[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX600 Engine replacement recall 100,000+ units (Page 1 of 8)
Posted: 7/26/2024 1:37:00 AM EDT
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Just announced today. Toyota recalling over 100,000 22-23 Tundras and Lexus LX600 and replacing the engine. Not a repair or rebuild but full engine replacement for main bearing failure (or potential). This is for the 3.4 TT and recall notices will be mailed in July. While I applaud Toyota for doing this, acknowledging the problem and taking action, Toyota quality has take a lot of hits over the last few years. The 3.4 has had issues since day 1, mostly around failing turbos, and the new Tacomas are not looking great either with several issues, we've all seed the couple of broken TRD OR's from YT as well as serious paint defects and of course the serious manual transmission failures and issues. The auto trans complaints and failures are starting to rack up as well plus the 300,000 unit recall for rear end bolts falling out of 3rd gens Toyota Press recall |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg’s so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8’s too. |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be.  I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. |
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Quoted: They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg's so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8's too. |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. Wrong . Out of all the vehicles I have ever owned my Toyotas have been the most trouble free. Then again they all had the 5.7L or 4.0L which were some of the most proven and reliable power plants ever made. Can’t say the same for the price of shit Ford expedition that we bought new for my wife a $75,000 piece of shit. |
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Quoted: LOL, emissions kept toyota from cleaning the metal shavings out of the oil galleries? Quoted: Quoted: They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg's so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8's too. Nah emissions made them leave metal shavings in the engines. Just ask all the Toyota fan boys. And BTW every Ranger I have owned which is 3 now have all gone over 300,000 miles and one over 400,000 miles with basic maintenence. I had a 7.3 diesel with over 500,000 on it the new owner is still driving it to my knowledge. All Ford products and not a single one needed a frame replacement unlike many Toyota trucks. It's really not that great of a feat, any modern fuel injected engine should last into the 300,000 mile range. |
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Late to the party by 3 months, but we can do this a 3rd time, or 4th/5th time if you want to count the Tacoma/Toyota 4x4 threads . . . https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Toyota-recalls-the-latest-gen-Tundra/5-2728027/  |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. Well, they kinda were. Like I've said before, I don't like this timeline we've found ourselves in. Boeing planes falling out of the sky, dudes winning female beauty pageants, and Toyotas suffering major failures. |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. But yeah I had nagging QC problems with my Mexican built Tacoma, and my 2015 Tundra had the cam tower leaks and the transmission went out at 105k miles despite being serviced by Toyota and living a pretty easy life with minimal towing. My wife's Corolla has been solid so far though. |
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Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Don't forget the 1UR 4.6 either... plenty of cases of 300+k on those bad boys. |
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Quoted: Many gather here to worship daily.  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88366/OIG2_yb_mIsM6D8bSh-3277272.jpg OMG. I'm stealing that. 
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Quoted: Just announced today. Toyota recalling over 100,000 22-23 Tundras and Lexus LX600 and replacing the engine. Not a repair or rebuild but full engine replacement for main bearing failure (or potential). This is for the 3.4 TT and recall notices will be mailed in July. While I applaud Toyota for doing this, acknowledging the problem and taking action, Toyota quality has take a lot of hits over the last few years. The 3.4 has had issues since day 1, mostly around failing turbos, and the new Tacomas are not looking great either with several issues, we've all seed the couple of broken TRD OR's from YT as well as serious paint defects and of course the serious manual transmission failures and issues. The auto trans complaints and failures are starting to rack up as well plus the 300,000 unit recall for rear end bolts falling out of 3rd gens Toyota Press recall |
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Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Here is my problem, it’s hard to take that graph seriously given how high Nissan scored, given their notorious constant CVT issues. |
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Quoted: LOL, emissions kept toyota from cleaning the metal shavings out of the oil galleries? I know that’s what was initially reported, but there’s about a 0.1% chance that’s the actual issue. It’s effecting both the Tundra and LX600, which are two totally different platforms. The Tundra is a mass produced truck built in Mexico. The Lexus LX is Toyota’s $100k+ limited production flagship vehicle that is hand built in Japan by their master technicians. I sincerely doubt those guys are assembling LX engines with metal shavings still in the block. High stress and heat wears metal. Add in that it’s a new generation/platform and it is not rocket science to figure out they’re having some teething issues. I’m sure they figure it out and get them working reliable but they’ll never be as robust as a low revving v8. Turbos are awesome and the technology has come a long way, but they will never have the reliability or longevity of a NA engine. They should be left for performance vehicles, not full size daily drivers. But again, thank government regulation for killing the V8 not Toyota. They can pry my 2UZ 100 Series LX from my cold, dead hands. |
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Quoted: Well, they kinda were. Like I've said before, I don't like this timeline we've found ourselves in. Boeing planes falling out of the sky, dudes winning female beauty pageants, and Toyotas suffering major failures. Quoted: Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. Well, they kinda were. Like I've said before, I don't like this timeline we've found ourselves in. Boeing planes falling out of the sky, dudes winning female beauty pageants, and Toyotas suffering major failures. It's not the first nor the last major issue Toyota has had with major systems, including engines . Attached File Attached File GD loves their Global Market Toyota Turbo Diesels (without experiences), but the 1KD-FTV was tier one shit show. Cracking pistons requiring a design change is problematic. This is only one of numerous engineering/testing failures. 2AZ-FE head bolts and oil consumption, 1ZZ-FE oil leak/consumption and ECMs, 3VZ- FE head gaskets (cue Deerhurst). None of which changes the fact that across wide quality surveys, with differing methodologies and time period slices, Toyota is the acknowledged quality leader. Other mfg internally benchmark and adopt TMS processes. Toyota is perennially named #1 in Forbes most admired Mfg and has been in the top 50 world companies for the last 25 years, appearing above all other mfgs. This is a survey of roughly 4,000 Executives, Directors , etc what companies they admired most. So Toyota was never perfect, and will never have zero defects. But they engineer well, deliver at accountable remedy when they fail and overall lead product QRD. |
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Quoted: The Hilux and LC70 series would like a word. But yeah I had nagging QC problems with my Mexican built Tacoma, and my 2015 Tundra had the cam tower leaks and the transmission went out at 105k miles despite being serviced by Toyota and living a pretty easy life with minimal towing. My wife's Corolla has been solid so far though. Quoted: Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. But yeah I had nagging QC problems with my Mexican built Tacoma, and my 2015 Tundra had the cam tower leaks and the transmission went out at 105k miles despite being serviced by Toyota and living a pretty easy life with minimal towing. My wife's Corolla has been solid so far though. 1KD enters the conversation . . .  The RC60F manual the N400 Tacoma is having issues with is a long used Hilux transmission that seen product improvement over year in global use. There's plenty of cooling issues in many Hilux diesel engines. Head cracking in turbocharged Al due to poor design. Glowplug issue back with LJ70. F engines used to drop valves with long, high rpm highway use. |
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I don't like to see the issues toyota is having with engines and it seems something has changed, especially NA built ones. I will say though, they are on it more then US automakers seem to be with their decades long [especially] SUV/pickup engine issues of thousands of dollars repairs with the same or slightly updated parts that still fail. If they fixed those issues [and they could if they really cared to] they would really only be helping themselves. And they could probably take market share to boot. |
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Quoted: They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg’s so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8’s too. Quoted: Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. They are but gov intervention is what it boils down to. Gov wants certain mpg’s so they had to stray away from what they knew to new tech. I mean the 4.0 was going on 20 years since it came out and the v8’s too. Correct, I'm hoping that the end of the Chevron deference will let the consumers determine the engines again. 
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My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. |
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Quoted: My 2016 Tundra needs both front wheel bearings replaced. Currently awaiting parts. It has 65,000 miles on it. 3 months ago I had a front steel wheel rust all the way through leaking air. I have 2 x 2008 honda civics with steel wheels, no issues. I have a 2005 Pontiac Vibe with steel wheels, no issues. Toyota must be using crappy steel again. I always liked the Toyota Vibe. Probably the most reliable Pontiac in decades. |
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Quoted: Here is my problem, it's hard to take that graph seriously given how high Nissan scored, given their notorious constant CVT issues. Quoted: Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus '04 Tacoma @ 450k '06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota's last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Here is my problem, it's hard to take that graph seriously given how high Nissan scored, given their notorious constant CVT issues. If you understand the methodology of that JD Power survey, it makes perfect sense. JDP VDS measures defects during the first 3 years of ownership. Tho JATCO X-tronic series greatly improved the two previous, nine of them had high failure rates during the first. 3 years of ownership unless the use exceeded 20k miles per year. There are better long term quality surveys out there. One of the only industry wide very long term surveys available to the public is https://www.dashboard-light.com/ Tho, as with any, you need to be understand the survey methodology and limits There the issues you'd expect to see impact relative quality scores |
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Quoted: Here is my problem, it’s hard to take that graph seriously given how high Nissan scored, given their notorious constant CVT issues. Quoted: Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Here is my problem, it’s hard to take that graph seriously given how high Nissan scored, given their notorious constant CVT issues. You mean Buick and Chevy being 3rd and 4th didn't give it away?
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Quoted: They're going to need to replace the hybrids too I assume. I read somewhere that hybrids weren't covered as a "safety" issue because if the engine fails the hybrid motor can safely power the vehicle to a stopping point. The interesting breakout is the lack of issue with V35A in LS500, in use since '18, and very few issues outside the production run bracketed in the recall, regardless of model. The old Bodine op mfg the blocks. There was a similar issue a number of years ago, across many platforms and Lexus and Toyota models. The issue was traced to production issues pre-assembly. . .at Yamaha. It happens. FWIW the Century series is the only truly hand built vehicle process Toyota has. |
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Quoted: You drive a lot. I just rolled over 18,000 miles on my 2021.  Barring an accident, I expect to be driving this truck until I die. Quoted: Quoted: Just here to say my 2021 5.7 has given me zero issues in all of its 23,000 mikes if ownership.  You drive a lot. I just rolled over 18,000 miles on my 2021. Barring an accident, I expect to be driving this truck until I die. Or until the cam towers start leaking or the valley plate seal fails  |
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Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Funny how people here mock JD Power when an American made vehicle places well on that list. The 350 Chevy and LS engines might want a word with your Toyotas. |
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Quoted: My nieces fiancé has a 2024 Tundra and she said the best she can do is 18 MPG. I was getting 17 with my 2019 Tundra with the 5.7L engine. So all I this bullshit design changes for 1 MPG I am a Toyota man but they missed the boat on this one. He must be a shitty driver then because my morning commute is ~22mpg |
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Quoted: Toyota never was what their fan boys made them out to be. Their v6 and v8 are great. This 4cyl turbo nonsense because of .gov is a joke. The motor in gmc trucks was junk before they put a turbo on it and its junk still. Small displacement gasoline + boost in a heavy vehicle is a fail every time. |
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Quoted: Funny how people here mock JD Power when an American made vehicle places well on that list. The 350 Chevy and LS engines might want a word with your Toyotas. Quoted: Quoted: https://i.ibb.co/56BGwWK/IMG-6738.webp I own (1) Toyota and (1) Lexus… ‘04 Tacoma @ 450k ‘06 LX470 @ 300k Both still run great and have the original engine and transmission. Neither have ever needed anything beyond preventative maintenance and replacement of wear items. The current Toyota issues are a product of government regulation more than anything else. Toyota’s last two production v8 engines for full-size vehicles (4.7 2UZ and 5.7 3UR) are arguably the two best V8 engines ever produced in terms of reliability and longevity. Thank government regulation for forcing Toyota to replace them with high stress turbo engines. You cannot defeat the laws of physics. Funny how people here mock JD Power when an American made vehicle places well on that list. The 350 Chevy and LS engines might want a word with your Toyotas. And then they F'ed them [LS] up. BADLY. I was always truly impressed with the LS series until that damned cylinder deactivation crap was designed into it. I'm also of the accord that the gen II GM engine was one of the best and most reliable V6's ever built. |
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Quoted: Or until the cam towers start leaking or the valley plate seal fails Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Just here to say my 2021 5.7 has given me zero issues in all of its 23,000 mikes if ownership. You drive a lot. I just rolled over 18,000 miles on my 2021. Barring an accident, I expect to be driving this truck until I die. Or until the cam towers start leaking or the valley plate seal fails Leave me alone. |
[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX600 Engine replacement recall 100,000+ units (Page 1 of 8)
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