[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Typical range behavior (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 6/20/2016 1:23:27 AM EDT
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In your AO, have things changed at the range? It seems like now almost everyone, even with an AR or other "tactical" looking weapon wants to slap a scope on it and then drop their backside in a chair and target shoot. Most aren't very good at it.
Do you think all these movies, like American Sniper , have people in amateur sniper fantasies? Heck, in the part of the Midwest I'm in, it is so hilly and treed a 300 yard shot would be rare. I guess I'm confused. If you are buying a weapon for self-defense, are the bad guys going to let you get a chair before you shoot? Anyhow, is anyone else seeing this at the range, or is the part of the country I'm in unique? |
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Those kinda guys can be fun. I liked giving them some basic instruction and advising them on what they should get or take off their rifle back when I used to go to regular ranges.
Unless they were using an old Mini 14 that clonked me in the head with brass on every shot. From five stations down. |
| I only go the range when I'm zeroing, so it's hard to say why they're all there. When I go in the weeks immediately preceding hunting season (by mere happenstance; I don't hunt here) I see a lot of bolt guns in addition to ARs. Then again it's Phoenix so you only have to go so far to hit the desert and a wide-open range......where the real weirdos live. |
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That's the way most public ranges around here are set up. A lot don't allow standing shooting, much less shoot and move or holster draw.
It doesn't teach anything other than sight placement and trigger control. It's a good place to start but you quickly move past that and have to go somewhere else. |
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In your AO, have things changed at the range? It seems like now almost everyone, even with an AR or other "tactical" looking weapon wants to slap a scope on it and then drop their backside in a chair and target shoot. Most aren't very good at it. Do you think all these movies, like American Sniper , have people in amateur sniper fantasies? Heck, in the part of the Midwest I'm in, it is so hilly and treed a 300 yard shot would be rare. I guess I'm confused. If you are buying a weapon for self-defense, are the bad guys going to let you get a chair before you shoot? Anyhow, is anyone else seeing this at the range, or is the part of the country I'm in unique? Are you asking if it's unique for people at a bench range to sit a bench? No. That isn't unique where I'm from. |
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In your AO, have things changed at the range? It seems like now almost everyone, even with an AR or other "tactical" looking weapon wants to slap a scope on it and then drop their backside in a chair and target shoot. Most aren't very good at it. Do you think all these movies, like American Sniper , have people in amateur sniper fantasies? Heck, in the part of the Midwest I'm in, it is so hilly and treed a 300 yard shot would be rare. I guess I'm confused. If you are buying a weapon for self-defense, are the bad guys going to let you get a chair before you shoot? Anyhow, is anyone else seeing this at the range, or is the part of the country I'm in unique? 1) Some ranges dont allow standing shooting (dunno about yours) 2) If they are being safe, who cares what they do. Part of the reason I hated going to public ranges is too many busy bodies. |
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That's the way most public ranges around here are set up. A lot don't allow standing shooting, much less shoot and move or holster draw. It doesn't teach anything other than sight placement and trigger control. It's a good place to start but you quickly move past that and have to go somewhere else. Came to say this. Many ranges require shooting from a bench. |
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It's easier to sight in a rifle from sitting, and I like to get my 50 or 100 yard zeros done at a 25 yard range before I go outside where it's windy and bright and target doesn't return to me at the push of a button.
Also, it may be hard to tell from your high horse, but just because I have an AR with a 1-6x scope, it's not 5.56 and I can hunt big critters with 6.8 SPC--so there's that. |
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Hollywood movies create misconceptions and popular images.
Hollywood movies are created to evoke an image of reality that can be easily understood by anyone. Reality is difficult to understand and duplicate.Why struggle with complex reality when you can "go soft" and enjoy imitating a convenient and easy image? |
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Two weekends ago, my buddies and I went camping at a place that has a 100 yard range and some steel targets. We were setup shooting, made sure stuff in .308 was zeroed. I tested my backup sights on my M&P 15T then we started shooting for fun. Hit x target x amount of times, hit that one twice, then transition to another..Nothing too serious. Mostly bench or standing next to the bench. Then up the hill comes a SUV. Three guys get out, one is wearing a drop holster on his right leg and wait for it......a K-bar hanging from 550 cord on his left.  Considering he was driving and had out of state plates I don't know what he would have encountered in that vehicle that warrants a knife on a string, but what do I know, I was wearing gym shorts and a t-shirt. 
ETA: they decided there where too many other people at the range (mind you there were two open benches) so they got back in and drove away. |
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Those kinda guys can be fun. I liked giving them some basic instruction and advising them on what they should get or take off their rifle back when I used to go to regular ranges. Unless they were using an old Mini 14 that clonked me in the head with brass on every shot. From five stations down. Oh,you were THAT guy. |
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Quoted: Because you're supposed to engage game tactically, what the fuck is wrong with you? This isn't Hollywood! Quoted: Quoted: Sometimes I hunt from a ground blind with chairs in it so why not practice shooting from sitting? Because you're supposed to engage game tactically, what the fuck is wrong with you? This isn't Hollywood! Thank you sir. I will "up my game".  |
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1) Some ranges dont allow standing shooting (dunno about yours) 2) If they are being safe, who cares what they do. Part of the reason I hated going to public ranges is too many busy bodies. Quoted:
1) Some ranges dont allow standing shooting (dunno about yours) 2) If they are being safe, who cares what they do. Part of the reason I hated going to public ranges is too many busy bodies. This. Glad my club is empty when I go during the week. Quoted:
Many ranges are run by retired fudds who won't let you do drills or fire more than once per second, thus ARs on the bench rest firing line. I've never been to a range that allowed drills with rifles. Even the pits for drills at my current club are for pistols only. |
| As long as they shoot safely I dont care. I have been to ranges that only let you shoot slow fire from bench and ranges that allow you to move and fire. I prefer the later , but will at times bench shoot on new builds, scopes , or just to see how good a shot I can get. |
| I have 17000 acres to shoot on, my hunting lease..with that said it is 3 hrs away...so I was bored and hit up a local range...a few lanes down were 4 utes..2 tatted up guys and 2 tatted up girls. They had a vid. Cam going and rap playing ..they were handling the rented AK like a whore handling a bible in church...I drive the 3 hrs now. |
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Hey most Fudds are basically ignorant of shooting and marksmanship fundamentals. And no, there never seems to be a bench handy when you need to shoot your rifle for real.
But whatever the more ARs out the door and in the hands of FUDDS the better. The NSSF, NRA, and industry have done a good job casting ARs as "modern sporting rifles". In a political system apparently built on retardation, ignorance, hysteria, and media propaganda if having ARs out in the hands of a bunch of fudds helps to defend the Second Amendment, OK then. |
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Last time I went to the range a "man" threw a passive-aggressive hissy fit that my M1A was loud and disrupting his .22 pistol shooting. Looking back I should have timed my shots to go off right as he was squeezing the trigger. I can beat that. A few years ago some "men" were shooting trap about 150 yards away from a buddy of mine and I shooting - wait for it, the massively powerful M1911 pistol - and they complained we were ruining their concentration. WTF. |