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Posted: 3/11/2011 3:26:52 PM EST
Story Updated: Mar 10, 2011

That's a nice business you got there. Pity if anything were to happen to it if, say, you didn't toe the line and denounce Governor Walker like we're asking nice-like.

March 10, 2011
Mr. Tom Ellis, President
Marshall & Ilsley Corporation
770 N. Water Street
Milwaukee, WI 53202
SENT VIA FASCIMILE AND REGULAR MAIL
Dear Mr. Ellis:
As you undoubtedly know, Governor Walker recently proposed a “budget
adjustment bill” to eviscerate public employees’ right to collectively bargain in
Wisconsin. ..

As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest
contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support.

The undersigned groups would like your company to publicly oppose Governor
Walker’s efforts to virtually eliminate collective bargaining for public employees in
Wisconsin. While we appreciate that you may need some time to consider this
request, we ask for your response by March 17. In the event that you do not
respond to this request by that date, we will assume that you stand with
Governor Walker and against the teachers, nurses, police officers, fire fighters,
and other dedicated public employees who serve our communities.

In the event that you cannot support this effort to save collective bargaining,
please be advised that the undersigned will publicly and formally boycott the
goods and services provided by your company. However, if you join us, we will
do everything in our power to publicly celebrate your partnership in the fight to
preserve the right of public employees to be heard at the bargaining table.
Wisconsin’s public employee unions serve to protect and promote equality and
fairness in the workplace. We hope you will stand with us and publicly share that
ideal.

In the event you would like to discuss this matter further, please contact the
executive Director of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association, Jim Palmer,
at 608.273.3840.

Thank you in advance for your consideration. We look forward to hearing from
you soon.

James L. Palmer, Executive Director
Wisconsin Professional Police Association
Mahlon Mitchell,President
Professional Professional Fire Fighters
Jim Conway, President
International Association of Fire Fighters Local 311
John Matthews, Execuctive Director
Madison Teachers, Inc.
Keith Patt, Executive Director
Green Bay Education Association
Bob Richardson, President
Dane County Deputy Sheriffs Association
Dan Frei, Prersident
Madison Professional Police Officers Association

http://www.620wtmj.com/shows/charliesykes/117764004.html?blog=y



Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:28:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:30:08 PM EST
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.

Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:30:47 PM EST
UNION SCUM!
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:32:25 PM EST
UNIONS THREATEN BUSINESS


No shit.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:32:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By Jarhead_22:
UNIONS THREATEN BUSINESS


No shit.



Isn't that their job?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:33:51 PM EST
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.



this is what i was thinking.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:34:11 PM EST
I suspect Mr. Palmer is going to get a few calls about this.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:35:53 PM EST
As you also know, Scott Walker did not campaign on this issue when he ran for
office. If he had, we are confident that you would not be listed among his largest
contributors. As such, we are contacting you now to request your support.


Seems that I recall that is exactly what he campaigned.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:43:30 PM EST
Did they get the template for the letter from JE$$IE JACK$ON?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:44:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 3:46:00 PM EST by DragoMuseveni]
It sounds like it is getting close to the time when it will be necessary to bash some heads in with a brick.


Edit: I am not above using the enemy's playbook against them. Hell I'll kick it up a notch just for the lulz.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:46:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 3:49:52 PM EST by lostnswv]
Fuck it. It not even worth it, people should just move their businesses out of WI and let the whole thing collapse.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:50:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 4:21:44 PM EST by odfox]
Threat of boycott is still threat of a legal activity, nothing illegal about boycotting. The company should just respond and copy someone in the Atty General's office:

"Everyone is free to buy the products that our taxpaying employees produce or not buy them. It is strange that the salaries of the people you represent are to some degree supported by thet taxes paid by my employees, and in demanding their support, you threaten to damage the source of the salaries for those people that you claim to represent.

However, it concerns me to get a letter from someone representing a law enforcement association. Please respond by 3/23 and indicate whether you feel your negative attitude towards this company will be reflected in slow emergency response times or police harrassment of our company. I understand that you did not specifically state that as a possibility, however, your desire to collectively determine the attitude of your represented police association members towards our company could easily be taken to imply lesser service to this taxpaying company. If you do not respond by 3/23, we will take our concerns to the Attorney General.

Thank you for your communication"

ETA:

"P.S. I have directed our management to carefully monitor response times and quality of response for public services provided by employees of the undersigned associations in your letter. If we notice any discrepancies, we will promptly disclose this information to the Attorney General's office."
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:51:51 PM EST
I swear I think its only a matter of time before these UNION thugs start firebombing or assaulting people and then I hope to see the Real People stand up and start fighting back.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:52:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.



Since there are several unions involved...RICO?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:54:19 PM EST
Nothing but a bunch of criminal goons
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:55:01 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 3:55:35 PM EST by DragoMuseveni]

Originally Posted By Scar1:
I swear I think its only a matter of time before these UNION thugs start firebombing or assaulting people and then I hope to see the Real People stand up and start fighting back.


It would be nice if they did those things in a state like FL. They could be lit up on the spot and no charges would be filed against the victim because agg assault and arson are forcible felonies.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:55:22 PM EST
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:55:29 PM EST
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:55:33 PM EST
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.



Since there are several unions involved...RICO?


NEVER HAPPEN.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:55:34 PM EST
I remember growing up these pussies would shoot into homes with kids living in them if you crossed the line.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:57:42 PM EST
I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.



Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:59:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By Treadhead:
I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.





Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:59:47 PM EST
I'm sorry, but that is criminal.

It's one thing for that letter to come from Canine Walkers Union 154, or Wisconsin Hamburger-flippers Local 559.

BUT IT IS FROM POLICE AND FIREMEN largely. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT AND SERVE THE PUBLIC.

WHAT THE FUCK.

This is the exact reason why ALL public unions at the local/state and federal level must be crushed and change the laws to make it illegal to organize against the people they are suppost to protect.

If I'm that business, I hope I don't get robbed or firebombed by these socialist motherfuckers.

Link Posted: 3/11/2011 3:59:50 PM EST
Originally Posted By lostnswv:
Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.



Since there are several unions involved...RICO?


NEVER HAPPEN.


Now while the current regime is in power.

Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:01:12 PM EST
Isn't that the very reason the unions bargaining rights just got canned ?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:02:24 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 4:03:05 PM EST by Strykewolf]
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Treadhead:
I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.





Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all?


That's what I'm thinking. By their actions, as they are public servants, they have issued an ultimatum which, in effect, has them coercing/extorting some of the very people they supposedly serve.

((ETA)) And pay their wages.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:03:25 PM EST
One of the very reasons public unions are a BAD idea. While officially the union couldn't tell its members to handle those businesses differently, their actions could definitely lead to LEO union members reacting to those businesses differently if the union influences them to think the companies resent LEOs in general.

Public sector unions are a bad idea.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:04:55 PM EST
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.


Guess I'm a piece of shit.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:05:17 PM EST
Marshall & Ilsley Corporation seems to be some sort of commercial investment bank.

If those racketeers aren't already investing with them, they probably won't care.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:07:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By pointblanke:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.


Guess I'm a piece of shit.


Not necessarily. How do you like your union bosses attempting to act like the mafia?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:10:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Treadhead:
I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.





Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all?


Well, I'm just going off of what the letter says. If the Police union wants to tell their members that so and so bank
sucks and that they shouldn't get a new car loan from them I just don't see it as a very big deal. When I was in
AFSCME years ago our monthly newsletters were full of all sorts of the same shit (buy from these guys don't buy
from those guys ect).

If I misread it and they're (The unions) talking about their members withholding public SERVICES from those companies
it's a totally different matter.

Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:12:44 PM EST
Originally Posted By pointblanke:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.


Guess I'm a piece of shit.


While you may not be yourself, you stand to be counted with them. What are you doing to oppose the agenda you do not support, that your union is trying to advance?

If nothing, then you are standing with them. Alas, the only thing necessary for the advancement of evil is for good men to do nothing.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:14:33 PM EST

Originally Posted By Strykewolf:
Originally Posted By pointblanke:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.


Guess I'm a piece of shit.


Not necessarily. How do you like your union bosses attempting to act like the mafia?

It speaks volumes about their character. The mafia could probably learn a few things from these guys.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:15:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By Cpt_Kirks:
Sounds like extortion to me.

Attorney General might look into some indictments.



they must be nuts.

Fuck the Unions and I hope eventually all of them will be put to pasture

Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:16:44 PM EST
It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!

It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor.

Now they're committing extortion?!?!?!



Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:16:49 PM EST
FTU -, but their money, their choice.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:17:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Treadhead:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Originally Posted By Treadhead:
I'm no fan of unions but I don't have a problem with them threatening to boycott someone.





Boycott financially or boycott their services which, due to taxes paid, are supposed to be available to all?


Well, I'm just going off of what the letter says. If the Police union wants to tell their members that so and so bank
sucks and that they shouldn't get a new car loan from them I just don't see it as a very big deal. When I was in
AFSCME years ago our monthly newsletters were full of all sorts of the same shit (buy from these guys don't buy
from those guys ect).

If I misread it and they're (The unions) talking about their members withholding public SERVICES from those companies
it's a totally different matter.



That would be the primary thing that concerns me. Remains to be seen, I guess.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:17:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 4:18:59 PM EST by jmt1271]
Everyone already knows how the unions operate. Anyone who doesnt either does not care because they benefit, or they simply vote as they are told to.

Fools or slaves.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:18:40 PM EST
Originally Posted By jaholder1971:
It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!

It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor.

Now they're committing extortion?!?!?!





It must be nice living in a black and white only kind of world.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:20:10 PM EST
You did misread. The letter is external to a private business........It is not a internal union newsletter.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:21:59 PM EST
GIMME YER LUNCH MONIES!
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:22:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By jaholder1971:
It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!

It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor.

Now they're committing extortion?!?!?!




Hard to be sure with your piss poor grammar, but are you trying to say that the email is not indicative of extortion?

Also, if you can, please elaborate on your point about the public unions starting to utilize free markets or capitalism.

(Elaborate- Verb: Develop or present (a theory, policy, or system) in detail)

Kthx
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:22:25 PM EST
i want a list of the companies that told the unions to get fucked. so i can support their buissiness.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:23:59 PM EST
[Last Edit: 3/11/2011 4:25:44 PM EST by new_RRA_user]
I guess they could counter by closing the accounts of any union member doing business there.

Or maybe say that they will advocate Walker and the assembly add them to the affected public employees; weren't they excepted from the bill?
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:24:40 PM EST

Originally Posted By jaholder1971:
It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!

It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor.

Now they're committing extortion?!?!?!




The big deal is not them boycotting these businesses. That's OK. On the other hand, those Unions would be wrong to give businesses that did not participate in their program a sub par level of service.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:25:04 PM EST
What exactly did they threaten again? a boycott?



Know how many letters a year I get telling me not to shop here or there? Fuck that.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:25:45 PM EST

Originally Posted By jaholder1971:
It's funny watching the anti union window lickers show their hypocrisy!

It was all fun and games lecturing to us about the free market until the public employee unions started to use the free market in their favor.

Now they're committing extortion?!?!?!



i guess some people cant wrap their head around the fact that the govt isnt the free market..


so please... before you call others window lickers... maybe you should wash that taste out of your mouth first.


Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:26:42 PM EST
COC violation if I post that it is no different than some other orgs.
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:27:32 PM EST
Dear Union Thug -

GTFO

mp
Link Posted: 3/11/2011 4:27:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By pointblanke:
Originally Posted By fxntime:
Huh, quite "professional" of a police/fire organization to do something like that.

Any cop/FF who would stay in an organization like that deserves to be called a piece of shit.


Guess I'm a piece of shit.


guess that makes me one to...right to work states at it agian.
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