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Posted: 11/2/2015 3:26:06 PM EDT
Excellent analysis of the polling of Palestinians:

http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/

Lasting peace is not on the table anytime soon.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:27:13 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:33:06 PM EDT
Radiation sickness
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:33:26 PM EDT
They want any and every freebie they can get.
Unlimited funds, free land, anyone's they want.
Then whatever else they want whenever they want it.

Sound like anyone else we know ?
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:34:50 PM EDT
To kill Jews, the end.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:35:16 PM EDT
The destruction of Israel...Duh.
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Pretty much this....
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:36:13 PM EDT
They want the Jews to go back to Europe.



See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.




Sounds familiar.





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They want the Jews to go back to Europe.



See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.





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What you talking about Willis!



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:41:28 PM EDT
They want someone to pay them to kill Jews.

At least most of our FSA is content with being paid to do nothing.  
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They want the Jews to go back to Europe.

See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.


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Lulz.

Txl
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:44:10 PM EDT
Palestinians are the bottom of the barrel from Jordan, Syria and the other arab states.  
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:44:26 PM EDT
This confirms what I have been saying for 20+ years. Kill all the Jews and no matter what policy changes Israel makes they will continue to be violent.
Savages
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:46:05 PM EDT
They want to eradicate the Jew from the Jew's rightful land. They constantly further the "Palestinian" cause by pure lies and deceit.

Why do I say it this way? Because it is 100% red-pill, true reality.

Here's something to consider: Name one "Palestinian" king, ruler, or tribe that existed 2,000 years ago, or 1,000 years ago (in that parcel or real estate). Or 500 years ago. There never was one - ever. The modern "Palestinian" is made up out of whole cloth.

Now, name at least one Hebrew king, ruler, or tribe from the same period in the same parcel of real estate. There will be a stark contrast.

You will come up with dozens. You can come up with numerous graves, stone markers, written records, remains of walls and towns, and assorted misc items dating back thousands of years that absolutely establish that the Jew has constantly had a presence in that land well before any "Palestinian" could make a claim to it.

A thorough, scholarly, factual and very clear book on this subject is From Time Immemorial by Peters. It tells the truth about the whole "Palestinian" scam that came about in the 20th century, as well as the true history of the land and it's people (the Jews).
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:46:47 PM EDT
In before the pali apologists
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:50:00 PM EDT
Jimmy Carter said Palestine is a peaceful nation . I think he is a moron. They want to kill Jews nothing more . The old map I saw in an article about Palestine showed the original area about where Jordan is .
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That's what they need, not want
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgjfi1DU1mQ

What do you want from life
To kidnap an heiress
or threaten her with a knife
What do you want from life
To get cable TV
and watch it every night

There you sit
a lump in your chair
Where do you sleep
and what do you wear
when you're sleeping

What do you want from life
An Indian guru
to show you the inner light
What do you want from life
a meaningless love affair
with a girl that you met tonight

How can you tell when you're doin' alright
Does your bank account swell
While you're dreaming at night
How do know when you're really in love
Do violins play when you're touching the one
That you're loving

What do you want from life
Someone to love
and somebody that you can trust
What do you want from life
To try and be happy
while you do the nasty things you must

Well, you can't have that, but if you're an American citizen you are entitled to:
a heated kidney shaped pool,
a microwave oven--don't watch the food cook,
a Dyna-Gym--I'll personally demonstrate it in the privacy of your own home,
a king-size Titanic unsinkable Molly Brown waterbed with polybendum,
a foolproof plan and an airtight alibi,
real simulated Indian jewelry,
a Gucci shoetree,
a year's supply of antibiotics,
a personally autographed picture of Randy Mantooth
and Bob Dylan's new unlisted phone number,
a beautifully restored 3rd Reich swizzle stick,
Rosemary's baby,
a dream date in kneepads with Paul Williams,
a new Matador, a new mastodon,
a Maverick, a Mustang, a Montego,
a Merc Montclair, a Mark IV, a meteor,
a Mercedes, an MG, or a Malibu,
a Mort Moriarty, a Maserati, a Mac truck,
a Mazda, a new Monza, or a moped,
a Winnebago--Hell, a herd of Winnebago's we're giving 'em away,
or how about a McCulloch chainsaw,
a Las Vegas wedding,
a Mexican divorce,
a solid gold Kama Sutra coffee pot,
or a baby's arm holding an apple?
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:53:21 PM EDT
The transjordanian beduins left because they were told in advance that jordan, egypt, syria would drive the jews  into the sea, then they could come back.
they failed. Four times. The " palestinians" want not to live with their mistakes and consequences...
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They want to eradicate the Jew from the Jew's rightful land. They constantly further the "Palestinian" cause by pure lies and deceit.



Why do I say it this way? Because it is 100% red-pill, true reality.



Here's something to consider: Name one "Palestinian" king, ruler, or tribe that existed 2,000 years ago, or 1,000 years ago (in that parcel or real estate). Or 500 years ago. There never was one - ever. The modern "Palestinian" is made up out of whole cloth.



Now, name at least one Hebrew king, ruler, or tribe from the same period in the same parcel of real estate. There will be a stark contrast.



You will come up with dozens. You can come up with numerous graves, stone markers, written records, remains of walls and towns, and assorted misc items dating back thousands of years that absolutely establish that the Jew has constantly had a presence in that land well before any "Palestinian" could make a claim to it.



A thorough, scholarly, factual and very clear book on this subject is From Time Immemorial by Peters. It tells the truth about the whole "Palestinian" scam that came about in the 20th century, as well as the true history of the land and it's people (the Jews).
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It was the Romans, specifically Hadrian, who destroyed Jerusalem in the year 70 and the region was renamed Syria Palestina..



 
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The transjordanian beduins left because they were told in advance that jordan, egypt, syria would drive the jews  into the sea, then they could come back.

they failed. Four times. The " palestinians" want not to live with their mistakes and consequences...
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They left because there was no commerce after the fall of Jerusalem in 70.  



 
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 3:56:24 PM EDT
After reading the article they sound like the millions of shitstains who can't bother to read Snopes or one of the other "truth" website out there.
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They want to eradicate the Jew from the Jew's rightful land. They constantly further the "Palestinian" cause by pure lies and deceit.

Why do I say it this way? Because it is 100% red-pill, true reality.

Here's something to consider: Name one "Palestinian" king, ruler, or tribe that existed 2,000 years ago, or 1,000 years ago (in that parcel or real estate). Or 500 years ago. There never was one - ever. The modern "Palestinian" is made up out of whole cloth.

Now, name at least one Hebrew king, ruler, or tribe from the same period in the same parcel of real estate. There will be a stark contrast.

You will come up with dozens. You can come up with numerous graves, stone markers, written records, remains of walls and towns, and assorted misc items dating back thousands of years that absolutely establish that the Jew has constantly had a presence in that land well before any "Palestinian" could make a claim to it.

A thorough, scholarly, factual and very clear book on this subject is From Time Immemorial by Peters. It tells the truth about the whole "Palestinian" scam that came about in the 20th century, as well as the true history of the land and it's people (the Jews).
It was the Romans, specifically Hadrian, who destroyed Jerusalem in the year 70 and the region was renamed Syria Palestina..
 


Yes, 70 AD saw the destruction of the Jewish temple, killing of a million Jews, and thus began the spread of the remaining Jews throughout the world. (And yes Palestina was the name given to the area by the Romans.)

My point is that it really is historically the JEWISH homeland. Additionally, there has been a (smaller) Jewish presence in the area even since 70 AD. So, the claims that in 1948 the Jews somehow came in and took what wasn't theirs is misleading.

The modern-day so-called "Palestinians" have less right to the land than do the historical owners.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 4:00:47 PM EDT
They want what most "normal" people want - comfortingly boring uneventful daily routines, consumer goods, nice houses, modern conveniences, a government of their choosing.

However they believe the way to secure those things is by eradicating Jews / the nation of Israel (they don't make a distinction between the two).  There's a well substantiated body of evidence showing that insanity is deeply baked into their social consciousness from decades of propaganda and brainwashing.  Convincing them of another path is basically impossible at this point.

Ergo, the Palestinians are violent irrational actors and their demands and intentions cannot be realistically accommodated by rational actors.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 4:02:13 PM EDT
In before The Concern Troll.
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I assume they want to live in Germany or Sweden, just like everyone else in the middle east.  





... oh, and kill Jews, of course.  
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The Great Muslim Diaspora..only instead of Hadrian, it was ISIS.



 
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Yes, 70 AD saw the destruction of the Jewish temple, killing of a million Jews, and thus began the spread of the remaining Jews throughout the world. (And yes Palestina was the name given to the area by the Romans.)





My point is that it really is historically the JEWISH homeland. Additionally, there has been a (smaller) Jewish presence in the area even since 70 AD. So, the claims that in 1948 the Jews somehow came in and took what wasn't theirs is misleading.





The modern-day so-called "Palestinians" have less right to the land than do the historical owners.
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They want to eradicate the Jew from the Jew's rightful land. They constantly further the "Palestinian" cause by pure lies and deceit.





Why do I say it this way? Because it is 100% red-pill, true reality.





Here's something to consider: Name one "Palestinian" king, ruler, or tribe that existed 2,000 years ago, or 1,000 years ago (in that parcel or real estate). Or 500 years ago. There never was one - ever. The modern "Palestinian" is made up out of whole cloth.





Now, name at least one Hebrew king, ruler, or tribe from the same period in the same parcel of real estate. There will be a stark contrast.





You will come up with dozens. You can come up with numerous graves, stone markers, written records, remains of walls and towns, and assorted misc items dating back thousands of years that absolutely establish that the Jew has constantly had a presence in that land well before any "Palestinian" could make a claim to it.





A thorough, scholarly, factual and very clear book on this subject is From Time Immemorial by Peters. It tells the truth about the whole "Palestinian" scam that came about in the 20th century, as well as the true history of the land and it's people (the Jews).
It was the Romans, specifically Hadrian, who destroyed Jerusalem in the year 70 and the region was renamed Syria Palestina..


 






Yes, 70 AD saw the destruction of the Jewish temple, killing of a million Jews, and thus began the spread of the remaining Jews throughout the world. (And yes Palestina was the name given to the area by the Romans.)





My point is that it really is historically the JEWISH homeland. Additionally, there has been a (smaller) Jewish presence in the area even since 70 AD. So, the claims that in 1948 the Jews somehow came in and took what wasn't theirs is misleading.





The modern-day so-called "Palestinians" have less right to the land than do the historical owners.
But when Moses led the Israelites out of Egypt (and they wandered about in the Sinai for 40 years), they reached the Promised Land..who was there?  



You are correct, resettlement after WWII was done by purchase of land.  Not by force.





 
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Better slingshots and more stylish headwear?

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Second post nails it.

 
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Excellent analysis of the polling of Palestinians:

http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/

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peace will never be an option for them.

or us while they are in existence. (regardless of what a poll of their people says)
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 4:16:40 PM EDT
They want Israel.  I thought it was fairly obvious.
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interdasting... (tag for home)
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Judging by their actions?  To get blown up.  That's all I can think of.
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Land!!!   And when do they want it?
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They want the Jews to go back to Europe.

See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.


Sounds familiar.



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Nobody "kicked them out". They left of their own free will when the neighboring countries threaten to invade, told them to leave and that they could return and have all the free land the jews had reclaimed from desert and marsh after the jews were killed. The few that stayed gained Israeli citizenship. The ones that picked up and left are left without a country. The neighboring states that told them to leave have adamantly refused to grant them citizenship. The King of Jordan is terrified of the ones in his country and Egypt has kept the ones that fled towards Egypt locked up in Gaza
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Nobody "kicked them out". They left of their own free will when the neighboring countries threaten to invade, told them to leave and that they could return and have all the free land the jews had reclaimed from desert and marsh after the jews were killed. The few that stayed gained Israeli citizenship. The ones that picked up and left are left without a country. The neighboring states that told them to leave have adamantly refused to grant them citizenship. The King of Jordan is terrified of the ones in his country and Egypt has kept the ones that fled towards Egypt locked up in Gaza
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They want the Jews to go back to Europe.



See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.





Sounds familiar.











Nobody "kicked them out". They left of their own free will when the neighboring countries threaten to invade, told them to leave and that they could return and have all the free land the jews had reclaimed from desert and marsh after the jews were killed. The few that stayed gained Israeli citizenship. The ones that picked up and left are left without a country. The neighboring states that told them to leave have adamantly refused to grant them citizenship. The King of Jordan is terrified of the ones in his country and Egypt has kept the ones that fled towards Egypt locked up in Gaza
Two salient points:



Reclaimation of the Promised Land was done through outright purchase of a good portion of the land.  That those Palestinians sold it matters not to others, the concept of land ownership is foreign to the region, before resettlement.  The rest was done by spoils of war.  The idea of birthright ownership through tribal lineage predominates in the Arab culture.



Many of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza were Bedouins in other lands before 1948.  After 1948, many Arab countries issue passports to such Bedouin tribal members in the name of Palestine, not the country issuing them (Saudi Arabia among the many doing this practice).  They are told they are Palestinian and they need to reclaim their birthright.  The issuing countries then make monetary gifts to the PA to assuage the guilt.  Often, return to the issuing country is not permitted and so the family must relocate to either Gaza or the West Bank.



Yes, many Arabs stayed in Israel and are full Israeli citizens.



 
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You are correct, resettlement after WWII was done by purchase of land.  Not by force.
 
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Yes after WWII the jews purchased land legally, they did not take it by force which is what the neighboring Arab states attempted more than once. The UN created a "State". That did not change the ownership of any land within the boundaries of the new State. The land the Arabs abandoned reverted to the new state after a period of time. The arabs that had abandoned their land could have at any time returned before the land reverted to the new state and reclaimed their ownership, but refused to do so. If you abandon,  walk away from your house and property in the US, the house and property revert to the state or the bank if you have a mortgage. It works basically the same anywhere that private property is recognized.
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if they ever got there hands on Israel , it would be a barren shithole in 6 months
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Dead Jews.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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All of us dead.
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Nobody "kicked them out". They left of their own free will when the neighboring countries threaten to invade, told them to leave and that they could return and have all the free land the jews had reclaimed from desert and marsh after the jews were killed. The few that stayed gained Israeli citizenship. The ones that picked up and left are left without a country. The neighboring states that told them to leave have adamantly refused to grant them citizenship. The King of Jordan is terrified of the ones in his country and Egypt has kept the ones that fled towards Egypt locked up in Gaza
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They want the Jews to go back to Europe.



See, Palestinians were a majority in Palestine until after WWII. Then they were flooded with Jewish immigrants who out populated them, and demanded their own country. The UN gave them the country, and they kicked the Palestinians out.





Sounds familiar.











Nobody "kicked them out". They left of their own free will when the neighboring countries threaten to invade, told them to leave and that they could return and have all the free land the jews had reclaimed from desert and marsh after the jews were killed. The few that stayed gained Israeli citizenship. The ones that picked up and left are left without a country. The neighboring states that told them to leave have adamantly refused to grant them citizenship. The King of Jordan is terrified of the ones in his country and Egypt has kept the ones that fled towards Egypt locked up in Gaza


I wasn't being serious. I was re-posting a basic argument I've heard from leftists who support the "Palestinian Cause".



 
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Who is responsible for the problems plaguing the Palestinians? During the last two decades, the four institutes whose surveys I examined have asked numerous questions on this subject, and on 53 occasions have offered Israel as one of the possible answers. In all but one case, Israel was the answer most widely chosen, usually by a statistically significant margin—including when it came to problems that at least at first glance seemed largely internal. Among these were clashes between PA police and Hamas that left thirteen dead (1994), Palestinian economic problems (2000), the hindering of political reform in the PA (2001), Mahmoud Abbas’s decision to resign as prime minister (2003), lack of law and order in PA-held territories (2004), the blocking of reform in the PA (2004), the Hamas coup that wrested control of Gaza from Fatah (2007), a water crisis in the West Bank and Gaza (2010), a fuel shortage in Gaza (2012), the inability of the PA to pay its employees (2013), and the ongoing inability of Hamas and Fatah to reconcile (2015).
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When asked hypothetically if Israel’s use of chemical or biological weapons against Palestinians would constitute terror, 93 percent said yes, but when the identical question was posed regarding the use of such weapons of mass destruction by Palestinians against Israelis, only 25 percent responded affirmatively.
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Also in the same survey, Palestinians were asked whether “The destruction of the Twin Towers in New York City by people suspected to be members of Bin Laden’s organization” was terrorism. Only 41 percent were willing to say yes; 53 percent rejected the term.
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peace will never be an option for them.

or us while they are in existence. (regardless of what a poll of their people says)
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Excellent analysis of the polling of Palestinians:

http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2015/11/what-do-palestinians-want/

Lasting peace is not on the table anytime soon.

peace will never be an option for them.

or us while they are in existence. (regardless of what a poll of their people says)


It isn't "a poll", but an analysis of multiple polls over decades.
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Without a doubt.





Look at pictures of Gaza before control was turned over to the Palestinians and then after. It went from a food exporting region to a food importing one almost overnight. Who would have thought that busting up all those greenhouses (built by Jews so therefore eviiiil greenhouses) and ripping out the irrigation pipes to make rockets out them of may have been unwise from an infrastructure perspective... But it doesn't matter to their so-called-leadership, because instead of trying to make it livable they'd rather make it a base to launch attacks from.





Usually when this sort of thing comes up someone will make comparisons between the Palestinians and the Native-Americans, but here's the thing: When they handed Gaza over to the Palestinians it became what it is now, and rapidly; by way of contrast if you would have handed it over to the Seneca there would be fully booked cruise ships pulling in daily to hit the beaches and resorts. That is some prime real estate, and could be (since it once was) very productive, instead you have Detroit with a better view and weather, all of which is completely on the new ownership.
 
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Without a doubt.

Look at pictures of Gaza before control was turned over to the Palestinians and then after. It went from a food exporting region to a food importing one almost overnight. Who would have thought that busting up all those greenhouses (built by Jews so therefore eviiiil greenhouses) up and ripping out the irrigation pipes to make rockets out them of may have been unwise from an infrastructure perspective... But it doesn't matter to their so-called-leadership, because instead of trying to make it livable they'd rather make it a base to launch attacks from.

Usually when this sort of thing comes up someone will make comparisons between the Palestinians and the Native-Americans, but here's the thing: When they handed Gaza over to the Palestinians it became what it is now, and rapidly; by way of contrast if you would have handed it over to the Seneca there would be fully booked cruise ships pulling in daily to hit the beaches and resorts. That is some prime real estate, and could be (since it once was) very productive, instead you have Detroit with a better view and weather, all of which is completely on the new ownership.

 
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if they ever got there hands on Israel , it would be a barren shithole in 6 months

Without a doubt.

Look at pictures of Gaza before control was turned over to the Palestinians and then after. It went from a food exporting region to a food importing one almost overnight. Who would have thought that busting up all those greenhouses (built by Jews so therefore eviiiil greenhouses) up and ripping out the irrigation pipes to make rockets out them of may have been unwise from an infrastructure perspective... But it doesn't matter to their so-called-leadership, because instead of trying to make it livable they'd rather make it a base to launch attacks from.

Usually when this sort of thing comes up someone will make comparisons between the Palestinians and the Native-Americans, but here's the thing: When they handed Gaza over to the Palestinians it became what it is now, and rapidly; by way of contrast if you would have handed it over to the Seneca there would be fully booked cruise ships pulling in daily to hit the beaches and resorts. That is some prime real estate, and could be (since it once was) very productive, instead you have Detroit with a better view and weather, all of which is completely on the new ownership.

 

You nailed it. I was going to post the same thing so thanks for saving me the trouble.
Link Posted: 11/2/2015 5:32:47 PM EDT
...to not be lookin that way at Swearengen?
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