Posted: 4/9/2005 2:29:43 PM EDT
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In the OK corral scene Doc has Virgils shotgun which is a double barrel. When TSHTF he fires round #1 into the air and scares the horse then places round #2 into bad guys ribcage. Then the scene shifts and he appears to shoot it again before throwing it down. I cant seem to run individual frames with the player I'm using but it sure looks like he shoots it 3 times. |
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Thats not as blatant as the hundred round yield that Val Kilmer got out of his AR15 magazines in the movie HEAT ...........but given Tombstone is loosely based on a true story, you would expect the shootout at the OK to be a bit more genuine. seen it 5+ times but haven't noticed that, but will look for it next time |
I noticed that too. He did fire 3 shots before he threw it down. Didn't you see that it was really a triple barrel? 
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Of course, the side by side by side shotgun, Ive got two right here...  |
Maybe it was a protoype Drilling?
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Bullhockey! I have it recorded on my DVR and he did not reload nor did he try to fire a fourth round. I am playing it right now. All three shots were within 2 seconds. Even you can't reload that fast. Plus, if you watch the entire scene from the time they were on the sidewalk in front of the jail, he was not given any spare ammo. |
Another wrong guess. He fired the first shot up in the air. He fired the second shot from the shoulder while standing in the same spot. He then jumped to one side and fired the third shot from the hip. I just ran it back four times and that is what happened. |
It's not a guess. IIRC, the director has confirmed this. |
It is typical Hollywood, you know, far more rounds than reality would allow given the type of gun. |
I don't care. I am watching it right now. I ran the scene 4 times. The director was just covering his ass when called on it. |
No, I don't believe you're correct. |
Can't be a misfire. When the gun misfires the badguy has to say "misfire" and then the good guy has to throw the shotgun at him to distract him while he draws his pistol. Them's the rules. 
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I don't care whether you believe it or not. I am sitting here looking at the damn thing right now. Where did he get the spare shells? No one handed him any when they handed him the shotgun. Can YOU reload a double barrel quick enough to get off 3 shots in about 2 seconds? |
Seems that I remember seeing one on History with about 6 barrels in a circular setup like a Gatling. You manually rotated the barrel after each shot. |
I don't believe you're correct in your interpretation of the scene. It's the same shot shown from two different viewpoints. |
I DON'T CARE whether you think it is correct or not. Read above. The first shot was up in the air. The second shot was from the shoulder standing in the same spot. The third shot was from the hip AFTER a sidestep. You don't "believe", so in other words, you don't know. Go watch the damn thing instead of telling me what you don't believe. You keep repeating the same old crap, yet I have watched the scene numerous times during the course of this thread. Sheesh. |
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Definitely it is a screwed up scene, we all can see that. Either they did 3 shots, or messed up the two angles of the second shot. I think that they filmed the scene a couple times and they did not match up his "second shot" If you watch the shootee, you'll see that it was the same guy shot both times. Standing next to the horse, shot on the right side, falls to the left, and has that funny leg kick. A little difference in the fall since the stuntman could not exactly duplicate his fall. He was not shot 2 separate times before he fell. |
I have watched it. I don't care if every single detail didn't match up, it was INTENDED to be the same shot from a different angle. The director has said so. I am sure they did have to reshoot it from that angle, as to simply have cameras in both places would have made the cameras visible in the other angle. Maybe they screwed up the placement in the second take, but frankly it was a split second scene and not apparent without rewinding it repeatedly. |
It was apparent the first time that it was 3 different shots. I didn't have to rewind several times. I just did that so I could tell you details. I really don't care what the director said. Since when do you take the word of a Hollywood director who probably don't know shit about guns? I don't care what they intended. This was just another one of Hollywood's many liberties taken when it comes to guns. |
Since the question was asked of him and he responded, and since it's evident from a couple other scenes in the movie that this is just what he was doing. |
Maybe evident to you, but you are just accepting his word. I don't, I can see for myself. You are wrong, period. |
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