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5/30/2015 6:10:15 PM EDT
https://vimeo.com/128373915

5/30/2015 6:19:07 PM EDT
[#1]
I don't know what to say
5/30/2015 6:23:54 PM EDT
[#2]
WWIII will be much bigger.
5/30/2015 6:25:39 PM EDT
[#3]
Only 3 minutes in......

5/30/2015 6:28:05 PM EDT
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God help us if there is WW III.  Write off almost everyone in every major city.
5/30/2015 6:29:18 PM EDT
[#5]
Neat
5/30/2015 6:43:33 PM EDT
[#6]
They attributed the Katyn Massacre to the Germans, so I'm wonder what else they screwed up.
5/30/2015 6:50:02 PM EDT
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The interactive mode is lacking.
5/30/2015 6:56:02 PM EDT
[#8]
That was cool, and sad at the same time
5/30/2015 7:04:52 PM EDT
[#9]
Very well done video.  Really puts things into perspective.
5/30/2015 7:21:49 PM EDT
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I'm on a tablet. Is the interactive chart linked on the page? I don't see it.
5/30/2015 7:23:13 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks
5/30/2015 7:24:30 PM EDT
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A lot. Canada isn't in the data in any way. While I like the video, and the interactive version is even better, the data feeding it is a little off
5/30/2015 7:26:20 PM EDT
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The number of deaths attributed to Stalin and Mao are at the lowest end of the estimates. The truth is Stalin might have killed 20,000,000 people or he might have killed 50,000,000 people.

Nobody knows.

Think on that.
5/30/2015 7:32:15 PM EDT
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I'm on a tablet. Is the interactive chart linked on the page? I don't see it.
http://www.fallen.io/ww2/  The interactive portion is not that great.



 
5/30/2015 7:34:39 PM EDT
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Also reveals something about communist countries that is likely to go right over the heads of those who dream for it.
5/30/2015 7:34:53 PM EDT
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Agreed
5/30/2015 7:52:07 PM EDT
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Very sad   and interesting.

Thank you for posting
5/30/2015 7:55:37 PM EDT
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The number of deaths attributed to Stalin and Mao are at the lowest end of the estimates. The truth is Stalin might have killed 20,000,000 people or he might have killed 50,000,000 people.

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They attributed the Katyn Massacre to the Germans, so I'm wonder what else they screwed up.

The number of deaths attributed to Stalin and Mao are at the lowest end of the estimates. The truth is Stalin might have killed 20,000,000 people or he might have killed 50,000,000 people.

Nobody knows.

Think on that.

Yes but this time we in America, with Obama's help, can do communism without that.  
5/30/2015 7:57:10 PM EDT
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5/30/2015 8:03:18 PM EDT
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They didn't attribute it to the Germans, they said that's a section of Polish military that died.
5/30/2015 8:07:06 PM EDT
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"half a million Nazis died at Stalingrad"

Click
5/30/2015 8:16:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Germany fared well till they decided to take on the Soviets.
5/30/2015 8:30:33 PM EDT
[#23]
I thought is was very good.

5/30/2015 8:37:04 PM EDT
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A lot. Canada isn't in the data in any way. While I like the video, and the interactive version is even better, the data feeding it is a little off
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A lot. Canada isn't in the data in any way. While I like the video, and the interactive version is even better, the data feeding it is a little off


Canada is included as a common wealth nation under the UK.
5/30/2015 8:40:24 PM EDT
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And that 70 million is using the conservative estimates....

No telling how many actually died on the Eastern Front. What a miserable place to fight and die.


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Note they didn't refer to the Soviet soldiers as "Communists".

5/30/2015 8:41:02 PM EDT
[#26]
I thank God everyday for the American WW2 GI.....they gave me peace.
5/30/2015 8:41:57 PM EDT
[#27]
Damn
5/30/2015 8:43:40 PM EDT
[#28]
Incredible visual way to show the numbers
5/30/2015 8:49:43 PM EDT
[#29]
Thanks for passing that along - well worth the watching.
5/30/2015 8:57:58 PM EDT
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Man, the Poles got hosed.

Didn't know how badly the Chinese got raped as well.

Geez.
5/30/2015 9:00:39 PM EDT
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5/30/2015 9:05:19 PM EDT
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Man, the Poles got hosed.

Didn't know how badly the Chinese got raped as well.

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Read "the rape of Nanking" and get ready to fight WWII again
5/30/2015 9:14:38 PM EDT
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Man, the Poles got hosed.

Didn't know how badly the Chinese got raped as well.

Geez.

Read "the rape of Nanking" and get ready to fight WWII again


"Flyboys" is another good one. Written by the same guy who wrote "Flags of Our Fathers" IIRC.
5/30/2015 9:16:05 PM EDT
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The next time anyone says the US beat the nazis, show them that video.   We helped.
5/30/2015 9:16:31 PM EDT
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WW3 is ongoing



 
5/30/2015 9:22:25 PM EDT
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Thanks!
5/30/2015 9:24:32 PM EDT
[#37]
Dam, of all the ones we lost in 10 years in  Astan, we lost the same amount on D Day, not to make light of loss, but dam

and the Russian, 8 mil, holy shit

mind boggling
5/30/2015 9:37:04 PM EDT
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5/30/2015 9:37:55 PM EDT
[#39]
Wow....even with the numbers being low end it still puts it in perspective.
5/30/2015 9:38:27 PM EDT
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it is the reason why fighting the smaller fight is so necessary.  



 
5/30/2015 9:39:24 PM EDT
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oh yeah...and 20 years prior to WWII, was WW1 which killed 37 million (according to wiki)
5/30/2015 9:40:15 PM EDT
[#42]
White people are crazy mofos.
5/30/2015 9:41:26 PM EDT
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Didn't realize how many the soviets lost. Considering how their gov runs though I'm not surprised.


The long peace we have enjoyed is destined to turn into the worst war the world has ever seen.
5/30/2015 9:41:42 PM EDT
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I didn't know about the immense post invasion Yugoslavian casualties, our history books don't say shit about it.  Anybody got a good book or resource on that?
5/30/2015 9:44:31 PM EDT
[#45]
As a visual learner that was staggering...

I didn't realize the Poles and Yugoslavians suffered to the degree they did.  Also can't comprehend the Chinese numbers.  

I'm left wondering how do you fight and defeat an enemy (Soviets and Chinese) who are willing to loose combined numbers that total ~1/3'd of our population?

(I've got an idea......let's degrade our nuclear arsenal..... )

Finally, the Great Peace seems to be the great take away.  Wonder why no one talks much about that? Can't make money off it I guess.

Thanks for posting OP.
5/30/2015 9:51:49 PM EDT
[#46]
Dear God.....
5/30/2015 9:52:55 PM EDT
[#47]
Damn.
5/30/2015 10:00:09 PM EDT
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They didn't attribute it to the Germans, they said that's a section of Polish military that died.
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They didn't attribute it to the Germans, they said that's a section of Polish military that died.


After claiming WWII started when Germany invaded Poland. No mention of the Soviets actually invading at the same time, or the fact that they were responsible for those deaths. They even highlighted that massacre when dividing up military deaths.



Look how many here just watched the vid and were unaware of the true numbers lost by the countries involved during the war, especially those in the east. The fact that the Soviets invaded Poland too, killed over 20,000 Polish military personal in a mass execution (one by one with a bullet to the head) in the Katyn Forest will be totally missed by those not familiar with it.



 
5/30/2015 10:23:00 PM EDT
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Wow.
5/30/2015 10:29:07 PM EDT
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After claiming WWII started when Germany invaded Poland. No mention of the Soviets actually invading at the same time, or the fact that they were responsible for those deaths. They even highlighted that massacre when dividing up military deaths.

Look how many here just watched the vid and were unaware of the true numbers lost by the countries involved during the war, especially those in the east. The fact that the Soviets invaded Poland too, killed over 20,000 Polish military personal in a mass execution (one by one with a bullet to the head) in the Katyn Forest will be totally missed by those not familiar with it.
 
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They attributed the Katyn Massacre to the Germans, so I'm wonder what else they screwed up.

They didn't attribute it to the Germans, they said that's a section of Polish military that died.

After claiming WWII started when Germany invaded Poland. No mention of the Soviets actually invading at the same time, or the fact that they were responsible for those deaths. They even highlighted that massacre when dividing up military deaths.

Look how many here just watched the vid and were unaware of the true numbers lost by the countries involved during the war, especially those in the east. The fact that the Soviets invaded Poland too, killed over 20,000 Polish military personal in a mass execution (one by one with a bullet to the head) in the Katyn Forest will be totally missed by those not familiar with it.
 

I understand where you're coming from. It's just poor communication on their part.
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