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Posted: 8/27/2018 1:10:36 PM EDT
https://www.droid-life.com/2018/08/27/verizon-will-give-first-responders-a-truly-unlimited-data-plan-with-no-caps/
Verizon is making changes to the data plans that first responders subscribe to following a story last week that showed the carrier limiting data speeds to fire fighters who were fighting wildfires. Going forward, Verizon claims that they will “refine” their service plan to better meet the needs of those in the public safety realm.

According to a statement released from Verizon just before the weekend, the wireless carrier has removed all speed cap restrictions for first responders on the west coast and in Hawaii. Should other disasters pop-up, they’ll continue to lift any restrictions for public safety customers.

In addition to those current fixes, Verizon says that they have a new service plan that will meet the “unique” needs of first responders. They didn’t reveal all details of that plan on Friday, but are expected to do so this week. The plan will at the very least feature (truly) unlimited data with no caps, plus it’ll get priority access to the network. If first responders want to upgrade to this new plan, Verizon says that they’ll make that easy to do at no additional cost.
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:13:21 PM EDT
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Seems like they have acknowledged a mistake/bad process and policy, revised it and gave the customer what they need/want.

In for the Verizon hate fest!
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:13:37 PM EDT
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Sounds like a need some first responder creds so i can use this sweet service for personal use.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:14:32 PM EDT
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I’m a first responder. I was there before EMS and police.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:16:05 PM EDT
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In before tow truck drivers
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:16:55 PM EDT
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This totally won't be used to download all the porn.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:18:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:23:38 PM EDT
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About time
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:31:03 PM EDT
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https://www.droid-life.com/2018/08/27/verizon-will-give-first-responders-a-truly-unlimited-data-plan-with-no-caps/
Verizon is making changes to the data plans that first responders subscribe to following a story last week that showed the carrier limiting data speeds to fire fighters who were fighting wildfires. Going forward, Verizon claims that they will “refine” their service plan to better meet the needs of those in the public safety realm.

According to a statement released from Verizon just before the weekend, the wireless carrier has removed all speed cap restrictions for first responders on the west coast and in Hawaii. Should other disasters pop-up, they’ll continue to lift any restrictions for public safety customers.

In addition to those current fixes, Verizon says that they have a new service plan that will meet the “unique” needs of first responders. They didn’t reveal all details of that plan on Friday, but are expected to do so this week. The plan will at the very least feature (truly) unlimited data with no caps, plus it’ll get priority access to the network. If first responders want to upgrade to this new plan, Verizon says that they’ll make that easy to do at no additional cost.
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No additional cost my ASS. They'll get their money out of us.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:32:36 PM EDT
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No additional cost my ASS. They'll get their money out of us.
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A plan like that should cost more money.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:34:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:37:55 PM EDT
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Great, now the bashers will be upset because we get better cell service too. Edit:  Too late, basher1 is already here.
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Not all of us get special CCW laws and cell phone service. Only the best government workers get that.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:40:27 PM EDT
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Great, now the bashers will be upset because we get better cell service too. Edit:  Too late, basher1 is already here.
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You sure are a sensitive sort.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:41:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:41:54 PM EDT
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The sjw shit just knows no bounds.  Sounds like someone screwed up when they signed a contract for a plan that wouldn’t fit their needs.  Of course it’s verizon’s fault.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:42:29 PM EDT
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Not all of us get special CCW laws and cell phone service. Only the best government workers get that.
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Great, now the bashers will be upset because we get better cell service too. Edit:  Too late, basher1 is already here.
Not all of us get special CCW laws and cell phone service. Only the best government workers get that.
Feel free to tell a private company that you don't like the deals they give people.

Something something free market...
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:42:39 PM EDT
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The sjw shit just knows no bounds.  Sounds like someone screwed up when they signed a contract for a plan that wouldn’t fit their needs.  Of course it’s verizon’s fault.
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How is this an SJW issue?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:47:47 PM EDT
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Yet you knew instantly who was being referred to.
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You sure are a sensitive sort.
Yet you knew instantly who was being referred to.
Actually I made a generic statement about how emotional you are.

This “outrage” was because a fire department’s official hot spot was throttled in accordance with the cheap plan they chose.  They could have instantly switched it to a more costly unlimited plan but decided that social outrage was the better course of action.  Its just government being shitty but you decide to get personally offended by it.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:48:36 PM EDT
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Feel free to tell a private company that you don't like the deals they give people.

Something something free market...
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I wonder how much money Verizon gets from the government.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:51:23 PM EDT
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Sounds like a need some first responder creds so i can use this sweet service for personal use.
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+1
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:53:59 PM EDT
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Not all of us get special CCW laws and cell phone service. Only the best government workers get that.
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Yeah but you get to leave the Applebee's kitchen at the same time every day and you never have to run into any burning buildings or get shot at.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:54:09 PM EDT
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There you go demanding higher local taxes and spending again.  Have you ever seen local spending you didn't like?
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This service won’t cost more?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:55:42 PM EDT
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There you go demanding higher local taxes and spending again.  Have you ever seen local spending you didn't like?
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Actually I made a generic statement about how emotional you are.

This “outrage” was because a fire department’s official hot spot was throttled in accordance with the cheap plan they chose.  They could have instantly switched it to a more costly unlimited plan but decided that social outrage was the better course of action.  Its just government being shitty but you decide to get personally offended by it.
There you go demanding higher local taxes and spending again.  Have you ever seen local spending you didn't like?
Verizon passing on the costs of government use of their services to actual paying customers is an unethical bypass of representative taxation.

Someone is paying for your services. It is only ethical if the public knows who, how, and can consent.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:56:19 PM EDT
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I wonder how much money Verizon gets from the government.
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Feel free to tell a private company that you don't like the deals they give people.

Something something free market...
I wonder how much money Verizon gets from the government.
I think they realized they could be getting more and this is the first piece they put into play. The more expensive .gov everything plan will come out later.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:57:06 PM EDT
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Yeah but you get to leave the Applebee's kitchen at the same time every day and you never have to run into any burning buildings or get shot at.
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What does burning buildings and getting shot at have to do with anything?

Who works at Applebee’s?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:57:43 PM EDT
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There you go demanding higher local taxes and spending again.  Have you ever seen local spending you didn't like?
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Actually I made a generic statement about how emotional you are.

This “outrage” was because a fire department’s official hot spot was throttled in accordance with the cheap plan they chose.  They could have instantly switched it to a more costly unlimited plan but decided that social outrage was the better course of action.  Its just government being shitty but you decide to get personally offended by it.
There you go demanding higher local taxes and spending again.  Have you ever seen local spending you didn't like?


The government shouldn’t pay for the services that it consumes?

If this service doesn’t have a value then why don’t they give it to everyone?  Or is this just another example of “other people” should pay for shit for your agency and/or you?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 1:58:06 PM EDT
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Double plus unlimited.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:00:08 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:01:00 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:02:33 PM EDT
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I expect the taxpayers to cover the cost of doing their business.  If a company is willing to charge the taxpayers less for their services I'm all for it.  Did you know that some gun companies even charge both government entities and individual officers less for their products than they charge the general public????
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Worked out well for Colt.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:03:25 PM EDT
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Why do cops and firemen need internet in the first place? Serious question.

ETA: I don't mean dispatch, I mean like on their phones.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:04:21 PM EDT
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Double plus unlimited.
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Now they won't get throttled because station chief blew through their 25gigs on his overnight 3 day into the billing cycle.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:05:06 PM EDT
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I expect the taxpayers to cover the cost of doing their business.  If a company is willing to charge the taxpayers less for their services I'm all for it.  Did you know that some gun companies even charge both government entities and individual officers less for their products than they charge the general public????
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The government shouldn’t pay for the services that it consumes?

If this service doesn’t have a value then why don’t they give it to everyone?  Or is this just another example of “other people” should pay for shit for your agency and/or you?
I expect the taxpayers to cover the cost of doing their business.  If a company is willing to charge the taxpayers less for their services I'm all for it.  Did you know that some gun companies even charge both government entities and individual officers less for their products than they charge the general public????
The company wasn’t “willing” to do this until a department went crying to the media that their cheap plan wasn’t the same as an expensive plan.  So they were coerced to by low information readers that were offended by the fact that a private company would do such terrible business practices as only giving people what they pay for.  So now they are going overboard virtual signaling.  The free market in action indeed.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:05:55 PM EDT
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How do you think those MDTs communicate with each other and the center???
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Radio
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:06:41 PM EDT
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Why do cops and firemen need internet in the first place? Serious question.

ETA: I don't mean dispatch, I mean like on their phones.
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Communications, dispatch, records access, navigation/mapping, information sharing...
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:06:44 PM EDT
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Is it a available to off duty LEOs?



Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:07:03 PM EDT
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How do you think those MDTs communicate with each other and the center???
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Cellular data for the most part.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:08:38 PM EDT
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How do you think those MDTs communicate with each other and the center???
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Why do cops and firemen need internet in the first place? Serious question.
How do you think those MDTs communicate with each other and the center???
Ours used the county’s 800mhz system.

That said there are data needs at the incident command post.  But every truck and firefighter doesn’t need unlimited data on their personal phone.  Hell, our city phones for the fire officer were flip phones.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:09:16 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules.

Are they going to call it the Snowflake plan?
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:10:39 PM EDT
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Ours used the county's 800mhz system.

That said there are data needs at the incident command post.  But every truck and firefighter doesn't need unlimited data on their personal phone.  Hell, our city phones for the fire officer were flip phones.
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This is how it works here.
Agree on the second part.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:11:45 PM EDT
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Why do cops and firemen need internet in the first place? Serious question.

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@ApacheScout

The issue came up when a department was trying to track weather real time while their firefighters were in remote areas.  They needed accurate up to date weather information.  They also needed it to provide accurate up to date information to the public about evacuations etc.  They didn't get it due to throttling of speeds.

It's a perfect example of why they need data service that is fast and reliable.

However they should have thought about that when they signed their contract.  Which is why its an FSA/SJW/whatever issue.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:14:36 PM EDT
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Verizon - I have an unlimited plan.  I will pay you MORE MONEY to have no throttling with an actual unlimited plan.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:15:30 PM EDT
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@ApacheScout

The issue came up when a department was trying to track weather real time while their firefighters were in remote areas.  They needed accurate up to date weather information.  They also needed it to provide accurate up to date information to the public about evacuations etc.  They didn't get it due to throttling of speeds.

It's a perfect example of why they need data service that is fast and reliable.

However they should have thought about that when they signed their contract.  Which is why its an FSA/SJW/whatever issue.
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Why do cops and firemen need internet in the first place? Serious question.

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@ApacheScout

The issue came up when a department was trying to track weather real time while their firefighters were in remote areas.  They needed accurate up to date weather information.  They also needed it to provide accurate up to date information to the public about evacuations etc.  They didn't get it due to throttling of speeds.

It's a perfect example of why they need data service that is fast and reliable.

However they should have thought about that when they signed their contract.  Which is why its an FSA/SJW/whatever issue.
Ahhh. Thank you!
I saw a blurb on the news over the weekend but they never explained why the EMS were complaining. It sounded like they just wanted it as some kind of perk. I even commented to my Mom that the news didn't explain why they needed it.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:16:05 PM EDT
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they wouldnt be able to do this with NN as I bet theyd get sued for not doing it for everyone.
Link Posted: 8/27/2018 2:16:54 PM EDT
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Great, now the bashers will be upset because we get better cell service too. Edit:  Too late, basher1 is already here.
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It's not fair!!!!!
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