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10/1/2008 11:34:47 PM EDT
I am needing a crowbar for something, so I was thinking well maybe its time to go and buy one of those titanium ones.

Where is a good place to order one from?
10/1/2008 11:40:23 PM EDT
[#1]
Whats wrong with the steel ones?
10/1/2008 11:41:31 PM EDT
[#2]
www.materials.com/Titanium_tools.HTML

10/1/2008 11:41:36 PM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
I am needing a crowbar for something, so I was thinking well maybe its time to go and buy one of those titanium ones.

Where is a good place to order one from?



www.qualitysafetytools.com/ccp0-prodshow/T-CRWB.html
T-CRWB - Titanium crow bar 18''

Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic

Price:
$160.00
10/1/2008 11:44:58 PM EDT
[#4]
One fit for Freeman.
10/1/2008 11:45:10 PM EDT
[#5]
I'd get a FUBAR too, while I'm at it.
10/1/2008 11:47:41 PM EDT
[#6]

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Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic



10/1/2008 11:48:39 PM EDT
[#7]

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Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic





Yeah, I've got no idea on that one either.
10/1/2008 11:51:01 PM EDT
[#8]
Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.
10/1/2008 11:51:20 PM EDT
[#9]

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Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic





Nickel allergies are very common and I'd imagine that cheaper hand tools probably have some nickel in them if not coated with it.
10/1/2008 11:52:54 PM EDT
[#10]
If your going to spend $160.00 on a crowbar might as well go all out spend an extra 20-40 and get this


The Hooligan Bar.
When forcible entry is a must...
10/1/2008 11:57:47 PM EDT
[#11]

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Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic





Yeah, I've got no idea on that one either.


chrome/nickel are metals that a lot of people have a great degree of sensitivity to, most ear piercing infections are caused from these metals being in contact with the skin..cheap jewelry and watches tend to have the same effect....
10/2/2008 12:07:37 AM EDT
[#12]
Here are some cheaper ones.

$40 bucks, $53 for the 28'' version

I say go with a Haligan/Hooligan tool
10/2/2008 12:23:41 AM EDT
[#13]
While titanium is a "tactiCOOL" metal, steel is sometimes better for some things, a crowbar being one of them. That is if you actually intend to use it and abuse it the way a crowbar will be.
10/2/2008 12:29:03 AM EDT
[#14]

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Here are some cheaper ones.

$40 bucks, $53 for the 28'' version

I say go with a Haligan/Hooligan tool


Man, that seems awfully cheap for that quantity of titanium.
10/2/2008 12:35:18 AM EDT
[#15]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


It's actually a little heavier than aluminum and weaker than steel by volume, it's about twice as strong as either by weight.

Steel is way better for edges, titanium gets brittle at a much lower hardness. I would imagine a titanium crowbar wouldn't wear very well, be sweet to have in an emergency though.
10/2/2008 12:37:11 AM EDT
[#16]
If I'm going to spend $160 on a crowbar, I want it to come with a Mexican to do the crowin'.  
10/2/2008 1:17:22 AM EDT
[#17]
You want steel for a prybar.
10/2/2008 1:27:53 AM EDT
[#18]
Another vote for steel.  Titanium is for airplanes.

Besides, steel will make for fewer swings per kill on head crabs.
10/2/2008 1:30:24 AM EDT
[#19]

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If your going to spend $160.00 on a crowbar might as well go all out spend an extra 20-40 and get this


The Hooligan Bar.
When forcible entry is a must...


Yeah, and I think you'll also need a sledge to make the most of that one
10/2/2008 1:32:40 AM EDT
[#20]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


It can also be brittle.

Use it for hitting stuff maybe, but for some tough wedging or prying, you just might break it.
10/2/2008 1:34:49 AM EDT
[#21]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


Steel doesn't spark???

Do you work around different steel than the rest of us?
10/2/2008 4:43:22 AM EDT
[#22]
ZOMBIES!
10/2/2008 5:09:39 AM EDT
[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


It can also be brittle.

Use it for hitting stuff maybe, but for some tough wedging or prying, you just might break it.


I'd 'spect that some alloys of Titanium would be too brittle for use as a prying tool.

Weren't there a bunch of Ti crowbars that came in CHEAP from Russia some years back?
10/2/2008 5:28:21 AM EDT
[#24]
The cheaper Russian ones were sold through Cheaper Than Dirt
10/2/2008 5:31:37 AM EDT
[#25]
I thought the knock against Titanium was that it was extremely hard, but brittle (i.e. it shatters instead of bending).... ?
10/2/2008 5:34:54 AM EDT
[#26]

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Titanium crow bar 18'' Non-Magnetic Hypoallergenic





Yeah, I've got no idea on that one either.


chrome/nickel are metals that a lot of people have a great degree of sensitivity to, most ear piercing infections are caused from these metals being in contact with the skin..cheap jewelry and watches tend to have the same effect....


I'm sure that the person with the allergy won't be too worried about a rash around the crushed portion of his skull!
10/2/2008 5:35:36 AM EDT
[#27]

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I thought the knock against Titanium was that it was extremely hard, but brittle (i.e. it shatters instead of bending).... ?


Pure Ti is not very hard, but its springiness makes it a bitch to machine. It can be alloyed for many different purposes.

A titanium crowbar makes sense if weight is an issue, or in a corrosive environment (e.g. at sea).
10/2/2008 5:47:57 AM EDT
[#28]
You need a Deadon Annihilator


tear shit up.


10/2/2008 5:51:51 AM EDT
[#29]

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If I'm going to spend $160 on a crowbar, I want it to come with a Mexican to do the crowin'.  


+1
10/2/2008 6:22:45 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
If I'm going to spend $160 on a crowbar, I want it to come with a Mexican to do the crowin'.  


10/2/2008 6:25:14 AM EDT
[#31]

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Whats wrong with the steel ones?


They don't cost enough and get along with gravity too well.
10/2/2008 6:29:21 AM EDT
[#32]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.



Since when?

I'll find a piece of steel when I want to make sparks.

Titanium and it's most common alloys are 50% denser than aluminum, about half that of steel.

Strength is variable.  It is as strong as steel alloys, but that doesn't tell you much as the strength could vary from 70 ksi to 200 ksi.  Not a useful measure without details.

Folks ought to get a little education before swallowing media hype and sales marketing.  Titanium crow bars are just a dumbass idea except maybe in a handful of specialty applications.  Anti spark ain't one.

10/2/2008 6:41:34 AM EDT
[#33]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.




Steel is the basis for those survival fire starters, because it makes a nice, strong spark.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_spark_lighter

A flint spark lighter (sometimes just called a spark lighter, striker, or flint lighter) is a type of lighter used in many applications to safely light a gaseous fuel to start a flame. It is most commonly used for bunsen burners and oxyacetylene welding torches.

A flint spark lighter works by rapidly rubbing a small piece of ferrocerium against a rough steel surface (also called the rasp), in much the same way flint and steel are used. This manual rubbing action, done by squeezing the handle, creates a spark which then lights the gaseous fuel.
10/2/2008 6:50:11 AM EDT
[#34]
I have one of those Ruskie crow bars, and they are okay, but I haven't used it for anything strenuous because I intend to use it in my BOB. I have ordinary "made in the USA" steel ones for everyday stuff around the house. They were bought at the Home Depot before they switched to the Chicom stuff 10 years ago.
10/2/2008 6:51:30 AM EDT
[#35]
Why, in the BLUE FUCK are you people paying $160 for a wrecking bar?

We have pry-bars, wrecking bars, crow bars,ect that have been in the family for 80 some odd years, and they are fine. I dare say we have used them as much as a tool of that nature can be used.
10/2/2008 8:48:56 AM EDT
[#36]
what about a carbon composite crowbar since we are talking about exotic metals?

How well would a cf bar hold up?
10/2/2008 8:57:30 AM EDT
[#37]

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Why, in the BLUE FUCK are you people paying $160 for a wrecking bar?

We have pry-bars, wrecking bars, crow bars,ect that have been in the family for 80 some odd years, and they are fine. I dare say we have used them as much as a tool of that nature can be used.


+1
10/2/2008 8:58:19 AM EDT
[#38]

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Quoted:
Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


It's actually a little heavier than aluminum and weaker than steel by volume, it's about twice as strong as either by weight.

Steel is way better for edges, titanium gets brittle at a much lower hardness. I would imagine a titanium crowbar wouldn't wear very well, be sweet to have in an emergency though.


Steel:   ~.28 lbs/cu-in,   30,000,000 psi Young's Modulus (stiffness)
Ti:        ~.16 lbs/cu-in,   16,000,000 psi Young's Modulus
Alum:   ~.10 lbs/cu-in,    10,000,000 psi Young's Modulus.

The STRENGTH (ie, yield and failure) will vary with composition and heat treat.  Some aluminums are stronger than some mild steels.  But you can't get away from the basic mass and stiffness properties.

Ti can be brittle or not, depending on composition and heat treatment.  Just buying a "titanium" bar garuntees nothing, except status.  If that's what you buy a crowbar for, well, your choice is made...

Edit: not disputing K2QB3's post, just adding to it.
10/2/2008 8:59:15 AM EDT
[#39]

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what about a carbon composite crowbar since we are talking about exotic metals?

How well would a cf bar hold up?
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That's just stupid.  It would be okay for knocking a hole in drywall, but not for pulling the nails.

It's burnt string and glue.
10/2/2008 9:04:55 AM EDT
[#40]

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If I'm going to spend $160 on a crowbar, I want it to come with a Mexican to do the crowin'.  




I have to agree!
10/2/2008 9:08:06 AM EDT
[#41]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


It's also pretty elastic and will flex way more than steel of comparable thickness. Depends what you're gonna use it for.
10/2/2008 9:11:33 AM EDT
[#42]

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Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


it also fatigues quickly and fails in shear. HOORAY for slicing your arm open on the fresh razor-sharp edgs of your broken pry-bar!


10/2/2008 9:16:04 AM EDT
[#43]

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It's burnt string and glue.


Best description ever...
10/2/2008 9:37:40 AM EDT
[#44]
I just bought standard steel wrecking bar for less than $20. Its some cheapo "True Temper" brand, made in India, so I doubt its the best steel or heat treated, but it works.

This same bar can be bought at Harbor Freight under their Central Forge brand.
10/2/2008 10:24:59 AM EDT
[#45]
I used to work in the medical equipment repair field and we had a variety of hand tools made out of titanium to work on or around MRI machines.  This is because it is non-magnetic.

Unless you are in a similarly specialized situation it would be a complete waste of your money.
10/2/2008 10:28:44 AM EDT
[#46]

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I'd get a FUBAR too, while I'm at it.
10/2/2008 10:31:23 AM EDT
[#47]
height=8
Quoted:
Steel doesn't spark.

Titanium is as light as aluminum and as strong as steel.


Realllllyyyy.

10/2/2008 10:32:27 AM EDT
[#48]
You never know.
You might have to pry something out of a MRI scanner someday.
10/2/2008 10:36:48 AM EDT
[#49]

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While titanium is a "tactiCOOL" metal, steel is sometimes better for some things, a crowbar being one of them. That is if you actually intend to use it and abuse it the way a crowbar will be.


Having worked with many different metals in the sheet metal shop, I would agree with this.
10/2/2008 11:39:17 AM EDT
[#50]

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You never know.
You might have to pry something out of a MRI scanner someday...


...when the power switch is jammed in the 'on' position...and the electricity can't be cut....
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