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11/24/2006 10:44:45 AM EDT
:mad:

We live in a little secluded suburban community with one way in and one day out, so this definately wasn't random.

A few weeks ago, poppadukes' car was keyed, and a few months prior to that the same.

We're going to rig up some cameras, but what am I supposed to do about him? He's a good man, but he's a bit of a wimp and would never carry a firearm. I guess I'll talk to him tonight and see if he can prove me wrong.

What bothers me is that it's been escalating. First keying the car, now someone brings a knife to cut our tires. If he'd been outside and stumbled upon the bastard, g-d knows what could have happened.

This is all fine and dandy except that I have to go back to school in a couple days so I won't be around to hold down the fort. Mamabear keeps my AK under her bed, but I've only shown her how to use it a hand full of times and she's never shot it.

Makes me worry a lot that neither of them care about their personal safety. How am I supposed to talk to them?
11/24/2006 10:47:25 AM EDT
[#1]
Does your ride have any bumperstickers on it expressing support for George Bush?
11/24/2006 11:04:28 AM EDT
[#2]
Do you have a garage ?
11/24/2006 11:07:15 AM EDT
[#3]
Did you ask your neighbors if they saw anything suspicious?  I would definately go with a camera, like you mentioned.

--VT
11/24/2006 11:09:42 AM EDT
[#4]
Maybe it was Goldilocks?
11/24/2006 11:13:03 AM EDT
[#5]
11/24/2006 11:15:25 AM EDT
[#6]
forget to invite someone for turkey dinner?
11/24/2006 11:16:22 AM EDT
[#7]
Have you filed any complaints with the PD for any of these incidents?

Not that I'm all that confident that they would be able or willing to do anything about it.

Never know.  Someone might get a wild hair up their ass and intensify, or even

establish patrolling in your neighborhood if non-existent.

Worked for me.  Didn't keep my neighbor the local drug dealer from getting eliminated

by the competition or his credtiors.  Who knows, maybe it was someone who was

related to his babys' mama, whom he took Saturdays off to beat on.


... Anyways, it would help to establish a paper trail and show that there was an  

escalating threat just in case a limp body is found in that driveway one morning.
11/24/2006 11:17:35 AM EDT
[#8]
could even be one of your neighbors? are there any neighbors on your street that dont like you?
11/24/2006 11:18:20 AM EDT
[#9]
All you you can do is call 911, take their picture, and scare them off.  You know them, press charges.  

You shoot one unless being attacked with deadly force then you are going to jail.  Even if you do everything right you might, since a case can be made, AK waiting on them, you intended to do it all along and set a trap.  Hurt them or detain them, then it's a lawsuit.  Detain them without proof, well lawsuit again for it becomes their word against yours.  

Of course, you could do it the redneck way.  Find out who it is, catch them alone, no witnesses, and XXXXXX.  Your word against thiers and you know nothing except that guy hates you and I was home with XXX, ask them.

Tj
11/24/2006 12:02:55 PM EDT
[#10]
Well I'm all out of claymores, so the "Front Toward Enemy" approach is out of the question.

Nobody on the street hates me, I think it's some disgruntled employee of my father's. Like I said, somebody comes by every once in a while and keys his car. I guess they knifed my tire just because it was there, but they knifed two of his.  

I filed a police report but there's nothing they can really do. I didn't see who did it. For shits and giggles I checked my dirty-ass car for prints (which of course would mean nothing, but what the hell, I'll play detective), nothing there.

The whole mother-with-AK comment was more of a "what if" thing than anything else. She wouldn't go after someone, nor would I advise her to, but it starts with bimonthly keyings, then tire slashings...it seems like this asshole is getting more aggressive. I hope I'm wrong, but it's possible that the person may make an attempt at breaking in at some point.

It's pretty obvious that the beef is with my father, which is unfortunate because as much as I love the man, he's kind of a pussy.

So, I figure, we do the camera thing now, hopefully catch the guy before it escalates into a breakin-type thing g-d forbid.

11/24/2006 12:03:55 PM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:
Do you have a garage ?


Sure, two car garage but 3 cars. Survey says it's my car that's going to get the shitty end of the stick.
11/24/2006 12:07:38 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Did you ask your neighbors if they saw anything suspicious?  I would definately go with a camera, like you mentioned.

--VT


I went to sleep at about 5 in the morning last night. I *thought* I heard and saw something outside looking at me through the window on the side of our house but figured "WTF it's 5 in the morning, you're hallucinating, go to sleep".

What really bothers me is that some ninja gear was visible through the window (I was "rolling my own" making some MOLLE shit and left it on the table), and where there's ninja gear, these's usually ninja tools.
11/24/2006 10:51:22 PM EDT
[#13]
A camera would work, but I'm wondering about lighting.  I know current cam corders (some) have a low light fuction, but how long will it be recording????

11/24/2006 11:03:15 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
A camera would work, but I'm wondering about lighting.  I know current cam corders (some) have a low light fuction, but how long will it be recording????



We've got a light that goes on when it senses motion. I'm guessing we could rig the camera up the same way and be creative about sensors and whatnot.

But if teh predator comes to slash my tires I think I'm pretty screwed.

A Metal Storm would work though. Someone here has to have the hookup.
11/24/2006 11:11:38 PM EDT
[#15]
Game camera.
11/24/2006 11:18:07 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Game camera.


+1
11/24/2006 11:55:43 PM EDT
[#17]
Hmmmm...

Game camera...with or without whistle stop?

I want the person to look at it so I can ID them. Deer and idiots are probably both going to look in the direction of a whistle.

The IR ones are almost a grand. So it's either that or a flash. The issue with the flash is that if the guy finds out where it is, he can get the pictures and steal my $400 game camera.
11/25/2006 12:03:51 AM EDT
[#18]
I'd do the Game Camera thing for sure, I'm having similar problems myself at the moment, a little different, my truck was broken into 2 weeks ago and $1300 of stereo equipment lost, my step bro's car got jacked, and just yesterday he got jumped by some guys....this is all in the good part of town. so yeah I'm doing a game camera, only way to catch the bastards here.

Good luck with your problem man, I feel for you, its a shitty feeling when someone messes with your ride, even worse to have to worry about your parent's safety. I hope you catch the people that are doing it.
11/25/2006 12:19:39 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Game camera.


+1


Didn't think of that.... but a simple solution.  Just hide it well....

Looked on Walmart website.... they have a few available.  One is under $100, while the rest  is in the $130-160 range.  The latter having night video as an option.

Camera specs

That gives me an idea for cheap security here at my place......
11/25/2006 12:36:44 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
I'd do the Game Camera thing for sure, I'm having similar problems myself at the moment, a little different, my truck was broken into 2 weeks ago and $1300 of stereo equipment lost, my step bro's car got jacked, and just yesterday he got jumped by some guys....this is all in the good part of town. so yeah I'm doing a game camera, only way to catch the bastards here.

Good luck with your problem man, I feel for you, its a shitty feeling when someone messes with your ride, even worse to have to worry about your parent's safety. I hope you catch the people that are doing it.


Thanks a lot mate.

It's not even that someone is prowling around my property at night that bothers me, it's the fact that most of the year I'm not here to watch out for them.

My father has trouble walking even with a cane (he's got MS), so he's not really physically able to protect himself. My mother is kind of feeble but more mobile. I know my father couldn't hit shit with the .38 I gave him, I offered to take him to the range, and his response is, "I'll know how to use it if I have to". Mother's the same way, but she at least has shot before.

When he's home, he sleeps on the couch a lot because of his back. Downstairs that is, so he doesn't even have a locked door between him and a potential intruder.

11/25/2006 12:40:22 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Game camera.


+1


Didn't think of that.... but a simple solution.  Just hide it well....

Looked on Walmart website.... they have a few available.  One is under $100, while the rest  is in the $130-160 range.  The latter having night video as an option.

Camera specs


That gives me an idea for cheap security here at my place......
Much more affordable than the other ones I saw.

Thank you for the link.

I think this one can detect game at night but it requires a flash to take the picture?

Short of rigging it with legally inexplicable nastiness, I'm not sure how to prevent someone from jacking it after it snaps the picture short of mounting it in an inaccessible place.

I guess we could install more lights, but the problem is that the way we have to park, the lights on the garage won't illuminate that area enough to really get a good pic if the person stays low. The surprise element of the flash is kinda dastardly, like a big "I caught you, you fucker" statement but I'd have to secure it somehow.

Actually, could do it cheap with one of those alarms that goes off when the two sensors part from each other. They make them for windows.

www.fdp-spywatch.com/magneticalarm.htm
11/25/2006 11:07:22 AM EDT
[#22]
Update:

Mommadukes thinks that the guy from the "spy shop" in town (don't ask) can do a better job than ARFcom with Walmart hunting cams. So, he's coming by today, we're going to get a quote, see how f-'ed in the a' were going to be, and then decide whether or not to leave this up to me or go with James Bond from the "spy shop".

Update 2:

Guy quoted us at $1,200 for set and installed 2 VGA video NV cameras...basically very expensive with very limited coverage.

I'm going to see what it would take to use game cams. The only issue with the game cam is that the camera is in the aperture itself, so the person could just take the whole thing. With a surveillance cam, the video is stored away from the camera itself so if you destroy the camera the film is still good.

BTW, do you think these things are legal in the US?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BURGLAR-ALARM-GUN-12-GAUGE-BLANK-FIRER-FARM-GATES-SHEDS_W0QQitemZ290050551525QQihZ019QQcategoryZ41969QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting