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Posted: 8/31/2004 4:17:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2004 4:18:36 AM EST by renotse]
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August 31, 2004 -- A cop was in serious condition with head injuries today after he was knocked off his scooter and stomped by protestors at an illegal march, police said.

Several thousand people took part in the march — conducted without a permit by the group Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign — which started at the United Nations, then moved south on Second Avenue, west on 23rd Street and back uptown on Eighth Avenue.

The violence happened at 30th Street and Eighth Avenue, where police barricades were set up to protect Madison Square Garden.

Police spokesman Paul Browne, who saw what happened, said that after protesters knocked the officer off the scooter, they "kicked and punched" him.

The cop was in serious condition at St. Vincent's Hospital.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 4:40:33 AM EST
Damnit....it's too bad the police can't start busting heads up there.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 4:44:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By M4arc:
Damnit....it's too bad the police can't start busting heads up there.



It was an illegal march and they assulted a cop, fuck busting heads they should have been bustin' caps.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 4:46:45 AM EST
Never, and I mean never , mess with poor people.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 4:56:19 AM EST
Trouble is, there's no such thing as an illegal march.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:00:41 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Trouble is, there's no such thing as an illegal march.



True.

On the other hand if they are attacking the police it's actually a riot, and those are illegal!
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:03:45 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:04:44 AM EST
Aarchist attack VIDEO (link)

Anarchist attack a small group of BUSH supporters
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:06:19 AM EST
Originally Posted By renotse:
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the group Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign —

I guess they really take human rights seriously.....
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:07:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By M4arc:
Damnit....it's too bad the police can't start busting heads up there.



It was an illegal march and they assulted a cop, fuck busting heads they should have been bustin' caps.



The problem is once the cops start busting heads the city will get slammed with lawsuits. And not just from those that received the head busting...our old friends at the ACLU will come down on them too. In our PC society it's okay to injury a cop but not okay to administer an ass whipping on a criminal.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:08:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Trouble is, there's no such thing as an illegal march.



True.

On the other hand if they are attacking the police it's actually a riot, and those are illegal!



Yes there is, for saftey(of marchers and non marchers) reasons and to better manage what is going on in the city for the benifit of all the citizens it is required that you obtain a permit to march, they did not do this. They than went and assaulted an officer of the law. Now I'm not one to agree with it(the need for a permit), but at the same time because it is for safety as well, I'm a little more inclined to put up with it. The other thing is that the 1st amendment gives us the right to Peaceably assemble. When you assault somone regardless of if it's a police officer or a bush supporter() you are no longer peaceably assembled and thus are not protected by the 1st amendment.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:10:30 AM EST
welp, here's their website:

http://www.economichumanrights.org/

and here is their member list:


MEMBERS OF PPEHRC

Alabama Arise
Alexandria United Taxi Drivers Association (Alexandria, VA)
Alternatives for Developing Change (Chico, CA)
Arise for Social Justice (Springfield, MA)
Arnold Mirales Human Rights Project (Chicago, IL)
Big Creek People in Action (Caretta, WV)
By the Homeless, for the Homeless (St. Petersburg, FL)
California Poor People's Economic Human Rights Campaign Committees
Center for Economic and Social Rights (New York, NY)
Centro de Trabajadores Agriculas (El Paso, TX)
Coalition of Immokalee Workers (Immokalee, FL)
Coalition to Protect Public Housing (Chicago, IL)
Community Homeless Alliance Ministry (San Jose, CA)
Deaf and Deaf-Blind Committee for Human Rights (Lorain, OH)
Delaware Housing Coalition (Dover, DE)
Direct Action Welfare Group (Charleston, WV)
Domestic Workers (Los Angeles, CA)
The Employment Project (New York, NY)
Friends & Residents of Arthur Capper and Carrollsburg (Washington, DC)
Georgia Human Rights Union/Project South (Atlanta, GA)
Human Rights Tech (Philadelphia, PA)
Idahoans Struggling in Solidarity (Boise, ID)
Independent Media Center-Philadelphia (PA)
Jesus People Against Pollution (Columbia, MS)
JEDI for Women (Salt Lake City, UT)
Kensington Welfare Rights Union
La Mujer Obrera (El Paso, TX)
Lifetime (Oakland, CA)
Loring Nicolett Alternative School (Minneapolis, MN)
Louisiana Injured Workers (New Orleans, LA)
Massachusetts Welfare Rights Union (Mattapan, MA)
Michigan Welfare Rights Organization (Detroit, MI)
Mid-South Peace & Justice Center (Memphis, TN)
Mormons for Equality and Social Justice (Salt Lake City, UT)
National Welfare Rights Union
New Jersey STEPS
New Jerusalem (Philadelphia, PA)
New Labor (NJ)
North Carolina Farmworkers Project
Organizer's Learning Center (IL)
Organize! Ohiowww.organizeohio.org
People Organized to Win Employment Rights (San Francisco, CA)
Poor Voices United (Atlantic City, NJ)
Portland Organization to Win Economic Rights (Portland, ME)
Rochester Poor People’s Coalition (Rochester, NY)
Rochester Poor People United (Rochester, NY)
Rock A Mole Productions (Los Angeles, CA)
The Simple Way (Philadelphia, PA)
Sisters Together Ending Poverty (Boston, MA)
Skylight Pictures (New York, NY)
Social Welfare Action Alliance (national)
Southerners for Economic Justice (Durham, NC)
Stand for Our Neighbors (Washington, DC)
Tampa Bay Action Group (St Petersburg, FL)
TRASA (Salt Lake City, UT)
UNC Housekeepers Union (Chapel Hill, NC)
United Workers Association (Baltimore, MD)
U.S – El Salvador Sister Cities
Voices of Illinois Poor People (Dekalb, IL)
West Virginia Listening Project (WV)
Women’s Project (Little Rock, AR)
Women’s Economic Agenda Project (Oakland, CA)
Women in Transition (Louisville, KY)
Youth Action Research Group (Washington, DC)


PPERHC Coordinating Committee Members
Amity Condie, MESJ
Ethel Long-Scott, WEAP
Bonnie Macri, JEDI
Louise Morales, Rochester Poor People's Coalition
Cecilia Perry, PPEHRC legal committee
Galen Tyler, KWRU
Heather West, DDBCHR
Stephanie Zeitz, LNAS

PPEHRC National Committee Members
Glenda Adams, Poor Voices United
Lucas Benitez, CIW
Larry Bresler, Organize! Ohio
Mary Bricker-Jenkins, SWAA
Chris Caruso, Human Rights Tech
Todd Cherkis, United Workers Association
Amity Condie, MESJ
Evelyn Dortch, DAWG
Sarah Frohock, Alternatives for Developing Change
Jim Goronson, US-El Salvador Sister Cities
Dana Hardy, Idahoans Struggling in Solidarity
Jennifer Jewell, Women in Transition
Charles Kellum, Rochester PPU
Ethel Long-Scott, WEAP
Bonnie Macri, JEDI
Sister Margaret McKenna, New Jerusalem
Louise Morales, Rochester Poor People’s Coalition
Cecelia Perry, PPEHRC Legal Committee
Sandy Perry, CHAM
Dotty Stevens, MWRU
Galen Tyler, KWRU
Jesse Vear, POWER - ME
Heather West, DDBCHR
Rev. Bruce Wright, By the Homeless, for the Homeless
Stephanie Zeitz, LNAS

PPEHRC Staff
Cheri Honkala, National Coordinator
Willie Baptist, University of the Poor Co-Coordinator
Liz Theoharis, University of the Poor Co-Coordinator
Cary Beckwith, Administrator
Sara Forgione, Assistant to the National Coordinator
Samantha Heller, Press and Media
Gael Abary, Art and Culture

PPEHRC Legal Committee
Catherine Albisa
Willie Baptist, PPEHRC
Jonathan Blazer, American Friends Service Committee
Bob Brown, PPEHRC
Rhonda Copelon, IWHR Law Clinic, CUNY Law School
Cecilia Garza, KWRU/PPEHRC
Jeff Fogel, Center for Constitutional Rights
Jennie Green, Center for Constitutional Rights
CCR Ella Baker Fellows, Ralph Bunche, Jason Cade
Noah Leavitt, Jewish Center for Urban Affairs/CPPH
Cecilia Perry, AFSCME
James Pfluecke, Coalition to Protect Public Housing, Chicago
Rafi Rom, Community Legal Services
Cynthia Sooho, HRI, Columbia Law School
Galen Tyler, KWRU/PPEHRC
Peter Weiss, Center for Constitutional Rights
Sarah Saidi, CESR



and here is their press release on commondreams.org (didn't that website show up for another lefty yesterday?)

http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0817-03.htm

they seem to like the UN...

http://www.economichumanrights.org/about/about.html

"we have a RIGHT to the fruits of your labours, specifically YOUR MONEY" opps, they don't come out and say that quite so bluntly...

lazy-asses
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Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:39:11 AM EST
[Last Edit: 8/31/2004 5:40:16 AM EST by photoman]

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Hope he sues the crap out of the March organizers and the A-31 activists-maybe there's a Rico suit in there. the Southern Poverty Law Center basically dismantled the Klu Klux Klan that way, it'd be nice to see some of these punks pursued the same way.



I heard they got ranch rescue too. Don't know who true that is but I know the SPLC had something to do with Ranch Rescue not doing somethings a couple months back. I doubt the SPLC would do anything to this group as they seem to have a lot of immigrant(for helping illegals at that) groups listed on their site
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:49:17 AM EST
Notice how all the violence goes one way. The libs and commie pinkos are violent to anyone who disagrees. Yet we are the intolerant facists?

Hardly.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:50:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By thelibertarian:
Trouble is, there's no such thing as an illegal march.

yes, there is.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 5:56:31 AM EST
Well I'm very sorry to see a cop was hurt, but on the bright side, I'd hope the NYPD has unofficially declared open season with no bag limit on protestors. My congratulations to the protestors; you likely just disturbed a nest of 10,000 blue hornets. I hope they show you all the same courtesy the cop last night experienced.

Whats almost as disturbing is that there are reports of individual delagates being singled out, followed, and verbally and physically assulted by these assholes. The protestors apparently know what hotels the delagates are staying in and have them staked out so whenever a delagate leaves the hotel the protestors hook up by cell and text messaging to get groups to harrass the delagates as they go about their business going to restaurants, shows, sightseeing, and going to the convention.

FWIW, I think the real hippie whomping is going to start today. I just can't imagine an NYPD officer going down without a little street justice being meaded out in retaliation.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 6:07:37 AM EST
The behavior of these protesters is a boon to the republicans.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 6:12:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By photoman:

Originally Posted By M4arc:
Damnit....it's too bad the police can't start busting heads up there.



It was an illegal march and they assulted a cop, fuck busting heads they should have been bustin' caps.



A big plus one.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:14:40 AM EST

Originally Posted By renotse:
Aarchist attack VIDEO (link)

Anarchist attack a small group of BUSH supporters



I would like to see them try that in SC.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:20:19 AM EST

Originally Posted By 82ndAbn:

Originally Posted By cyanide:
Never, and I mean never , mess with poor people.







Really, its sad to hear that the guy was injured - I hope he recovers quickly. But comments like that just catch you off guard and you have to laugh.



He's right though. They act crazy because they don't have anything to lose. Jail to them is just time doing nothing. Plus they are inside and being fed.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:21:58 AM EST
Stick time.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:29:58 AM EST
I take exception to the notion of an illegal march, I’m fairly certain we are all guaranteed the right of public assembly is some trivial piece of paper.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:41:47 AM EST

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
I take exception to the notion of an illegal march, I’m fairly certain we are all guaranteed the right of public assembly is some trivial piece of paper.



And does the right of public assembly allow me and 50 of my friends to march down the interstate during the height of labor day traffic?
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:48:20 AM EST
Yes
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 8:53:52 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:13:11 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By tommytrauma:

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
I take exception to the notion of an illegal march, I’m fairly certain we are all guaranteed the right of public assembly is some trivial piece of paper.



And does the right of public assembly allow me and 50 of my friends to march down the interstate during the height of labor day traffic?



Quit trying to be practical dammit.



In my parts of the world Nothing will happen other than maybe a couple hours in jail...

And I dont have any prob with that...


When you are no longer allowed to say "Fuck", Then you are no longer allowed to say "Fuck the Govt".... And Im willing to fight for that right, even if it is for some scum bag hippy freak.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:21:20 AM EST
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:24:37 AM EST
I hope the cop gets well soon, and I hope the guy who did it gets caught and owned hard. And I hope the nypd gets some stick time on these whackos soon..
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:37:25 AM EST

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
Yes



Oh, so then my right to swing my fist DOESN'T end at your nose.....cool.

Link Posted: 8/31/2004 9:41:23 AM EST
Just another in the many growing reasons to vote for Bush, nothing more. I wonder why those idiots doing shit like that can't see that? Do they actually think anyone besides the radical leftist nutcases like them agree with the shit they are doing or are impressed by them? What morons.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:14:16 AM EST

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:

Originally Posted By tommytrauma:

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
I take exception to the notion of an illegal march, I’m fairly certain we are all guaranteed the right of public assembly is some trivial piece of paper.



And does the right of public assembly allow me and 50 of my friends to march down the interstate during the height of labor day traffic?



Quit trying to be practical dammit.



This is why Libertarians have beciome the party for Potheads instead of the party for thinking Americans.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


NOWHERE does this not allow for local municipalities to require permits to block public roads and iinterfere with the rest of the public's daily life.

Anybody can meet with as many people as they want in the privacy of their own homes or businesses. If you want to use a state park or city street - you need to get permission from that appropriate government entity.

Heck, they let almost anyone get permission - and constitutionally speaking they really don't have to.

These fuckers just occupied the streets by force - they interfered with the lawful traffic flow and, by their direction of travel, appeared to threaten the convention.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 10:15:58 AM EST

Originally Posted By cyanide:
Never, and I mean never , mess with poor people.



Would you care to elaborate on that remark?
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 11:03:10 AM EST

Originally Posted By Eukatae:
Yes



You need to think this through a little. My "rights" don't often extend to the point where I can inflicy myself on others without their consent.
Link Posted: 8/31/2004 3:56:02 PM EST
Wow, conlsidering that case law says being outnumbered is grounds for deadly force, there are some VERY lucky liverals alive tonight.
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