Blazer in 2003.
Very happy with my choice. It likes the snow and to me the ABS feels better than the TB. |
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Nearly every Mitsu model, EXCEPT the Lancer Evolutions has major issues at some point. I think they rank in the very bottom in reliability ratings -- which is why they offer such great warranties. Seriously. |
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Exactly. |
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The Isuzu lineup for 2005 is down to the Ascender-rebadger Envoy/TB. |
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My next door neighbor has an Isuzu that required a motor replacement after a few years, Isuzu fought honoring the warranty tooth & nail, and finally settled paying for labor, leaving my neighbor several thousand dollars in the hole.
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I know this is a violation of the "rules"-but how do those that have Explorers like 'em?
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I really like my Trailblazer. I get around 20 mpg on the highway and 15 in the city. The seats are comfy, not the super narrow buckets they like to put in cars these days. It has a lot of neat little features, like dual heat/AC controls, auto volume on the stereo, and a total of four cigarette lighter power plugs including one in the cargo area. The transfer case has settings for 2wd, all wheel drive, 4HI and 4LO. All that is standard.
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A good friend of mine is on Explorer #3, he sold #1 for a fair amount...about $3000 for a '92. He gave #2 to his dad. He is driving #3 now, a 2004..... He test drove EVERYTHING that competes with it and STILL decided on the Explorer. Though he LOVED the Pilot and the XC90. |
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I have an Infinity QX4 and I love it. It has AWD, which I really like. Check into it. It's not a bad SUV, and I haven't had any problems with it.
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You mean, any personal issues? Then no. Like I said, I wont even touch a Mitsu, I will barely even look at them. They are all ugly, and I dont think they are that great of cars. As well as being $10bln in debt, cant help their situation. |
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It's the upscale Nissan Pathfinder. It is a top quality SUV, but lots of folks have problems with the Renault connection {French}...... |
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Yeah, but you can find some killer deals on '04 Rodeos and Axioms. Saw a fully loaded Rodeo for 18,000 at the local Isuzu stealership. Asender is a good deal since it is basically a Trail Blazer for much less and a better warranty. |
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Bet it was a oil issue. If he let the oil get to low and the motor seezed, they wouldn't do the warranty work. |
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I know a lot of people consider the Pontiac Aztek to be the fugliest SUV/thing on earth, does anyone have one and like it?
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I have an '02. The truck had some teething problems initially, but the dealer took care of everything eventually. I'd give it a "C" overall. |
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What was wrong? Did it have problems with its gums? seriously...was it the early build/hopefully it would be worked out by now stuff? |
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Let's see... The sway bar bushings went out early, maybe at 8,000 miles. They made an obnoxious squeaking noise that required them to be replaced. Trip to dealer #1. A 5" piece of body molding under the liftglass cracked in half in the extreme cold and required replacement. Trip to dealer #2. The 4X4 electronic control module went out last year right before several bad snowstorms. I had no 4WD when I needed it most. Trip to dealer #3. Automatic transmission required adjustment of some kind as there was substantial hesitation when shifting from park to drive. Combined with trip #3 to dealer. I'm waiting for the next problem to happen. I should have learned about Ford products with my 1988 Mustang. Now that was a nightmare. |
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On paper the Explorer looks good...but after 3 Ford vehicles('85 Tempo, '81 Fairmont, and '94 Aerostar) I'm not too sure. |
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The new Toyota 4Runner is awsome, get the V8 w/ AWD. I love mine... If he drives it like he stole it, tell him to get the optional X-reas suspension... HOLY SHIT, you'll stick to the road.
Ultra reliable too and handles like a knife. |
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I have an 04 Jeep Liberty that I love. Have slightly over 19,000 and have not had a problem yet. My wife likes mine so much she got an 05. Nice comfortable seats, good cargo room, ballsy V-6.
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Honda Element.
Function over form, but not for those that require "approval" from peers. Dare to be different |
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4-RUNNER...
You just get in and go... Repeat for a couple hundred thousand miles... Nothing more to say.. |
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Compact: Jeep Liberty or honda Pilot
Small: Toyota 4Runner or Jeep Grand Cherokee Mid sized: Chevy Tahoe or Toyota Seqoia Chevy Suburban if you want full sized. H2 if you're a yuppie. |
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I have a 93 Explorer and it has been trouble free. Automatic transmission and 4.0 motor. Well built 4X4. Hell of a good hunting machine. 20mpg on the highway. |
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I concur. FWIW, I haven't heard much good about the Trailblazer/Envoy. |
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