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2/23/2013 2:11:32 AM EDT
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3d_1339304786

I'd never given it much thought. How much snow does it take to bog down a train? How much to render the tracks unusable?

Bonus snow plow footage.
2/23/2013 2:16:43 AM EDT
[#1]


I think I became the wrong kind of engineer.


2/23/2013 2:28:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Way cool.  I want to be in one of those trains for a day.
2/23/2013 2:32:56 AM EDT
[#3]
You know...I would have never thought this existed...but now that I know it does..it makes sense....
2/23/2013 2:55:04 AM EDT
[#4]
Cool, and as a bonus, Blackfoot as well.  
2/23/2013 3:00:09 AM EDT
[#5]
One winter a buddy and myself were walking down the tracks back home in the evening after rabbit hunting. Heard the train, but didn't think much of it. Turned around when they were a couple hundred yards away and they had a plow on and a wing blade out. We hopped off the side of the grade pretty dang quick.
2/23/2013 3:33:45 AM EDT
[#6]
Bet it will be a real bitch to set that thing back on the rails.
2/23/2013 4:58:33 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Bet it will be a real bitch to set that thing back on the rails.


I was thinking the same thing....
2/23/2013 5:13:19 AM EDT
[#8]
That's cool.
2/23/2013 5:16:38 AM EDT
[#9]
Yeah that is pretty neat. Thanks.
2/23/2013 5:19:57 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Bet it will be a real bitch to set that thing back on the rails.


Assuming the track itself is not damaged, it probably won't be too big of a deal.
2/23/2013 5:22:50 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3d_1339304786

I'd never given it much thought. How much snow does it take to bog down a train? How much to render the tracks unusable?

Bonus snow plow footage.



if it gets really deep, they bring these out. I think they go through anything except a glacier.

2/23/2013 5:35:57 AM EDT
[#12]


Front fell off.

 There are a couple of companies out there that do nothing but train wrecks/derailments.  I got mixed in with a big convoy of them on I 80 once.  Those guys are always on the road.
2/23/2013 6:04:48 AM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:


Front fell off.

 There are a couple of companies out there that do nothing but train wrecks/derailments.  I got mixed in with a big convoy of them on I 80 once.  Those guys are always on the road.


Hulcher services in the white trucks, RJ Corman in the red, are the two buggest companies.
2/23/2013 7:05:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Very cool!

That Alaskan snow inhaler looks plain SCARY!
2/23/2013 7:40:50 AM EDT
[#15]








The book Snowbound Streamliner is a good read on the subject.

2/23/2013 7:55:59 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3d_1339304786

I'd never given it much thought. How much snow does it take to bog down a train? How much to render the tracks unusable?

Bonus snow plow footage.


Depends on how the tracks are set.

I've seen small strings of empty cars derail on less than 3" of snow with rails embedded below a concrete surface. Pack enough snow under the wheels, and it'll lift right off the rail.
2/23/2013 7:57:56 AM EDT
[#17]
thats pretty cool
2/23/2013 8:07:22 AM EDT
[#18]
ALOT of good videos to watch.. I can watch all day !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF2ZPRmocs4

and theres like 5 vids of getting it unstuck..


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWVFWHvqiuI


2/23/2013 9:24:12 AM EDT
[#19]
I might need to change careers.
2/23/2013 9:57:33 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e3d_1339304786

I'd never given it much thought. How much snow does it take to bog down a train? How much to render the tracks unusable?

Bonus snow plow footage.


Depends on how the tracks are set.

I've seen small strings of empty cars derail on less than 3" of snow with rails embedded below a concrete surface. Pack enough snow under the wheels, and it'll lift right off the rail.


That's why here at the BNSF we have a rule about running a load or light power over snow/ice/dirt covered tracks first,
2/23/2013 10:08:40 AM EDT
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2/23/2013 10:12:56 AM EDT
[#22]
That looks like fun.


2/23/2013 10:18:59 AM EDT
[#23]


- Clint
2/23/2013 10:20:33 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

I'd never given it much thought. How much snow does it take to bog down a train? How much to render the tracks unusable?



the video I posted stopped a train plow dead in its tracks...
2/23/2013 10:33:32 AM EDT
[#25]
Quoted:
Quoted:


Front fell off.

 There are a couple of companies out there that do nothing but train wrecks/derailments.  I got mixed in with a big convoy of them on I 80 once.  Those guys are always on the road.


Hulcher services in the white trucks, RJ Corman in the red, are the two buggest companies.




Years ago when I drove truck we did a lot of train wrecks. I ran a pneumatic vac truck and did a lot of product recovery type stuff.

2/23/2013 10:37:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Chipping ice and snow out of switches at 0300 in -10 degree weather (before wind chill) is the shittiest thing I've ever done in my life. Snow plows are nice, but it takes some dumbass with a switch broom and a point bar (and maybe a torch and a jackhammer) to clean out switches.

 
2/23/2013 10:40:57 AM EDT
[#27]
I wanna see one of these train snowplows hit a car.


2/23/2013 2:27:06 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
Chipping ice and snow out of switches at 0300 in -10 degree weather (before wind chill) is the shittiest thing I've ever done in my life. Snow plows are nice, but it takes some dumbass with a switch broom and a point bar (and maybe a torch and a jackhammer) to clean out switches.  


That's what switch heaters are for.
2/23/2013 2:31:22 PM EDT
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2/23/2013 3:19:22 PM EDT
[#30]
thread payload approved. recommend continued aggression and posting. carry on. lol
2/23/2013 3:19:40 PM EDT
[#31]



Quoted:



Quoted:

Chipping ice and snow out of switches at 0300 in -10 degree weather (before wind chill) is the shittiest thing I've ever done in my life. Snow plows are nice, but it takes some dumbass with a switch broom and a point bar (and maybe a torch and a jackhammer) to clean out switches.  




That's what switch heaters are for.


It'd really be nice if they'd stop being cheapasses. The territory I worked last winter had no switch heaters. The one I worked this winter before getting furloughed had blowers on four sidings, and nothing on the rest or in the yard.



 
2/23/2013 4:04:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Bet it will be a real bitch to set that thing back on the rails.


I was thinking the same thing....


A train guy told me that all they do is make a Y-shaped set of rails in front of the engine, then just drive it back on the rails. I dunno how problematical it'll be getting it upright though.
2/23/2013 4:07:13 PM EDT
[#33]
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I wanna see one of these train snowplows hit a car.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3349/4557882491_d277010631_z.jpg




Mythbusters did a segment on snowplow vs. car, headon. Interesting.
2/23/2013 4:13:45 PM EDT
[#34]



Quoted:

A train guy told me that all they do is make a Y-shaped set of rails in front of the engine, then just drive it back on the rails. I dunno how problematical it'll be getting it upright though.


Hulcher (for example) has some pretty big sidebooms. I don't think it would be any tougher than uprighting a 210 ton locomotive.



 
2/23/2013 4:16:58 PM EDT
[#35]
Hmmm could that be surfed on a snowboard?
2/23/2013 4:29:02 PM EDT
[#36]
2/23/2013 4:37:29 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:
Chipping ice and snow out of switches at 0300 in -10 degree weather (before wind chill) is the shittiest thing I've ever done in my life. Snow plows are nice, but it takes some dumbass with a switch broom and a point bar (and maybe a torch and a jackhammer) to clean out switches.  


I've heard that a time or two from family members.
2/23/2013 4:53:55 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Bet it will be a real bitch to set that thing back on the rails.


I was thinking the same thing....


A train guy told me that all they do is make a Y-shaped set of rails in front of the engine, then just drive it back on the rails.


Rerailing frog:



Derailing plows is a common enough occurrence that we keep ours equipped with a couple of rerailing frogs.


I dunno how problematical it'll be getting it upright though.


Not sure that anything needs to be uprighted. Looks like the lead locomotive truck and the plow can be pulled back onto the rail.

2/23/2013 4:57:27 PM EDT
[#39]
If a train can hit a fully loaded Semi trailer and not even notice, I think a little snow is not even an issue.
2/23/2013 4:58:39 PM EDT
[#40]



Quoted:



Derailing plows is a common enough occurrence that we keep ours equipped with a couple of rerailing frogs.



Train handling. Every derailment ever was, is, and will be caused by train handling.



 
2/23/2013 4:58:56 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
If a train can hit a fully loaded Semi trailer and not even notice, I think a little snow is not even an issue.


Um, no.
2/23/2013 5:03:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Derailing plows is a common enough occurrence that we keep ours equipped with a couple of rerailing frogs.

Train handling. Every derailment ever was, is, and will be caused by train handling.
 


Work trans are often in their own special little world.

That's one of the neat/fun things about plowing snow: You're often exempt from speed limits and slow orders. You go as fast as the MOW guys on board tell you to. You have to maintain speed and momentum to throw the snow sufficiently far from the tracks.
2/23/2013 5:04:45 PM EDT
[#43]



Quoted:

Work trans are often in their own special little world.



That's one of the neat/fun things about plowing snow: You're often exempt from speed limits and slow orders. You go as fast as the MOW guys on board tell you to. You have to maintain speed and momentum to throw the snow sufficiently far from the tracks.


Really? Interesting.



 
2/23/2013 5:12:24 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
If a train can hit a fully loaded Semi trailer and not even notice, I think a little snow is not even an issue.


A little snow?  Hit enough snow and the plow suddently stops while the locomotives behind it keep pushing and things get very messy.  Go on youtube and search for "railroad snowplows", "snowplow accident" or "Canadian snowplows".  There are some old videos of snowplows crashing and tumbling end over end as they hit snow that's too heavy for them and physics takes over.
2/23/2013 6:13:28 PM EDT
[#45]
cool
2/23/2013 6:19:42 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:

Quoted:

Derailing plows is a common enough occurrence that we keep ours equipped with a couple of rerailing frogs.

Train handling. Every derailment ever was, is, and will be caused by train handling.
 


All accidents are preventable?
2/23/2013 6:20:05 PM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:
http://henrykisor.com/archives/snowbound2.jpg

http://henrykisor.com/archives/snowbound.jpg

The book Snowbound Streamliner is a good read on the subject.


Stevens Pass?

2/23/2013 6:39:52 PM EDT
[#48]
Pretty cool!
2/23/2013 8:09:40 PM EDT
[#49]
Quoted:
Quoted:
http://henrykisor.com/archives/snowbound2.jpg

http://henrykisor.com/archives/snowbound.jpg

The book Snowbound Streamliner is a good read on the subject.


Stevens Pass?



No, that was the Wellington avalanche, where the passengers and railroad workers were far less fortunate.

The streamliner is apparently somewhere on Donner Pass in California.
2/23/2013 8:51:12 PM EDT
[#50]
There are some vids of the KYLE RR in Kansas running some ex-SP SD45T-2s trying to clear out from a blizzard 5 years ago.

F units are great for snow duty.
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