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Posted: 7/24/2013 12:00:52 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/25/2013 6:24:10 AM EST by Aimless]
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:02:44 PM EST
that's sad
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:04:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 12:06:38 PM EST by Zcwilkins]
Huh? How can they get away with 3 charges for possession of the same item? I'm guessing all 3 resided/were on the lease, is that a standard practice?

ETA - Or is that how they attempt to get someone to admit to possession of something, charge everyone to attempt to guilt the owner into admission?
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Huh? How can they get away with 3 charges for possession of the same item? I'm guessing all 3 resided/were on the lease, is that a standard practice?
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"

How would it work if all 3 reside there and no one will admit to ownership? Can all 3 really be tried and found guilty?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:11:23 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:12:09 PM EST
Tick tick tick tick....
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:12:17 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
How would it work if all 3 reside there and no one will admit to ownership? Can all 3 really be tried and found guilty?
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1/3 sentence each?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:12:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 12:13:17 PM EST by DarkNite]
If they're dividing the charges three-ways they should split the mag capacity three ways, to.

If it's a 30-rnd mag, then each is only responsible for 10 rounds and hence innocent of any charge!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:15:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 12:16:09 PM EST by sbhaven]
It should be noted that the magazine/drugs were found after a "probation department search of 125 Stinard St., said Sgt. Tom Connellan."

ETA: also from the story; "People on probation are subject to periodic search. It was during one of those searches the high-capacity magazine was found."
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:15:26 PM EST
Somebody there was on probation. You are subject to search while on probation,and they had weed. Play stupid games................
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:15:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
And this is one of the counties that supposedly objects to the SAFE act http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/Onondaga-County-to-call-on-state-to-reverse-SAFE/S9_pouHdzEic4wlA1prLqQ.cspx
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Residents of NY have to know that the "opposition" means exactly squat.

Does anybody up there really believe their local law enforcement won't just feed them into the state woodchipper if they give them half a reason?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:16:49 PM EST
I thought cops didn't support this law and wouldn't enforce it.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:16:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DarkNite:
If they're dividing the charges three-ways they should split the mag capacity three ways, to.

If it's a 30-rnd mag, then each is only responsible for 10 rounds and hence innocent of any charge!
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The wisdon of Solomon I tells ya!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:17:14 PM EST
That is very messed up.

I hope the defense can establish some beneficial precedence.

Three on a hook, that is just wrong.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:17:54 PM EST
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Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
I thought cops didn't support this law and wouldn't enforce it.
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They do. But they still have to follow orders, ya know.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:22:06 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:22:16 PM EST
And they'll get there because eventually they will get 2 of 3 to agree that number 3 is the guy they want.


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Originally Posted By Aimless:
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Huh? How can they get away with 3 charges for possession of the same item? I'm guessing all 3 resided/were on the lease, is that a standard practice?
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:23:39 PM EST
Well time to lawyer up then.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:25:11 PM EST
Fuck NY

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:26:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Aimless:
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"
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Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Huh? How can they get away with 3 charges for possession of the same item? I'm guessing all 3 resided/were on the lease, is that a standard practice?
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"


Same shit they do with drug charges. In a room with 5 guys and one bag of dope? Oh well, you all "possessed" it so you're all getting charged.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:28:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Andrapos:



CT has a statute like that in regards to machine guns that are (illegally) possessed for an "offensive purpose"

53-202

(e) The presence of a machine gun in any room, boat or vehicle shall be presumptive evidence of the possession or use of the machine gun by each person occupying such room, boat or vehicle.

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(h) No provision of this section shall apply to: (3) a machine gun acquired, transferred or possessed in accordance with the National Firearms Act, as amended...
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Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Originally Posted By Aimless:
Originally Posted By Zcwilkins:
Huh? How can they get away with 3 charges for possession of the same item? I'm guessing all 3 resided/were on the lease, is that a standard practice?
They arrested all three figuring "fuck it one of them is guilty"

How would it work if all 3 reside there and no one will admit to ownership? Can all 3 really be tried and found guilty?



CT has a statute like that in regards to machine guns that are (illegally) possessed for an "offensive purpose"

53-202

(e) The presence of a machine gun in any room, boat or vehicle shall be presumptive evidence of the possession or use of the machine gun by each person occupying such room, boat or vehicle.

Followed by

(h) No provision of this section shall apply to: (3) a machine gun acquired, transferred or possessed in accordance with the National Firearms Act, as amended...

What the fuck man, that's insane.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:29:21 PM EST
They didn't even have a gun.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:30:31 PM EST
30 round mag, 3 guys, that's 10 bullets a piece, right?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:30:42 PM EST
Fuck the cops enforcing this.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:32:30 PM EST
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Originally Posted By bodybagger:
Somebody there was on probation. You are subject to search while on probation,and they had weed. Play stupid games................
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Since when is possessing a standard capacity magazine a "stupid game?"
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:35:32 PM EST
Still waiting on my sheriff to come arrest me, They know what I have.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:35:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By akrado:
They didn't even have a gun.
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That excuse only works if you're liberal, famous, and elite, like David Gregory.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:36:23 PM EST
Yeah but the police won't enforce unconstitutional laws so this really didn't happen.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:38:37 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Weld4fun:
Yeah but the police won't enforce unconstitutional laws so this really didn't happen.
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Beat me by two minutes.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:43:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 12:43:44 PM EST by xcell]
They where doing a random inspection because they have been arrested before.
On top of the they had drugs with a hi cap.

People on probation are subject to periodic search. It was during one of those searches the high-capacity magazine was found. The law prohibits magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds.
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Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:43:26 PM EST
...and weed.

Talk about the government going out of their way to create criminals out of thin air.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:48:42 PM EST
These hoodlums needed to be pulled from the streets, all three of them were a criminal time bomb just ticking away.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:49:10 PM EST
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Originally Posted By xcell:
They where doing a random inspection because they have been arrested before.
On top of the they had drugs with a hi cap.

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Originally Posted By xcell:
They where doing a random inspection because they have been arrested before.
On top of the they had drugs with a hi cap.

People on probation are subject to periodic search. It was during one of those searches the high-capacity magazine was found. The law prohibits magazines with a capacity of more than 10 rounds.

Any chance you can explain why the federal government needed a constitutional amendment to ban alcohol but they didn't need one to ban a plant?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:52:56 PM EST
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:01:21 PM EST
What's the likelihood they were initially dinged for the weed, acted like asshats, and one of the cops said "fine, fuck you" and dinged them for the mag too?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:06:37 PM EST
[Last Edit: 7/24/2013 1:07:57 PM EST by Aimless]
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Originally Posted By jon7400:
What's the likelihood they were initially dinged for the weed, acted like asshats, and one of the cops said "fine, fuck you" and dinged them for the mag too?
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Oh, that's different. Because if you offend a cop's delicate sensibilities, then all your constitutional rights go right out the fucking door and you deserve to be charged with all manner of bullshit he can think of.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:17:50 PM EST
3 guys, one mag
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:24:20 PM EST
I'd bet it was a pmag.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:25:07 PM EST
Not cool
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:26:00 PM EST
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Originally Posted By DarkNite:
If they're dividing the charges three-ways they should split the mag capacity three ways, to.

If it's a 30-rnd mag, then each is only responsible for 10 rounds and hence innocent of any charge!
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There were 24 rounds loaded in the mag. 24/3=8. Eight in the mag is now illegal in NYS!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:29:11 PM EST



equal enforcement?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:30:49 PM EST
What's this... a pothead on parole forgot that contraband could pose a problem? The hell you say!
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:35:04 PM EST
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Journalists are above the law.


Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:40:14 PM EST
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Prosecuting people with Down's syndrome is an uphill legal battle, sometimes.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 1:42:35 PM EST
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Originally Posted By c0t0d0s0:
I thought cops didn't support this law and wouldn't enforce it.
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This. Fuck NY. How or why anyone still lives there is beyond me.
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