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4/14/2015 9:31:00 PM EDT
Short story facts:  Mom passed away 3 years ago, have a good relationship with my Dad.  My Dad never had a Dad, so he has always had issues relating to me specifically....loves me but has a hard time showing it.  He has four grandkids, two (my sister's) he raised and my two that he really doesn't show much interest in spending time with or relating to.  Bought my sister's kids cars, now I'm struggling to buy my Son a car, now that he's 16.  There is only one grandchild he really has anything to do with, the first.

I work my butt off.  60-70 hours a week (not including traffic of 2-3 hours a day) and I run a tax business out of my home on nights/weekends on top of that.  I'm currently finishing my last clients as we speak.

My Dad came over a couple weeks ago and I did his taxes (for free), something I do out of respect.  He paid for most of my undergrad, and he's my Dad.  Then the turd stiffed me out of the $10 efile fee and didn't even bother to say thanks when I was done (see the issues part above).

So tonight he texts me and asks me if I can do a 'quick' return for my niece, his granddaughter (on April 14th at 8 PM).  So I told him no--told him to have her other Grandfather or Dad (who are also accountants) do it.  I'm not eating another $10 efile fee and taking more time away from my family to do yet another tax return for free....actually -$10.

Am I being a dick?
4/14/2015 9:32:24 PM EDT
[#1]
yes
4/14/2015 9:32:52 PM EDT
[#2]
Does he know about the $10 fee?

Eta: just realized what day it is (I filed months ago), I think OP is a dick for making a big deal about his Dad's fee, but I understand not wanting to do another return at the last minute especially when she has other accountants to turn to.
4/14/2015 9:33:10 PM EDT
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Short story facts:  Mom passed away 3 years ago, have a good relationship with my Dad.  My Dad never had a Dad, so he has always had issues relating to me specifically....loves me but has a hard time showing it.  He has four grandkids, two (my sister's) he raised and my two that he really doesn't show much interest in spending time with or relating to.  Bought my sister's kids cars, now I'm struggling to buy my Son a car, now that he's 16.  There is only one grandchild he really has anything to do with, the first.

I work my butt off.  60-70 hours a week (not including traffic of 2-3 hours a day) and I run a tax business out of my home on nights/weekends on top of that.  I'm currently finishing my last clients as we speak.

My Dad came over a couple weeks ago and I did his taxes (for free), something I do out of respect. He paid for most of my undergrad, and he's my Dad.  Then the turd stiffed me out of the $10 efile fee and didn't even bother to say thanks when I was done (see the issues part above).

So tonight he texts me and asks me if I can do a 'quick' return for my niece, his granddaughter (on April 14th at 8 PM).  So I told him no--told him to have her other Grandfather or Dad (who are also accountants) do it.  I'm not eating another $10 efile fee and taking more time away from my family to do yet another tax return for free....actually -$10.

Am I being a dick?
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Sounds like you really appreciate your dad.

You're a dick. hold up need more info

ETA: Did you pay your dad back for the undergrad?  How much was that, give or take?
4/14/2015 9:33:16 PM EDT
[#4]
Kinda IMHO $10?... the dude paid for your education.
4/14/2015 9:34:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Is $10.00 that big of a number compared to what most of undergrad costs?

I'd eat the $10.00 and a million more like it.  He's your dad after all.. you only get one of those.

Hey you asked.
4/14/2015 9:34:19 PM EDT
[#6]
No, I had 2 grandpa's like that.

I tried contacting them but one died and the other doesn't care enough.
4/14/2015 9:34:49 PM EDT
[#7]
OP is an *******
4/14/2015 9:35:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Ten dollars.

4/14/2015 9:35:57 PM EDT
[#9]
For your father, I would eat the e-file fee...........but for the niece, she can pay her own fee
4/14/2015 9:36:25 PM EDT
[#10]
Enjoy him while he's still here.
4/14/2015 9:36:51 PM EDT
[#11]
Goddamn petty.
4/14/2015 9:37:23 PM EDT
[#12]
Did he pay for your sister's degree?
4/14/2015 9:39:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Yes. Help your dad out.
4/14/2015 9:40:45 PM EDT
[#14]
Make sure you never ask him for anything else. Ever.
4/14/2015 9:41:17 PM EDT
[#15]
Sounds like OP is hurt over the lack of the thank you, which is understandable. The $10 loss for the lack of thanks is just icing on the cake.

Maybe experience has tought him that he will not receive any type of thank you from his dad or niece again and be out another $10. Which doesn't sound unreasonable.
4/14/2015 9:41:34 PM EDT
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He did help him out.
4/14/2015 9:41:41 PM EDT
[#17]
Yes.

All accountants are dicks though, so don't worry about it.
4/14/2015 9:41:52 PM EDT
[#18]
For a website devoted to the baddest rifle on the planet, people here sure get pussy hurt over the smallest shit.

My dad's been in the ground since I turned 19, be glad you can still talk to yours.
4/14/2015 9:42:25 PM EDT
[#19]
I love GD....

I figured I would get answer like:

You're a dick--but for different reasons.
Disown the father
Disown the niece
Do the taxes and his grass
[had to edit to add] all Accountants are aholes.... gotta love that....partially true!

Believe me, it's not about the $10.  It's about his wanting nothing to do with my kids or not spending any time with us until he needs something.  It's about having a relationship that doesn't just work when he needs something.

I don't run this business for fun, I run it to put food in my family's mouth.  So I'm already giving him $350 a year in free taxes, I think it's reasonable not to go backwards to give him free tax work.  And truth be known, if he spent time with us or treated us like something other than H&R Block, I'd give him free efiles forever.  It's not about the $10.
4/14/2015 9:42:59 PM EDT
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Yeah. All I needed to see. And I bet your dad pays more attention to the other two kids because they had a shitty mom. Don't be another bad example.
4/14/2015 9:44:03 PM EDT
[#21]
As someone that is currently pre-paying my son's college tuition at the tune of about $350/month for the next 10 years (son is 4 years old now,) I can appreciate the sacrifices that go into insuring that your child has what he needs to succeed.

Your dad sounds like he did that.

Barring any emotional or family issues, your dad "walked the walk."  Pay the damned $10 and be happy that you have the opportunity to do so.

4/14/2015 9:44:13 PM EDT
[#22]
A simple rule I try to live by is ...
When I do something for someone, I do it without expectation of thanks or payment.

You'll never be disappionted that way.
4/14/2015 9:44:34 PM EDT
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I love GD....

I figured I would get answer like:

You're a dick--but for different reasons.
Disown the father
Disown the niece
Do the taxes and his grass
[had to edit to add] all Accountants are aholes.... gotta love that....partially true!

Believe me, it's not about the $10.  It's about his wanting nothing to do with my kids or not spending any time with us until he needs something.

I don't run this business for fun, I run it to put food in my family's mouth.  So I'm already giving him $350 a year in free taxes, I think it's reasonable not to go backwards to give him free tax work.
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Tell him. Don't wait till it's too late. And let him know you'll help out but make him take your kids to a cheap dinner. Just the three of em.
4/14/2015 9:45:10 PM EDT
[#24]
Ten fucking dollars.......really
4/14/2015 9:46:35 PM EDT
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I love GD....

I figured I would get answer like:

You're a dick--but for different reasons.
Disown the father
Disown the niece
Do the taxes and his grass
[had to edit to add] all Accountants are aholes.... gotta love that....partially true!

Believe me, it's not about the $10.  It's about his wanting nothing to do with my kids or not spending any time with us until he needs something.  It's about having a relationship that doesn't just work when he needs something.

I don't run this business for fun, I run it to put food in my family's mouth.  So I'm already giving him $350 a year in free taxes, I think it's reasonable not to go backwards to give him free tax work.
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Like somebody else said, "He's still live and you can talk to him." Maybe he will change his ways. And then he's not dead, and you can talk to him, etc. I'll send you $10 man, PM me.
4/14/2015 9:47:12 PM EDT
[#26]
What's $10 for your dad?  I spent $10 on a belt for my mom's mower last week and didn't ask for money.
4/14/2015 9:47:55 PM EDT
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What's $10 for your dad?  I spent $10 on a belt for my mom's mower last week and didn't ask for money.
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Did she say thank you?
4/14/2015 9:49:01 PM EDT
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a- why buy the kid a car? let him buy his own car.
b- suck it up, it's $10 for your dad. nothing else matters, he's your father
c- have none of these people heard of turbo tax?
4/14/2015 9:49:07 PM EDT
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A simple rule I try to live by is ...

When I do something for someone, I do it without expectation of thanks or payment.



You'll never be disappionted that way.
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It's really the best way to think about it.



 
4/14/2015 9:49:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Sure...send them over with 20 bucks (to cover E-filing) and I'll do them for free.

That's how you do it.

4/14/2015 9:51:14 PM EDT
[#31]
For what it's worth all the haters I offered to let him come over tomorrow when I have all my paying clients out the door and do it.

But again, it wasn't about the $10

Tonight it was about him showing up at the very last minute, knowing how busy I am.  And it is really about the fact that he doesn't spend any time with us of any significance.  In fact, my 16 year old son is at an akward age and I specifically asked my Dad to make it a point to spend some time with him---go out driving, movie, dinner, etc-- and even offered to pay.  But he's been running around chasing women (heck he even called to ask me tax advice for one of the women he was dating).  Made no effort what so ever.

It's complicated, but it's not about the $10.
4/14/2015 9:51:40 PM EDT
[#32]
Tell them to bring a pizza and a case of beer with them
4/14/2015 9:53:02 PM EDT
[#33]
Sounds to me like dad or not you owe him. Do the taxes and forget about the measly $10.
4/14/2015 9:53:06 PM EDT
[#34]
You'll be thinking about this when he's no longer around.  Just do it.  Live with a clear conscious.
4/14/2015 9:53:19 PM EDT
[#35]
I'd give a lot more than $10 to have another day with my dad.



Life's too short for drama, OP.
4/14/2015 9:53:39 PM EDT
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For what it's worth all the haters I offered to let him come over tomorrow when I have all my paying clients out the door and do it.

But again, it wasn't about the $10

Tonight it was about him showing up at the very last minute, knowing how busy I am.  And it is really about the fact that he doesn't spend any time with us of any significance.  In fact, my 16 year old son is at an akward age and I specifically asked my Dad to make it a point to spend some time with him---go out driving, movie, dinner, etc-- and even offered to pay.  But he's been running around chasing women (heck he even called to ask me tax advice for one of the women he was dating).

It's complicated, but it's not about the $10.
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From this stranger's perspective (me) it seems like you need to have a heart to heart with your dad without making that big of a deal of it.  Maybe it's time to heal up a lifetime of miscommunication.  No matter what you choose I wish you the best.
4/14/2015 9:53:43 PM EDT
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What's $10 for your dad?  I spent $10 on a belt for my mom's mower last week and didn't ask for money.
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Shit, Brah, that's 2 packs of smokes right there.
4/14/2015 9:54:38 PM EDT
[#38]
The niece needs to get a sense of urgency instead of waiting until the last minute to file her taxes.

Teach her a lesson by filing an extension for her.  Tell her to bring an envelope and a stamp.

4/14/2015 9:54:55 PM EDT
[#39]
OP, is there any reason you don't just sack the fuck up and tell him what's on your mind?
4/14/2015 9:54:59 PM EDT
[#40]
Im with you OP. I would still do my dad's stuff but anybody else can go fly a kite. He is taking advantage of you.It might have been different if it was a niece you were close to and she brought it to you herself but this, no.
4/14/2015 9:55:15 PM EDT
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a- why buy the kid a car? let him buy his own car.
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One simple reason....I have two cars that are 2006 and 2009 models.  The cursed middle age where if they are wrecked I get nothing near the cost to buy a new one.  So if junior wrecks one, I'm screwed.  I need a cheap, old car to assign him to in order to keep insurance down.

He's also getting a job, so he will need a car and will be paying for it.
4/14/2015 9:59:22 PM EDT
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From this stranger's perspective (me) it seems like you need to have a heart to heart with your dad without making that big of a deal of it.  Maybe it's time to heal up a lifetime of miscommunication.  No matter what you choose I wish you the best.
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For what it's worth all the haters I offered to let him come over tomorrow when I have all my paying clients out the door and do it.

But again, it wasn't about the $10

Tonight it was about him showing up at the very last minute, knowing how busy I am.  And it is really about the fact that he doesn't spend any time with us of any significance.  In fact, my 16 year old son is at an akward age and I specifically asked my Dad to make it a point to spend some time with him---go out driving, movie, dinner, etc-- and even offered to pay.  But he's been running around chasing women (heck he even called to ask me tax advice for one of the women he was dating).

It's complicated, but it's not about the $10.


From this stranger's perspective (me) it seems like you need to have a heart to heart with your dad without making that big of a deal of it.  Maybe it's time to heal up a lifetime of miscommunication.  No matter what you choose I wish you the best.


Well in one of my posts, I mentioned how I asked him to spend some focused time with my Son--his only grandson--because he was going through those teen years.....that and he's the only grandfather my son has.  He made no effort what so ever.  My kids LOVE it when he comes over and takes them out for an ice cream, which is beyond rare.

As in all life, it's complicated.

My kids have seen him buy his other grandchildren cars, clothes, vacations, pay for their college, etc......hell he even helped a complete stranger (friend of my niece) buy a car.  My kids see that and ask why he doesn't do those things for them.  They also ask why he never comes around to spend time with them and when he is here, can't seem to get away fast enough.  That's the part for which I have no answers.
4/14/2015 10:02:28 PM EDT
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This isn't about $10. It's about your poor relationship with your father. I don't think its that big of an issue that you refused to do the other granddaughter's taxes, it's fucking 8:00 at night.
4/14/2015 10:02:30 PM EDT
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Best of luck to you, OP.
4/14/2015 10:06:13 PM EDT
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This isn't about $10. It's about your poor relationship with your father. I don't think its that big of an issue that you refused to do the other granddaughter's taxes, it's fucking 8:00 at night.
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QFT this man gets it.

When my Mom passed away, he kind of got real close.  Spent a lot of time with us, came over for dinner and hung out a lot.  I was thrilled, it's how Dad's and Sons should act.

Then he started the whole e-harmony thing and disappeared unless he needed some taxes.  We have a generally good relationship, I help him with stuff and he helps me.

Family, it's complicated.

Definitely not about the $10, somewhat about the fact that I just completed quarter end at work and have been working nonstop on taxes....maybe I'm pissy.
4/14/2015 10:07:16 PM EDT
[#46]
1. It sounds like you are whining that your Dad does what he wants with his money.
2. You're not being a dick by not wanting to do the nieces taxes this late.
4/14/2015 10:08:10 PM EDT
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4/14/2015 10:10:02 PM EDT
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All right fellas, thanks for the good advice.  Maybe I am just being April 15th pissy.

I'm off to get my 4 hours before I'm back at it again.  I'm sure I will end up doing them tomorrow night.
4/14/2015 10:10:42 PM EDT
[#49]
$10?  Involving family?






Loosen up.  Tell him you can do it, but they need to cough up $10 for the fees.  Not hard.
4/14/2015 10:12:42 PM EDT
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For your father, I would eat the e-file fee...........but for the niece, she can pay her own fee
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