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Posted: 4/23/2014 4:32:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/23/2014 4:57:56 PM EDT by 1999cutiger]
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They are flying in snow, I can't see them.
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[Last Edit: 4/23/2014 4:37:36 PM EDT by capnrob97]
"I don't know but I've been told...

Navy wings are made of gold"

"I don't know but it's been said..

Air Force wings are made of lead"

I remember that from 'Officer and a Gentleman'
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 4:36:03 PM EDT
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IN before naval aviation porn.

ETA: my buddy gets me some cool video but they are all on disc and posting to internet strictly verboten.
In 20 plus years, I might post them.

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Originally Posted By Aeain:
They are flying in snow, I can't see them.
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sheesh, that's a cloud, not snow.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 4:37:21 PM EDT
What happened... Safe thread?
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New cloaking device! Russkies go nuttin fer dat!
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Originally Posted By chooch:
New cloaking device! Russkies go nuttin fer dat!
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Right answer. They can defeat our Aegis, but we have a cloaking device that kicks arse.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 4:55:47 PM EDT
Enjoy.

The Chair Force tears should be epic...
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I spy a MiG-29 in formation at 2:37 and some other spots

Indian Navy maybe? Germany?

Anyways, awesome stuff. Super bug FTW
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Originally Posted By Haub:
I spy a MiG-29 in formation at 2:37 and some other spots

Indian Navy maybe? Germany?

Anyways, awesome stuff. Super bug FTW
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Look like some kinda SU-27 variant.

Germany got rid of their 29's a few years back, kept one in Laage for display but the rest went to Poland.
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Look like some kinda SU-27 variant.

Germany got rid of their 29's a few years back, kept one in Laage for display but the rest went to Poland.
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Originally Posted By Haub:
I spy a MiG-29 in formation at 2:37 and some other spots

Indian Navy maybe? Germany?

Anyways, awesome stuff. Super bug FTW


Look like some kinda SU-27 variant.

Germany got rid of their 29's a few years back, kept one in Laage for display but the rest went to Poland.


Ah you're right, I just noticed the tail tunnel and engines
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We Land on Moving Runways



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[Advanced Super Hornet Intensifies]

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[Advanced Super Hornet Intensifies]

http://www.airforcesmonthly.com/central/images/gallery/7125.jpg
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Block 3
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Bob Norris is a former Naval aviator who also did a 3 year exchange tour flying the F-15 Eagle. He is now an accomplished author of entertaining books about US Naval Aviation including "Check Six" and "Fly-Off". Check out his web site at his web site. Click Here. In response to a letter from an aspiring fighter pilot on which military academy to attend, Bob replied with the following.

12 Feb 04

Young Man,

Congratulations on your selection to both the Naval and Air Force Academies. Your goal of becoming a fighter pilot is impressive and a fine way to serve your country. As you requested, I'd be happy to share some insight into which service would be the best choice. Each service has a distinctly different culture. You need to ask yourself "Which one am I more likely to thrive in?"

USAF Snapshot: The USAF is exceptionally well organized and well run. Their training programs are terrific. All pilots are groomed to meet high standards for knowledge and professionalism. Their aircraft are top-notch and extremely well maintained. Their facilities are excellent. Their enlisted personnel are the brightest and the best trained. The USAF is homogenous and macro. No matter where you go, you'll know what to expect, what is expected of you, and you'll be given the training & tools you need to meet those expectations. You will never be put in a situation over your head. Over a 20-year career, you will be home for most important family events. Your Mom would want you to be an Air Force pilot...so would your wife. Your Dad would want your sister to marry one.

Navy Snapshot: Aviators are part of the Navy, but so are Black shoes (surface warfare) and bubble heads (submariners). Furthermore, the Navy is split into two distinctly different Fleets (West and East Coast). The Navy is heterogeneous and micro. Your squadron is your home; it may be great, average, or awful. A squadron can go from one extreme to the other before you know it. You will spend months preparing for cruise and months on cruise. The quality of the aircraft varies directly with the availability of parts. Senior Navy enlisted are salt of the earth; you'll be proud if you earn their respect. Junior enlisted vary from terrific to the troubled kid the judge made join the service. You will be given the opportunity to lead these people during your career; you will be humbled and get your hands dirty. The quality of your training will vary and sometimes you will be over your head. You will miss many important family events. There will be long stretches of tedious duty aboard ship. You will fly in very bad weather and/or at night and you will be scared many times. You will fly with legends in the Navy and they will kick your ass until you become a lethal force. And some days - when the scheduling Gods have smiled upon you - your jet will catapult into a glorious morning over a far-away sea and you will be drop-jawed that someone would pay you to do it. The hottest girl in the bar wants to meet the Naval Aviator. That bar is in Singapore.

Bottom line, son, if you gotta ask...pack warm & good luck in Colorado.

Banzai

PS Air Force pilots wear scarves and iron their flight suits.
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Originally Posted By capnrob97:
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Navy wings are made of gold"

"I don't know but it's been said..

Air Force wings are made of lead"

I remember that from 'Officer and a Gentleman'
I remember that from Aircrew Candidate School.... 1986
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 5:59:34 PM EDT
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Ah you're right, I just noticed the tail tunnel and engines
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Originally Posted By Der_Hans:
Originally Posted By Haub:
I spy a MiG-29 in formation at 2:37 and some other spots

Indian Navy maybe? Germany?

Anyways, awesome stuff. Super bug FTW


Look like some kinda SU-27 variant.

Germany got rid of their 29's a few years back, kept one in Laage for display but the rest went to Poland.


Ah you're right, I just noticed the tail tunnel and engines


Yep, same "Flanker" family. I'm betting its the Su-30.


Link Posted: 4/23/2014 6:01:04 PM EDT
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.
Link Posted: 4/23/2014 6:02:59 PM EDT
I refuse to play that "Let's bash one service in favor of the other" game that seems to be so popular among some arfcommers.


If you get paid to fly, you're one of the lucky ones. Doesn't matter which service you're in. If you're flying any fighter, you WON.
And you'll most likely have an interesting and enjoyable career that will write some great stories for you to tell to your buddies
and your descendants.


Naval Aviators have to learn one skill set that their Air Force brethren don't have to learn: The fine art of the carefully executed
controlled crash on a moving ship in a moving ocean, called a "trap". But only a fool would think that any good AF pilot would
not be able to learn to do that if put through the same training.

It's foolish in the extreme to say "This guy's better than that guy because he knows how to land on a carrier" when the second guy
was never even asked to learn that same skill, but probably could do so as well as the first guy.

I have admiration and respect for both. As you should, too.

In either service, if the pilot doesn't become an effective weapon within a reasonable period of time, he'll get washed out and
may end up flying non combat aircraft. So you may assume that any seasoned fighter pilot in either service has done all right. He's a warrior,
capable of bringing much pain and suffering to the enemy. There's no need to think that one group of pilots is going to be any better or worse
than their fellow aviators in the other service.

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I love drinking beer and watching these videos. to the pilots.
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Pop did some Naval aviating

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That was neat flying with the SU-27 / SU-35
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I refuse to play that "Let's bash one service in favor of the other" game that seems to be so popular among some arfcommers.


If you get paid to fly, you're one of the lucky ones. Doesn't matter which service you're in. If you're flying any fighter, you WON.
And you'll most likely have an interesting and enjoyable career that will write some great stories for you to tell to your buddies
and your descendants.


Naval Aviators have to learn one skill set that their Air Force brethren don't have to learn: The fine art of the carefully executed
controlled crash on a moving ship in a moving ocean, called a "trap". But only a fool would think that any good AF pilot would
not be able to learn to do that if put through the same training.

It's foolish in the extreme to say "This guy's better than that guy because he knows how to land on a carrier" when the second guy
was never even asked to learn that same skill, but probably could do so as well as the first guy.

I have admiration and respect for both. As you should, too.

In either service, if the pilot doesn't become an effective weapon within a reasonable period of time, he'll get washed out and
may end up flying non combat aircraft. So you may assume that any seasoned fighter pilot in either service has done all right. He's a warrior,
capable of bringing much pain and suffering to the enemy. There's no need to think that one group of pilots is going to be any better or worse
than their fellow aviators in the other service.





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One group chose to learn a more difficult skill set, the other group chose not to.

Because they made this choice and learned these skills...it makes them better at what they do.

Better.



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Originally Posted By ordkhntr:
Navy wings are made of gold"

"I don't know but it's been said..

Air Force wings are made of lead"

I remember that from 'Officer and a Gentleman'

I remember that from Aircrew Candidate School.... 1986
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Originally Posted By ordkhntr:
Originally Posted By capnrob97:
"I don't know but I've been told...
Navy wings are made of gold"

"I don't know but it's been said..

Air Force wings are made of lead"

I remember that from 'Officer and a Gentleman'

I remember that from Aircrew Candidate School.... 1986

NACCS 1983
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Screw that. I'd rather be flying a heavy or a helo.



Whats the paint scheme?



Find the shark:

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SSHWFGD!!!

(Ssh! We're fucking gay, dudes!)
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The World Famous Golden Dragons (featured in The Bridges at Toko Ri). I worked with them when they had A7's, back in the early 80's.
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Originally Posted By dport:
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Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer
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Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer
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Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer

If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.
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If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.
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Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer

If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.


Or spaghetti sans silverware

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Or spaghetti sans silverware
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Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.

Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer

If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.

Or spaghetti sans silverware


If you flew proper Naval aircraft (like P-3's, C-130's, E-6's) you would have your plastic splork in your shoulder pen pocket.

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Or spaghetti sans silverware

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Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer

If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.


Or spaghetti sans silverware


Suck it up, Lady and the Tramp style.
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Suck it up, Lady and the Tramp style.
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Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By dport:
Originally Posted By H46Driver:
Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


Shaddup and give me a box lunch and a steer

If you're nice, we'll even include a cookie in the boxed lunch. If you're not nice, the boxed lunch will be soup.


Or spaghetti sans silverware


Suck it up, Lady and the Tramp style.


I'm sure that's what you do when on water hours.
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I thought they hauled the laundry and booze.

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Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


I thought they hauled the laundry and booze.



Booze yes

Laundry no
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Water hours? No. I've either been on ships with snipes worth a damn or on ships with reverse osmosis.
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I thought they hauled the laundry and booze.

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Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


I thought they hauled the laundry and booze.




Beer run

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Booze yes

Laundry no
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Originally Posted By dport:
I love naval aviation. They bring me my mail.


I thought they hauled the laundry and booze.



Booze yes

Laundry no


Don't forget the rubber dog shit out of Hong Kong.
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Originally Posted By cmjohnson:
I refuse to play that "Let's bash one service in favor of the other" game that seems to be so popular among some arfcommers.


If you get paid to fly, you're one of the lucky ones. Doesn't matter which service you're in. If you're flying any fighter, you WON.
And you'll most likely have an interesting and enjoyable career that will write some great stories for you to tell to your buddies
and your descendants.


Naval Aviators have to learn one skill set that their Air Force brethren don't have to learn: The fine art of the carefully executed
controlled crash on a moving ship in a moving ocean, called a "trap". But only a fool would think that any good AF pilot would
not be able to learn to do that if put through the same training.

It's foolish in the extreme to say "This guy's better than that guy because he knows how to land on a carrier" when the second guy
was never even asked to learn that same skill, but probably could do so as well as the first guy.

I have admiration and respect for both. As you should, too.

In either service, if the pilot doesn't become an effective weapon within a reasonable period of time, he'll get washed out and
may end up flying non combat aircraft. So you may assume that any seasoned fighter pilot in either service has done all right. He's a warrior,
capable of bringing much pain and suffering to the enemy. There's no need to think that one group of pilots is going to be any better or worse
than their fellow aviators in the other service.


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As someone else posted, one group CHOSE to take the harder path, that's what makes them better.

Also, the good natured (most times) ribbing between the other services Aviation branches and the Air Force goes back to Army Air Corps policies during WWII. Air Corps pilots were rotated home after 50 combat sorties, where the Navy and Marine Aviators kept on plugging, day after day, engagement after engagement. That led to an understandable amount of rancor between the three.

And then there was the abortion called the 1948 Key West Agreement, and the Navy and Marine Corps' assisting the Army in ways to get around the Air Force's refusal to let Army Aviation arm it's aircraft.
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Can any aviation vids be made without that shit*y Sail song?
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My grandfather, 1942 Dutch Harbor.
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