Posted: 6/20/2013 6:45:06 PM EDT
| I cross trained out of Fire Protection and into another AFSC, I graduate in a weeks time. Are duty badges still authorized on your service dress? I'm under the impression Security Forces has to take their badge off when cross trained as they are no longer functioning in LEO capacity and you "hand your badge in". Because a fire fighter doesn't have any real legal capacity, does he still have to turn his badge in as well? |
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10.3.14. Civil Engineering. Fire Protection shield is worn while performing fire protection duties. Continue to wear while attending PME and performing recruiter duties. OPR is AF/A7C.
Oh well, my new AFSC yields a beret and a bunch of badges from Army schools. I'll need the real estate. |
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I'm pretty sure if you're not a basement saver anymore you can't wear the badge anymore. I know for the cops can keep wearing the badge if they go to do special duty like recruiting or mail clerk. But the minute you retrain you might as well buy new ABU's because you'll have that shadow on your pocket.
We don't really make anyone turn their badge in unless they really fucked up and all it usually means is you get handed a razor or seam ripper and take the patch off right there with the Commander. When a friend of mine left to retrain we just said "See ya." No one really chased him down for his badge. Then when I saw him a few years later I gave him shit for looking like an admin puke. |
| I left USAF active duty in 1988 and no one took my Security Police badge from me. We wore two badges, one for the training to be in the Security Police that is an eagle with wreaths on each wing above the left breast pocket and the the big badge worn under that flap of the same pocket. Technically we were only supposed to wear the larger badge while actively serving as a Law Enforcement Specialialist and or a Security Specialist. Mine is right where I left it on my dress blue uniform in 1988. |
| Fire Protection has the badge but not the occupational badge that's worn over the ribbon's right? I know you can wear up tp two 5/7 level badges over your ribbons but yeah the actual badge, that now that I think about it, is fuzzy. While on MTL duty I worked with a MSgt that had come out of missiles, had a 7 level MX badge, and wore his blue rope. Safe bet is to leave it off but I'd be calling an old Supervisor, First Shirt, or Chief that is still in Fire and get their opinion. I wouldn't take off my 7 level supply badge if I had retrained, I don't think you should pull your badge, either. |
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TACP? Affirmative. I graduated this week and was trying to square away my blues. FYI, it's a legit school, only 7 stood strong, 82% of my original class fell by the wayside...  Active, guard, or reserve? reserve TACP doesnt exist; only guard |
| Had a Fire Protection guy that I worked with as an FM (Missile Alert Facility Manager). He kept his badge while doing the special duty assignment for 5 years. Not really a cross-training requirement, just a special duty minimum 4yr controlled tour. We did test PFE only though. |
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Where is a TACP slot or unit close to VA? The reserve and guard websites aren't exactly easy to search for specific jobs. There is a search function on MyPERS with unit vacancies. I forget how to get there off hand, but you should be able to root around and find it. |
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Had a Fire Protection guy that I worked with as an FM (Missile Alert Facility Manager). He kept his badge while doing the special duty assignment for 5 years. Not really a cross-training requirement, just a special duty minimum 4yr controlled tour. We did test PFE only though. How was the work as MFM? |
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Had a Fire Protection guy that I worked with as an FM (Missile Alert Facility Manager). He kept his badge while doing the special duty assignment for 5 years. Not really a cross-training requirement, just a special duty minimum 4yr controlled tour. We did test PFE only though. How was the work as MFM? I liked it. We worked a 4 on 5 off schedule. 4 days in the field; I.e. Monday morning-Thursday afternoon. Friday-Tuesday off. By off I mean grow a beard, visit Vegas, camping off. Can get kind of boring at times if you can't find something to keep you occupied. You keep the place in good working order, do simple self help projects to improve the looks, fix basic issues, etc. You are also responsible for ensuring the systems topside and below ground are working correctly. If there is something you can fix or figure out you call in a CE or COMM workorder. A lot of folks do like I did and retire out of the FM Special Duty. It's like any other assignment, its only as good as you make it. Some guys will do it for four years, go back to their real AFSC for a couple, then come back to the FM job. Its a four year controlled, with the option of two, one year, extensions. At least that's the way it was. |
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I liked it. We worked a 4 on 5 off schedule. 4 days in the field; I.e. Monday morning-Thursday afternoon. Friday-Tuesday off. By off I mean grow a beard, visit Vegas, camping off. Can get kind of boring at times if you can't find something to keep you occupied. You keep the place in good working order, do simple self help projects to improve the looks, fix basic issues, etc. You are also responsible for ensuring the systems topside and below ground are working correctly. If there is something you can fix or figure out you call in a CE or COMM workorder. A lot of folks do like I did and retire out of the FM Special Duty. It's like any other assignment, its only as good as you make it. Some guys will do it for four years, go back to their real AFSC for a couple, then come back to the FM job. Its a four year controlled, with the option of two, one year, extensions. At least that's the way it was. Quoted:
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Had a Fire Protection guy that I worked with as an FM (Missile Alert Facility Manager). He kept his badge while doing the special duty assignment for 5 years. Not really a cross-training requirement, just a special duty minimum 4yr controlled tour. We did test PFE only though. How was the work as MFM? I liked it. We worked a 4 on 5 off schedule. 4 days in the field; I.e. Monday morning-Thursday afternoon. Friday-Tuesday off. By off I mean grow a beard, visit Vegas, camping off. Can get kind of boring at times if you can't find something to keep you occupied. You keep the place in good working order, do simple self help projects to improve the looks, fix basic issues, etc. You are also responsible for ensuring the systems topside and below ground are working correctly. If there is something you can fix or figure out you call in a CE or COMM workorder. A lot of folks do like I did and retire out of the FM Special Duty. It's like any other assignment, its only as good as you make it. Some guys will do it for four years, go back to their real AFSC for a couple, then come back to the FM job. Its a four year controlled, with the option of two, one year, extensions. At least that's the way it was. When you say "4 on 5 off" are you talking, live at the facility or work a 12 then head home type? |
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Affirmative. I graduated this week and was trying to square away my blues. FYI, it's a legit school, only 7 stood strong, 82% of my original class fell by the wayside... Quoted:
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TACP? Affirmative. I graduated this week and was trying to square away my blues. FYI, it's a legit school, only 7 stood strong, 82% of my original class fell by the wayside... Congrats on getting your beret. |