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Posted: 12/28/2003 7:10:47 PM EDT
The Preamble to the Declaration of Independance, and an amendment of your choice, albeit the second!

Anyone know where can I find a wallet sized copy of each of these?  

MG
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:26:36 PM EDT
The Cato Institute publishes the complete DoI and Constitution in a booklet measuring 5" x 3 1/2" x 1/8".  They say they will sell you one for $1.00 (800-767-1241), but if you ask nicely they'll share.  Once with that, you can scan (or tear out) the appropriate pages.

I have about 10 of the things sitting about.  If you send me your address, I'll send you one for nada.
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:39:41 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Amicus:
I have about 10 of the things sitting about.  If you send me your address, I'll send you one for nada.
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Could I please talk you out of one?
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:42:39 PM EDT
It's kind of like a Visa Card, Dont leave home without it
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 7:43:43 PM EDT
or you can go here

[url]http://thepatriot.hopto.org/documents/documents.html[/url]

cut and paste then resize to whatever and print
Link Posted: 12/28/2003 11:58:00 PM EDT
I love it when I pull over somebody and they pull out the ACLU card.  

[LOL]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 12:18:00 AM EDT
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 2:14:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/29/2003 2:15:03 AM EDT by sherrick13]
Oh no.  If they pull this out I usually go line by line with them giving them pointers.  It usually delays them about 30 minutes.  

"1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. You can't be arrested merely for refusing to identify yourself on the street."

I love this one.  I always point this one out if I have to ask a question and then say "You are making me very suspicious.

A local college group here was handing these out and we saw them pretty frequently for a while.  Most people thought it was a "get out of jail free card".  How misinformed they were.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 2:18:17 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
I love it when I pull over somebody and they pull out the ACLU card.  

[LOL]
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ACLU card?WTF is that?Is it like a communist party get out of jail free card?" Does it work?
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:00:14 AM EDT
I thought every body knew about this.

[url]http://archive.aclu.org/issues/criminal/bustcardtext.html[/url]


Be polite and respectful. Never bad-mouth a police officer.

Stay calm and in control of your words, body language and emotions.

Don't get into an argument with the police.

Remember, anything you say or do can be used against you.

Keep your hands where the police can see them.

Don't run. Don't touch any police officer.

Don't resist even if you believe you are innocent.

Don't complain on the scene or tell the police they're wrong or that you're going to file a complaint.

Do not make any statements regarding the incident. Ask for a lawyer immediately upon your arrest.

Remember officers' badge & patrol car numbers.

Write down everything you remember ASAP.

Try to find witnesses & their names & phone numbers.

If you are injured, take photographs of the injuries as soon as possible, but make sure you seek medical attention first.

If you feel your rights have been violated, file a written complaint with police department's internal affairs division or civilian complaint board.

KEEP THIS CARD HANDY!
IF YOU HAVE A POLICE ENCOUNTER, YOU CAN PROTECT YOURSELF.

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1. What you say to the police is always important. What you say can be used against you, and it can give the police an excuse to arrest you, especially if you bad-mouth a police officer.

2. You don't have to answer a police officer's questions, but you must show your driver's license and registration when stopped in a car. In other situations, you can't legally be arrested for refusing to identify yourself to a police officer.

3. You don't have to consent to any search of yourself, your car or your house. If you DO consent to a search, it can affect your rights later in court. If the police say they have a search warrant, ASK TO SEE IT.

4. Do not interfere with, or obstruct the police -- you can be arrested for it.

IF YOU ARE STOPPED FOR QUESTIONING

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1. It's not a crime to refuse to answer questions, but refusing to answer can make the police suspicious about you. You can't be arrested merely for refusing to identify yourself on the street.

2. Police may "pat-down" your clothing if they suspect a concealed weapon. Don't physically resist, but make it clear that you don't consent to any further search.

3. Ask if you are under arrest. If you are, you have a right to know why.

4. Don't bad-mouth the police officer or run away, even if you believe what is happening is unreasonable. That could lead to your arrest.

IF YOU'RE STOPPED IN YOUR CAR

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1. Upon request, show them your driver's license, registration, and proof of insurance. In certain cases, your car can be searched without a warrant as long as the police have probable cause. To protect yourself later, you should make it clear that you do not consent to a search. It is not lawful for police to arrest you simply for refusing to consent to a search.

2. If you're given a ticket, you should sign it; otherwise you can be arrested. You can always fight the case in court later.

3. If you're suspected of drunk driving (DWI) and refuse to take a blood, urine or breath test, your driver's license may be suspended.

IF YOU'RE ARRESTED OR TAKEN TO A POLICE STATION

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1. You have the right to remain silent and to talk to a lawyer before you talk to the police. Tell the police nothing except your name and address. Don't give any explanations, excuses or stories. You can make your defense later, in court, based on what you and your lawyer decide is best.

2. Ask to see a lawyer immediately. If you can't pay for a lawyer, you have a right to a free one, and should ask the police how the lawyer can be contacted. Don't say anything without a lawyer.

3. Within a reasonable time after your arrest, or booking, you have the right to make a local phone call: to a lawyer, bail bondsman, a relative or any other person. The police may not listen to the call to the lawyer.

4. Sometimes you can be released without bail, or have bail lowered. Have your lawyer ask the judge about this possibility. You must be taken before the judge on the next court day after arrest.

5. Do not make any decisions in your case until you have talked with a lawyer.

IN YOUR HOME

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1. If the police knock and ask to enter your home, you don't have to admit them unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

2. However, in some emergency situations (like when a person is screaming for help inside, or when the police are chasing someone) officers are allowed to enter and search your home without a warrant.

3. If you are arrested, the police can search you and the area close by. If you are in a building, "close by" usually means just the room you are in.

We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we should also understand our own rights and responsibilities -- especially in our relationships with the police. Everyone, including minors, has the right to courteous and respectful police treatment.

If your rights are violated, don't try to deal with the situation at the scene. You can discuss the matter with an attorney afterwards, or file a complaint with the Internal Affairs or Civilian Complaint Board.

Produced by the American Civil Liberties Union.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 3:35:36 AM EDT
This is why I suggested putting the 2A on the AR15.com watch caseback.  It is my concealed carry permit.

Originally Posted By mohabie:
The Preamble to the Declaration of Independance, and an amendment of your choice, albeit the second!

Anyone know where can I find a wallet sized copy of each of these?  

MG
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Link Posted: 12/29/2003 4:15:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sherrick13:

I love this one.  I always point this one out if I have to ask a question and then say "You are making me very suspicious.

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LOL!
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 9:54:36 AM EDT
You can get the Bill of Rights printed on metal wallet sized cards from http://www.securityedition.com/

I got some, to hand out to my brother, girlfriend, and parents, as well as myself. If you don't like metal detectors, they make that sort of statement too [:P]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 11:21:30 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Amicus:
The Cato Institute publishes the complete DoI and Constitution in a booklet measuring 5" x 3 1/2" x 1/8".  They say they will sell you one for $1.00
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I love these Cato booklets. I carry one everywhere, especially if I'm travelling.  My brother does the same.

A while back he was flying and got the super search as usual. (Nothing sez terrorist like a fat white guy with glasses, right?)  Before he left, he demanded that they take a copy of the Constitution & BOR just so they could see how many things they violated.

It was like a bunch of vampires recoiling at a crucifix!  Priceless.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 11:26:22 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
We all recognize the need for effective law enforcement, but we ...
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...try to fuck up the works every chance we get anyways... [rolleyes]
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 11:39:41 AM EDT
I used to carry a copy of the Bill of Rights with me all the time. I no longer carry a wallet, so I don't carry it anymore. There's probably a copy in the glovebox of my truck.

Not to start a bunch of shit, but reading the information transcribed from the ACLU card, I don't see anything particularly objectionable there. Most of it sounds like good, common sense advice. Heck, I've read almost everything contained on that card at one time or another right here on ARFCOM, particularly with respect to hypothetical incidents involving a self-defense shooting. Sound familiar?: Refuse to comply to a non-warrant search, give only the minimum information to a police officer, take note of badge numbers, etc. I don't see where the ACLU, in this case, is necessarily advocating anything other than people sticking up for their Constitutionally-guaranteed rights.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 9:52:09 PM EDT
Oh no, most of the things it says are very reasonable and I wish most thugs would follow it.  But the people that pull these out are the stupid liberal middle class college kids that think that little card will keep them from getting busted with pot or X.
Link Posted: 12/29/2003 9:54:30 PM EDT
An almanac.
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 6:10:49 AM EDT
Originally Posted By sherrick13:
Oh no, most of the things it says are very reasonable and I wish most thugs would follow it.  But the people that pull these out are the stupid liberal middle class college kids that think that little card will keep them from getting busted with pot or X.
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I see where you're coming from. It's funny. These hippies are more concerned with the police who arrest them following the law than they are with obeying the law themselves. Absurd. Perhaps I should add my own friendly advice to the ACLU card:
"Don't want to get busted for pot? Don't buy/sell/use/carry the shit."
Link Posted: 12/30/2003 6:11:23 AM EDT
Originally Posted By ar10er:
An almanac.
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[lol]
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