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1/19/2009 10:18:11 AM EDT
I know that there has been quite a few threads about WWB handgun ammo being somewhat scarce recently, but even when these threads show up I can usually drop by my local WalMart ( NW Ft Lauderdale area ) and find a good supply readily available. I dropped by 3 of them today and there wasn't a box to be found of either 9mm-40 S&W- or 45 .ACP in either FMJ or JHP. All I could get for a response was something about a reset now that Christmas was over which I thought was B.S.

Now they did have a nice selection of Obamawear and doodads......
1/19/2009 10:24:16 AM EDT
[#1]
....and your point is?
1/19/2009 10:25:07 AM EDT
[#2]
The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range.  They were all out of bulk .22s too.
1/19/2009 10:26:01 AM EDT
[#3]
His point is that WWB is scarce at Wal Mart. Did you actually read his post?
1/19/2009 10:27:02 AM EDT
[#4]
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The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range.  They were all out of bulk .22s too.


Don't be surprised if they end up only carrying a limited supply of shotgun shells, deer calibers, and no handgun ammo at some point.
1/19/2009 10:29:16 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
His point is that WWB is scarce at Wal Mart. Did you actually read his post?


No, it's that ammo is scarce at his Wal-Marts.  It's like how a recession is when your neighbor is out of work, and a depression is when you are out of work.
1/19/2009 10:30:13 AM EDT
[#6]
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The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range.  They were all out of bulk .22s too.


so which is better ammo - WWB or Blazer Brass?
1/19/2009 10:31:30 AM EDT
[#7]
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Now they did have a nice selection of Obamawear and doodads......


Nice. Imagine that!

1/19/2009 10:32:38 AM EDT
[#8]
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The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range.  They were all out of bulk .22s too.


so which is better ammo - WWB or Blazer Brass?


IMO, WWB.  YMMV
1/19/2009 10:32:55 AM EDT
[#9]
I don't mind either for range use, I just usually buy the WWB. It's about the same in price too.



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The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range. They were all out of bulk .22s too.




so which is better ammo - WWB or Blazer Brass?




1/19/2009 10:35:31 AM EDT
[#10]
I guess my point is that not only down here in my area is it now becoming tougher to find, but there has been threads over the last 2 weeks or so where other areas of the country are seeing the same thing. Not just limited amounts, but total shelves being empty of these basic handgun calibers. If one store is a little short, you can blame it on bad ordering on the part of the Asst Mgr in Sporting goods. If you start seeing it across the board, then there is a much better chance that this isn't random, but possibly a move by Walmart to remove handgun calibers from their shelves.

As far as I know, I haven't heard of Winchester cutting back on production.
1/19/2009 10:42:59 AM EDT
[#11]
I was told by a friend who works in NC that they will no longer be selling firearms in NC stores, same thing told to me by WM associate at my store.  In my WM in VA we still have long guns but ammo is getting scarce.  I've been looking for bulk .22 for a while and cannot get any.
1/19/2009 10:44:09 AM EDT
[#12]
Checked 2 walmarts today, no 9mm

had .40 and .45 though
1/19/2009 10:44:47 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I guess my point is that not only down here in my area is it now becoming tougher to find, but there has been threads over the last 2 weeks or so where other areas of the country are seeing the same thing. Not just limited amounts, but total shelves being empty of these basic handgun calibers. If one store is a little short, you can blame it on bad ordering on the part of the Asst Mgr in Sporting goods. If you start seeing it across the board, then there is a much better chance that this isn't random, but possibly a move by Walmart to remove handgun calibers from their shelves.

As far as I know, I haven't heard of Winchester cutting back on production.


Well, stores, especially Wally World run on a "sales cycle". So, if you take ammo sales from the previous years, the re-stocking cycle might have been on a six month or 3 month basis. That way they don't tie up money in inventory.

So, let's say they order every 3 months. Suddenly they are faced with a 3 day sales cycle. They'll adjust the cycle or not after they do a study of the cycle.

Same with producers of ammo. I'm sure they had run cycles to keep up with whatever demand was. That could be a 4 hour run or whatever they had determined. I would bet that they are running the machines on a 24 hr cycle hoping to cash in on demand.

All that said it's very possible you might see sales because of over production and excess inventory amounts.

1/19/2009 10:49:05 AM EDT
[#14]
4 Wally worlds in my area are out of the .45 and I have been checking for about 3weeks now.

Each time I ask the counter person looks at me and shrugs :dunno:
1/19/2009 10:49:22 AM EDT
[#15]
I was there this morning and there was virtually no ammo to be found... No .22, 9mm, 40 S&W, .45, etc.  Im in MO so it's definitely not isolated.  The gal behind the counter said they had the ammo on back order.  She also said that people have been buying it up for fear of an "ammo tax"
 


1/19/2009 10:52:29 AM EDT
[#16]
Things are all good in the Northeast.  I regularly shop ammo at Walmarts in CT and PA and have not seen any real change in the stock levels of WWB except when I take it home with me.






If you notice throughout must of the store though, there are plenty of things that are fairly low in stock right now.  It's a generally slow time of year for things.  Many areas depleted since Christmas are just now starting to get resupplied.



Walmart has some pretty interesting ways to monitor stock levels throughout previous years and they certainly can decide that based on low ammunition sales in the previous January-February that they may not need to re-stock as aggressively until March.



1/19/2009 10:53:49 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
I know that there has been quite a few threads about WWB handgun ammo being somewhat scarce recently, but even when these threads show up I can usually drop by my local WalMart ( NW Ft Lauderdale area ) and find a good supply readily available. I dropped by 3 of them today and there wasn't a box to be found of either 9mm-40 S&W- or 45 .ACP in either FMJ or JHP. All I could get for a response was something about a reset now that Christmas was over which I thought was B.S.

Now they did have a nice selection of Obamawear and doodads......




I just 300 rounds for around $90 there last week in west Tampa.
The stores in the berbs never have any but this store was stocked up.
When I was  kid I worked at home depot. and  each store had people who ordered and reordered stock for the store.
There was always a handfull of stores that never had everything they needed due to the orders being wrong or low.
Maybe wal-mart is the same way?

1/19/2009 10:55:26 AM EDT
[#18]
The Wal-Mart in Land O Lakes Florida, no ammo to be found...
1/19/2009 10:56:08 AM EDT
[#19]
Don't go to Barnes and Nobel. It is absolutely sickening.


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Now they did have a nice selection of Obamawear and doodads......


1/19/2009 11:02:08 AM EDT
[#20]
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Don't go to Barnes and Nobel. It is absolutely sickening.


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Now they did have a nice selection of Obamawear and doodads......




I know what you mean, there's an evil side of me that wants to go into my local B & N with a bottle of charcoal lighter fluid and a book of matches...  

1/19/2009 11:07:15 AM EDT
[#21]
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The WWB was all gone at my walmart, no .45. Just two boxes of blazer that I picked up before heading to the range.  They were all out of bulk .22s too.


so which is better ammo - WWB or Blazer Brass?


WWB, IMO.  But I like Winchester brass.

That said, Blazer Brass is some clean stuff.
1/19/2009 11:16:27 AM EDT
[#22]
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His point is that WWB is scarce at Wal Mart. Did you actually read his post?


No, it's that ammo is scarce at his Wal-Marts.  It's like how a recession is when your neighbor is out of work, and a depression is when you are out of work.


Theory of Relativity huh?
1/19/2009 11:30:59 AM EDT
[#23]

None at the two closest to me either... There was sone .32(?) (one box).


1/19/2009 11:33:39 AM EDT
[#24]
yorktown, VA walmart has had sparse ammo for a while now.  I asked if they were going to stop stocking guns-n-ammo last week and they said 'no, just low right now'
1/19/2009 11:33:51 AM EDT
[#25]
I bought the last 3 boxes of Blazer Brass 9mm at my Super Wal-Mart last night.  $8.97 a box.

No other handgun ammo in the case.  Even the pricey 44mag stuff was gone.
1/19/2009 11:43:23 AM EDT
[#26]
I just called my local walmart here in Houston and they said they are out of WWB 9mm and 45acp.  I asked when they are expecting some more in and they said they have no idea because the walmart warehouse is out.  I asked if that was just their store’s warehouse and she said “no, its for every Houston Walmart.”  Of course she could have been wrong, but something tells me she wasn't.

So I guess all Houston walmarts are out of WWB 9mm and 45acp.
1/19/2009 11:49:16 AM EDT
[#27]
The Super Wal-Mart that I go to weekly to buy ammo almost always has a decent, cheaply priced supply of .223, .40 S&W, .32 ACP, .380, .22 long rifle and .45ACP.

After I've walked out the door; they no longer do, and the next guy who comes along is screwed.

Maybe it's you.

The problem is that rather than picking up a box or two as needed; everyone is removing Wal-Mart's stock from their ammo cages at nearly a rate of 1 purchaser per full cage.

Yeah; I'll admit to being part of the problem but plenty of people here bitch and moan about gouging when we're almost all guilty of hoarding.

If you want to find the ammo that's missing from the ammo cages at Wal-Mart; look in your gun safe.

If it's not there; some other hoarder has it stashed away in their safe.
1/19/2009 11:49:39 AM EDT
[#28]
I went to one today at lunch (MD)–– no .22 bulk packs, the only pistol ammo was 5 boxes on Blazer .40 FMJ.  No 9mm, .45., .38, . 375, etc.

I got the last three boxes of CCI mkini mags.  All shelves almost bare.
1/19/2009 11:49:42 AM EDT
[#29]
good story
1/19/2009 11:52:39 AM EDT
[#30]
You don't need ammo now that we have Obama® merchandise!
1/19/2009 12:03:06 PM EDT
[#31]
I've visited my local walmart twice in the last two weeks. On my first trip, they had a good selection of .40 and .22 ammo along with numerous boxes of shotgun and ammo and a handful of hunting rifle ammunition. Last week when I checked, the .40 ammo was all but gone (I recall seeing about 2 or 3 boxes that were still left) but there was a decent amount of 9mm 115 grain fmj target ammunition. In both visits I saw absolutely no .45 acp ammunition.

BTW, the store in question is located in americus, georgia.
1/19/2009 12:14:42 PM EDT
[#32]
They've been out of .45 WWB at all of the Dallas Walmarts I've tried for the last few weeks and say that the warehouse is out as well.  I did pick up 300 rounds of .45 at a Walmart in Arkadelphia, AR this week, but the price has been upped to $32 per 100, I think.
1/19/2009 12:16:28 PM EDT
[#33]
I've been buying WWB every couple of weeks for over 2 years from my local Wally. They usually have 3-4 boxes on hand at all times. Every Walmart within driving distance is out of everything in pistol caliber right now.

At least they just got a butt ton of the federal .22 value packs which they where recently out of.
1/19/2009 12:17:51 PM EDT
[#34]
I bought it all... scuse me, the tractor trailer just pulled up.
1/19/2009 12:19:55 PM EDT
[#35]
Isnt Walmart anti-gun?
I figured they would let their supply dry up then be done with it.
As far as which ammo is better, the one thats available is the better one
Did someone mention "Wadcutters" somewhere
1/19/2009 12:21:59 PM EDT
[#36]
The ammo case at my Walmart was empty. Just a couple boxes of .25 and some 12GA birdshot. Everything else was gone.

The American public has bought more ammo in the last 3 months than in the last 10 years.
1/19/2009 12:29:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Isnt Walmart anti-gun?
I figured they would let their supply dry up then be done with it.
As far as which ammo is better, the one thats available is the better one
Did someone mention "Wadcutters" somewhere


Yeah, but I think they might be more pro-profit than they are anti-gun... at least for now anyway.
1/19/2009 12:34:33 PM EDT
[#38]



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Isnt Walmart anti-gun?

I figured they would let their supply dry up then be done with it.

As far as which ammo is better, the one thats available is the better one

Did someone mention "Wadcutters" somewhere


Walmart is the country's largest firearms retailer.  As for their politics on guns, they are generally agnostic.  If the floorspace/counterspace in their stores doesn't generate the sales that they want, they'll move it out and replace it with something else.  That's more or less what they did a few years ago - they identified stores that had gun counters but had low sales volume of firearms.  They moved out the guns and kept the ammunition.  If the ammunition sales aren't there, they move out the ammunition.



Walmart (unlike K-Mart) makes business decisions based on realities, not emotions.





1/19/2009 2:17:05 PM EDT
[#39]
I go with the blazer brass, cheaper than WWB, there is a brick, probably 100 boxes of 9 mm at mine for 9.97 a box.  45 is running low there at 15 a box.  

another thing is that at mine, WWB is more than Rem. UMC
1/19/2009 2:23:09 PM EDT
[#40]
NH Walmarts got wiped out in the last week.  When I started reading posts here about it, there was still plenty, but last Saturday all they had was a little bit of .22, and a bunch of odd hunting caliber stuff.  No 9mm, .40, .45  or 5.56
1/19/2009 2:23:16 PM EDT
[#41]
My son, 2 hours ago, just picked up 15 boxes of 9mm WWB at Walmart in San Antonio for $20 a box.

He called me and told me, and I said.."Good boy."



HH
1/19/2009 2:27:20 PM EDT
[#42]


Target has military surplus cop killer hollow points....

1/19/2009 3:39:05 PM EDT
[#43]
I might have to take a run to Bass Pro in Dania tomorrow and see if the have anything there.

Only problem with that is that I usually spend more than I want to after going thru the place.

1/19/2009 3:49:44 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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Isnt Walmart anti-gun?
I figured they would let their supply dry up then be done with it.
As far as which ammo is better, the one thats available is the better one
Did someone mention "Wadcutters" somewhere

Walmart is the country's largest firearms retailer.  As for their politics on guns, they are generally agnostic.  If the floorspace/counterspace in their stores doesn't generate the sales that they want, they'll move it out and replace it with something else.  That's more or less what they did a few years ago - they identified stores that had gun counters but had low sales volume of firearms.  They moved out the guns and kept the ammunition.  If the ammunition sales aren't there, they move out the ammunition.

Walmart (unlike K-Mart) makes business decisions based on realities, not emotions.




And yet, according to one of your previous posts in this thread, they will use ONE YEAR OLD sales data to decide whether to stock ammo, instead of noticing that it has been freakin' flying off the shelves for the past two months.  

I guess if I made "business decisions" I'd pay attention to what is actually selling from day to day, and keep a pile of it on hand to sell until it stops selling.

2 local Walmarts were cleaned out of ammo yesterday evening in the Cincy area, by the way.  I mean everything except a few boxes of odd calibers, 3 boxes of .22lr, and some "value" shotshells.
1/19/2009 3:51:55 PM EDT
[#45]
I happened to notice the same thing at wally World in League City, TX today; not one round of pistol ammo to be found.  Only shotgun, some common hunting rifle calibers, and .22 ammo.  

They did have Obama t-shirts and such though too...
1/19/2009 3:53:26 PM EDT
[#46]
Bugger all ammo in Clermont, Gainesville or Ocala walmarts...quite distressing really
1/19/2009 4:09:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Same here.Odd calibers one or two boxes.Federal 22 550 pack is now 14.50.Blazer 45 was 16.00.Before deer season they had LOTS of high priced rifle ammo and now nothing.
1/19/2009 4:09:31 PM EDT
[#48]
My closest WM had plenty of ammo up until the last week or so. I went in on Saturday and like many of the posts above, it looked like they were going out of business or something. The only handgun ammo on the shelves were a couple of boxes of .44 magnum high dollar loads, a box of WWB .380, and one box of Rem-UMC .40. Nothing else. They had no military caliber rifle ammo either, just a few odd boxes of .270 and similar. Even the .22's were wiped out, I only saw a handful of premium target loads, no bulk packs of any kind. This is a big shooting and hunting area, and I have never seen the ammo so depleted.
1/19/2009 4:13:34 PM EDT
[#49]
Not only has my local Wally World been out of almost all ammo for three weeks now, I went there tonight after work to buy the last remaining box of Federal .223 100 Round Valu-Pak, and had to wait at the counter for almost 20 minutes, after having someone paged about five times before someone finally came to the counter.

But despite the shitty service, they do have the best prices on ammo in my area.
1/19/2009 4:16:45 PM EDT
[#50]



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Isnt Walmart anti-gun?

I figured they would let their supply dry up then be done with it.

As far as which ammo is better, the one thats available is the better one

Did someone mention "Wadcutters" somewhere


Walmart is the country's largest firearms retailer. As for their politics on guns, they are generally agnostic. If the floorspace/counterspace in their stores doesn't generate the sales that they want, they'll move it out and replace it with something else. That's more or less what they did a few years ago - they identified stores that had gun counters but had low sales volume of firearms. They moved out the guns and kept the ammunition. If the ammunition sales aren't there, they move out the ammunition.



Walmart (unlike K-Mart) makes business decisions based on realities, not emotions.









And yet, according to one of your previous posts in this thread, they will use ONE YEAR OLD sales data to decide whether to stock ammo, instead of noticing that it has been freakin' flying off the shelves for the past two months.



I guess if I made "business decisions" I'd pay attention to what is actually selling from day to day, and keep a pile of it on hand to sell until it stops selling.



2 local Walmarts were cleaned out of ammo yesterday evening in the Cincy area, by the way. I mean everything except a few boxes of odd calibers, 3 boxes of .22lr, and some "value" shotshells.


That's one of those supply and demand issues.  Yes, the demand is there and I'm sure that Walmart would LOVE to sell the hell out of it, but they are only slated for a certain amount of it from the manufacturer and given the crazy demand on ammo right now, getting a short-term surge in the supply isn't possible.



By the way, I just got back from my local Walmart here in Connecticut and I found over 2,000 rounds of Federal .223 value packs, plenty of .45, .357sig, .40 and a ton of 9mm value packs.  That being said, maybe Walmart is resupplying this stuff really fast and trying to cash in on the high demand, but you guys just live in higher demand areas.  Here in Connecticut, the gun counter at Walmart is often a lonely place.  



But hey, gay marriage is legal here, so at least we got that going for us...