[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Tips On Pumping Gas! (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 3/27/2008 1:14:56 PM EDT
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I got this in an email and thought I would share it with the hive of ARFcom. Hopefully you find it useful. hit a +1 or something to keep it alive and let everybody enjoy the knowledge. I have found this to be true. Being involved in aviation, I have learned that gas, when cold does become more dense, so you therefor get more for your money. There is also a list of places that import middle eastern oil and the ones that don't. I am not telling you where to buy gas, but the information is good and you can take it as it stands. Please IM me any extra info or anything you feel would be a good addition. If this is a big hit, maybe it can get a tack so everyone can enjoy the info. Enjoy: TIPS ON PUMPING GAS I don't know what you guys are paying for gasoline.... But here in California we are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.. Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose , CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons. Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diesel and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps. When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3)stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money. One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount. Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some f the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money. DO SHARE THESE TIPS WITH OTHERS! WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil. These companies import Middle Eastern oil: Shell........................... 205,742,000 barrels Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels Amoco............................62,231,000 barrels Citgo gas is from South America. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil: Sunoco..................0 barrels Conoco.................0 barrels Sinclair................0 barrels B P/Phillips............0 barrels Hess.......................0 barrels ARC0....................0 barrels If you go to Sunoco.Com, you will get a list of the station locations near you. All of this information is available from the Department of Energy and each is required to state where they get their oil and how much they are importing. |
Yep. Fuel is stored in underground tanks at filling stations. The temperature variations just are not there. The article is BS, but it just won't go away!!! Variations of this email spam have been around for over 10 years. We should be more concerned with the threat of Dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO). The stuff is everywhere and can kill you! |
We got all the DHMO out of the creeks around here but the concentration in the public water supply are as high as ever 
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Would not the gas temperature be more controlled by the temperature of the day that the tanker was driving around in? Hot day = warm gas, while Cold day = cool gas. And it's likely to stay close to that temperature in the underground tank. Basically, we get a deal in the winter, and ripped off in the summer. To the tune of a couple tenths of a penny every fill up.... |
It does matter a small amout though. During the day the sun heats the ground and it will warm the layers or ground the underground storage tanks are at. Just a few degress of variation can make a difference. It may not be a lot, but I figured if I fill my truck up and saved 30 cents each time, it would make a difference. Plus, all the lines and covers also heat up during the day, which transfers down to the gas below. Filling in the middle of the night or really early in the morning will help just a bit. Everyone complains about gas prices and then takes a shit on this post which I was trying to help people with. If you don't like it, don't post. |
Sorry, you only got called out on email spam. Again, the extremely small temperature variations in an underground tank have little effect. Guess what happens when the tanker fill up the underground tank in the morning? In the summer, the tanker's fuel will be a lot warmer than the underground temperature. When you fill up the car/truck in the morning after the tanks are filled, you are worse off. |
LOL!!!  Get him. I think we crashed that site BTW. |
When I get on the engine hard and shift at 10,000 RPM, I still get 70 MPG. Go figure that. |
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One problem with the fungibility argument though: -even if the refined gasoline all comes from the same handful of refineries, the middle-east owned CORPORATIONS will still profit if you choose to do business with them. Yes I know about the fuel supply. Yes I understand the small-time franchise owner has to eat. Yes I know most of its taxes. BUT: you can choose who profits in the end. You choose: us or them? |
Safety guy at work insists all liquids be clearly marked.. I had a stencil with 1" letters of "Dihydrogen Monoxide" and tagged up all Arrowhead bottles in the rack. (About 60 bottles) Safety guy got laughed at by the Arrowhead guys when he called to bitch them out! |
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Its temperature compensated at the rack when loaded and should be at the pump when its calibrated which should be done monthly. Some pumps also have a temp compensation in the pump. Changes in volume in an underground tank, no way would it effect what you get at the pump. Its in their tank not yours anyway, besides when we stick tanks that are 6-10k gallons above ground you see maybe a 10-20 gallon difference, in 10k gallons again that wouldnt effect whats metered out through the pump. One last thing, tanks are set to leave fuel below the pickup so that trash is left on the bottom and with how light fuel oils and gasoline are compared to water and dirt its really hard to get any thing stirred up and into a car. Now, when you think you got some water in your tank, its usually from condesation of the tank in your car not the tank at the station. When you get a load of bad gas you probably hit a heating oil/kerosene/diesel spot in the gasoline. The stuff doesnt separate that well from gasoline when mixed in and it does get mixed in more often than youd know. |
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Don't get your undies in a twist junior. The crowd at ARFCOM is not comprised of the average uninformed rube that partakes and propagates chain emails. If you get it in an email, it has been posted here at least 10 times. |
And the flaw there is ALL MIDDLE-EASTERN OWNED CORPORATIONS DO NOT OWN THE RETAIL OUTLETS. THEY ARE FRANCHISE BUSINESSES AND MOST DO NOT HAVE TO BUY THEIR FUEL FROM THE REFINERY. Why? Unless the retail outlet it within 50 miles of the refinery, the fuel is transported though pipelines that are independent of the refinery. First sale happens at the refinery property line, called the "gate" where title to the product transfers to the pipeline owner/operator. It travels for the bulk of the travel in the pipeline to the terminal where it is then sold to the retailer and taxes are levied. Then title transfers at the rack. The pipeline operator cannot tell which refinery the product came from as it is usually mixed with other refinery outputs. There are usually multiple terminals along the way, further complicating the source and then there is always tankage where products from all the refineries mixes according to grade. Every so often, products are changed from say 87 octane gasoline to #2 oil (diesel) and in between, a series of moving plugs called pigs keeps the products seperate, for a bit. In between these plugs is a mix (transmix) which is variable in composition and usually sold for commercial furnace fuel, like cement kilns and the like. If you think boycotting Citgo will hurt PDVSA, think again. It will only hurt the store you don't buy from and then only to the tune of $0.040 a gallon. They make more profit on a package of smokes than from a gallon of gas. |
just trying to help people, but i expected the morons to start posting their BS. probably the low self esteem who have nothing productive to do in their day. |
Passing on forwarded emails is not helping... Oh and BTW, if someone flashes their lights at you in their car, it's probably NOT a gang initiation. Oh yeah, Microsoft won't pay you a dime for forwarding an email to "test their system" either. And that email you got saying that your long lost relative from Mozambique just died and left you his millions, don't send them the $3000 they're asking for, it's a scam 
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