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Posted: 3/11/2011 4:26:52 PM EDT
Story Updated: Mar 10, 2011
That's a nice business you got there. Pity if anything were to happen to it if, say, you didn't toe the line and denounce Governor Walker like we're asking nice-like. March 10, 2011 Mr. Tom Ellis, President Marshall & Ilsley Corporation 770 N. Water Street Milwaukee, WI 53202 SENT VIA FASCIMILE AND REGULAR MAIL Dear Mr. Ellis: As you undoubtedly know, Governor Walker recently proposed a “budget adjustment bill” to eviscerate public employees’ right to collectively bargain in Wisconsin. .. As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support. The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters, and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities. In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining, please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table. Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that ideal. In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer, at 608.273.3840. Thank you in advance for your consideration. We look forward to hearing from you soon. James L. Palmer, Executive Director Wisconsin Professional Police Association Mahlon Mitchell,President Professional Professional Fire Fighters Jim Conway, President International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311 John Matthews, Execuctive Director Madison Teachers, Inc. Keith Patt, Executive Director Green Bay Education Association Bob Richardson, President Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association Dan Frei, Prersident Madison Professional Police Officers Association http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/117764004.html?blog=y |
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Sounds like extortion to me.
Attorney General might look into some indictments. |
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Sounds like extortion to me. Attorney General might look into some indictments. this is what i was thinking. |
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As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support. Seems that I recall that is exactly what he campaigned. |
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It sounds like it is getting close to the time when it will be necessary to bash some heads in with a brick. Edit: I am not above using the enemy's playbook against them. Hell I'll kick it up a notch just for the lulz. |
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Fuck it. It not even worth it, people should just move their businesses out of WI and let the whole thing collapse.
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Threat of boycott is still threat of a legal activity, nothing illegal about boycotting. The company should just respond and copy someone in the Atty General's office:
"Everyone is free to buy the products that our taxpaying employees produce or not buy them. It is strange that the salaries of the people you represent are to some degree supported by thet taxes paid by my employees, and in demanding their support, you threaten to damage the source of the salaries for those people that you claim to represent. However, it concerns me to get a letter from someone representing a law enforcement association. Please respond by 3/23 and indicate whether you feel your negative attitude towards this company will be reflected in slow emergency response times or police harrassment of our company. I understand that you did not specifically state that as a possibility, however, your desire to collectively determine the attitude of your represented police association members towards our company could easily be taken to imply lesser service to this taxpaying company. If you do not respond by 3/23, we will take our concerns to the Attorney General. Thank you for your communication" ETA: "P.S. I have directed our management to carefully monitor response times and quality of response for public services provided by employees of the undersigned associations in your letter. If we notice any discrepancies, we will promptly disclose this information to the Attorney General's office." |
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I swear I think its only a matter of time before these UNION thugs start firebombing or assaulting people and then I hope to see the Real People stand up and start fighting back.
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Sounds like extortion to me. Attorney General might look into some indictments. Since there are several unions involved...RICO? |
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Quoted: I swear I think its only a matter of time before these UNION thugs start firebombing or assaulting people and then I hope to see the Real People stand up and start fighting back. It would be nice if they did those things in a state like FL. They could be lit up on the spot and no charges would be filed against the victim because agg assault and arson are forcible felonies. |
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Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.
Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. |
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Sounds like extortion to me. Attorney General might look into some indictments. Since there are several unions involved...RICO? NEVER HAPPEN. |
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I remember growing up these pussies would shoot into homes with kids living in them if you crossed the line.
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I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.
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I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone. Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all? |
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I'm sorry, but that is criminal.
It's one thing for that letter to come from Canine Walkers Union 154, or Wisconsin Hamburger-flippers Local 559. BUT IT IS FROM POLICE AND FIREMEN largely. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE PUBLIC. WHAT THE FUCK. This is the exact reason why ALL public unions at the local/state and federal level must be crushed and change the laws to make it illegal to organize against the people they are suppost to protect. If I'm that business, I hope I don't get robbed or firebombed by these socialist motherfuckers. |
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Sounds like extortion to me. Attorney General might look into some indictments. Since there are several unions involved...RICO? NEVER HAPPEN. Now while the current regime is in power. |
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Isn't that the very reason the unions bargaining rights just got canned ?
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I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone. Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all? That's what I'm thinking. By their actions, as they are public servants, they have issued an ultimatum which, in effect, has them coercing/extorting some of the very people they supposedly serve. ((ETA)) And pay their wages. |
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One of the very reasons public unions are a BAD idea. While officially the union couldn't tell its members to handle those businesses differently, their actions could definitely lead to LEO union members reacting to those businesses differently if the union influences them to think the companies resent LEOs in general.
Public sector unions are a bad idea. |
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Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that. Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. Guess I'm a piece of shit. |
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Marshall & Ilsley Corporation seems to be some sort of commercial investment bank.
If those racketeers aren't already investing with them, they probably won't care. |
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Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that. Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. Guess I'm a piece of shit. Not necessarily. How do you like your union bosses attempting to act like the mafia? |
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I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone. Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all? Well, I'm just going off of what the letter says. If the Police union wants to tell their members that so and so bank sucks and that they shouldn't get a new car loan from them I just don't see it as a very big deal. When I was in AFSCME years ago our monthly newsletters were full of all sorts of the same shit (buy from these guys don't buy from those guys ect). If I misread it and they're (The unions) talking about their members withholding public SERVICES from those companies it's a totally different matter. |
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Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that. Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. Guess I'm a piece of shit. While you may not be yourself, you stand to be counted with them. What are you doing to oppose the agenda you do not support, that your union is trying to advance? If nothing, then you are standing with them. Alas, the only thing necessary for the advancement of evil is for good men to do nothing. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that. Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. Guess I'm a piece of shit. Not necessarily. How do you like your union bosses attempting to act like the mafia? It speaks volumes about their character. The mafia could probably learn a few things from these guys. |
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Sounds like extortion to me. Attorney General might look into some indictments. they must be nuts. Fuck the Unions and I hope eventually all of them will be put to pasture |
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It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!
It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor. Now they're committing extortion?!?!?! |
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I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone. Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all? Well, I'm just going off of what the letter says. If the Police union wants to tell their members that so and so bank sucks and that they shouldn't get a new car loan from them I just don't see it as a very big deal. When I was in AFSCME years ago our monthly newsletters were full of all sorts of the same shit (buy from these guys don't buy from those guys ect). If I misread it and they're (The unions) talking about their members withholding public SERVICES from those companies it's a totally different matter. That would be the primary thing that concerns me. Remains to be seen, I guess. |
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Everyone already knows how the unions operate. Anyone who doesnt either does not care because they benefit, or they simply vote as they are told to.
Fools or slaves. |
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It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy! It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor. Now they're committing extortion?!?!?! It must be nice living in a black and white only kind of world. |
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You did misread. The letter is external to a private business........It is not a internal union newsletter.
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It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy! It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor. Now they're committing extortion?!?!?! Hard to be sure with your piss poor grammar, but are you trying to say that the email is not indicative of extortion? Also, if you can, please elaborate on your point about the public unions starting to utilize free markets or capitalism. (Elaborate- Verb: Develop or present (a theory, policy, or system) in detail) Kthx |
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i want a list of the companies that told the unions to get fucked. so i can support their buissiness.
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I guess they could counter by closing the accounts of any union member doing business there.
Or maybe say that they will advocate Walker and the assembly add them to the affected public employees; weren't they excepted from the bill? |
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Quoted: It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy! It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor. Now they're committing extortion?!?!?! The big deal is not them boycotting these businesses. That's OK. On the other hand, those Unions would be wrong to give businesses that did not participate in their program a sub par level of service. |
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What exactly did they threaten again? a boycott?
Know how many letters a year I get telling me not to shop here or there? Fuck that.
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Quoted: i guess some people cant wrap their head around the fact that the govt isnt the free market..It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy! It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor. Now they're committing extortion?!?!?! so please... before you call others window lickers... maybe you should wash that taste out of your mouth first. |
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COC violation if I post that it is no different than some other orgs.
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Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that. Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit. Guess I'm a piece of shit. guess that makes me one to...right to work states at it agian. |
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