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Posted: 4/25/2014 12:57:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/25/2014 1:00:12 PM EDT by BigPony]
I know that the High Points have a fairly poor reputation overall, but the High Point Carbine seems pretty good imo. A co-worker has one and I know it is decent. I was thinking of one in .40 cal for my trunk for shtf type situations. I can pick one up for $285 NIB from a LGS. They also have a High Point .40 cal Pistol I can get for $185 and they would be able to share ammo and mags. If for some reason my car were to be stolen or broken into I would be out under 500 bucks on 2 weapons, but barring that, I would have basically back-up to my back up as 99% of the time I leave the house I have my Primary on me and typically my LCR .38 SPL as a back up. These High Points would supplement them by becoming weapons to a secondary person I would trust if things were to go sideways, or just extra cheap firearms always at my disposal.

What say you oh mighty Arfcommers?
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 12:58:39 PM EDT
AR pistol.
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FPNI
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:02:00 PM EDT
if you want to buy a new gun then buy a new gun.
but leaving guns in unattended vehicles is just a bad idea.
just my opinion
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:02:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chop13chop:
AR pistol.
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AK Pistol
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AK Pistol
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Originally Posted By chop13chop:
AR pistol.


AK Pistol


Wouldn't transporting a trash can everywhere be kind of suspicious?
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:04:38 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BigPony:


I know that the High Points have a fairly poor reputation overall, but the High Point Carbine seems pretty good imo. A co-worker has one and I know it is decent. I was thinking of one in .40 cal for my trunk for shtf type situations. I can pick one up for $285 NIB from a LGS. They also have a High Point .40 cal Pistol I can get for $185 and they would be able to share ammo and mags. If for some reason my car were to be stolen or broken into I would be out under 500 bucks on 2 weapons, but barring that, I would have basically back-up to my back up as 99% of the time I leave the house I have my Primary on me and typically my LCR .38 SPL as a back up. These High Points would supplement them by becoming weapons to a secondary person I would trust if things were to go sideways, or just extra cheap firearms always at my disposal.



What say you oh mighty Arfcommers?

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AFTER purchasing a locking mechanism that can be bolted to the vehicle... A cheap ak folder would be my buy

 
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Originally Posted By azarak512:
if you want to buy a new gun then buy a new gun.
but leaving guns in unattended vehicles is just a bad idea.
just my opinion
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Originally Posted By azarak512:
if you want to buy a new gun then buy a new gun.
but leaving guns in unattended vehicles is just a bad idea.
just my opinion


There definitely is merit to that - and it is the reason I have been afraid to leave a standard costing weapon in my trunk.

Originally Posted By Commando223:
Originally Posted By chop13chop:
AR pistol.


AK Pistol


I like your thinking sir!

Oh, and Little Pony is fine with the High Point carbine idea, but does not think the pistol is a good idea.
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Wouldn't transporting a trash can everywhere be kind of suspicious?
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
Originally Posted By chop13chop:
AR pistol.


AK Pistol


Wouldn't transporting a trash can everywhere be kind of suspicious?


Lol
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:09:48 PM EDT
I've been considering getting Glocks for all of my vehicles. Cheap, functional, and if they get stolen what the fuck do I care - they're Glocks.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:13:25 PM EDT
Why the hell would you do a hi-point when you can do a Glock-mag Sub 2000 for not much more, and it folds up?
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I've been considering getting Glocks for all of my vehicles. Cheap, functional, and if they get stolen what the fuck do I care - they're Glocks.
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The AK/trash can filler of the pistol world.

Serially, I have a $100 thutty-aught 98 Mauser beater, a $60 .22 LR single-shot rifle, and a ~$300 cop trade-in Smith 66 .357 that live in my truck.  If you're gonna go long gun, at least make it in a caliber with useful power!
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Wouldn't transporting a trash can everywhere be kind of suspicious?
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Originally Posted By Commando223:
Originally Posted By chop13chop:
AR pistol.


AK Pistol


Wouldn't transporting a trash can everywhere be kind of suspicious?


Not if your vehicle is a rolling trash can like most peoples
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Why the hell would you do a hi-point when you can do a Glock-mag Sub 2000 for not much more, and it folds up?
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Well you can do the sub 2000 but still need the pistol as well. Ends up being quite a bit a more.
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Well you can do the sub 2000 but still need the pistol as well. Ends up being quite a bit a more.
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Originally Posted By BigPony:
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Why the hell would you do a hi-point when you can do a Glock-mag Sub 2000 for not much more, and it folds up?


Well you can do the sub 2000 but still need the pistol as well. Ends up being quite a bit a more.


My toss-around weapons cut the costs in that. Sub 2000, 59 mag version, paired with a Daewoo K5 that uses the same mags. Well. They USED to be cheap. Sarco had them for $250 years ago.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:17:52 PM EDT
mossberg 500 and G22
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AFTER purchasing a locking mechanism that can be bolted to the vehicle... A cheap ak folder would be my buy  
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Originally Posted By Diesel_Maximus_2992:
Originally Posted By BigPony:
I know that the High Points have a fairly poor reputation overall, but the High Point Carbine seems pretty good imo. A co-worker has one and I know it is decent. I was thinking of one in .40 cal for my trunk for shtf type situations. I can pick one up for $285 NIB from a LGS. They also have a High Point .40 cal Pistol I can get for $185 and they would be able to share ammo and mags. If for some reason my car were to be stolen or broken into I would be out under 500 bucks on 2 weapons, but barring that, I would have basically back-up to my back up as 99% of the time I leave the house I have my Primary on me and typically my LCR .38 SPL as a back up. These High Points would supplement them by becoming weapons to a secondary person I would trust if things were to go sideways, or just extra cheap firearms always at my disposal.

What say you oh mighty Arfcommers?
AFTER purchasing a locking mechanism that can be bolted to the vehicle... A cheap ak folder would be my buy  

An under folder AK is what I'd like to get. As an aside, your avatar is memologically incorrect. Doge disproves.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 1:29:17 PM EDT
S&W SD9/SD40 VE

Occasionally $289 at Academy. Regular price is $319
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$859.60 doesn't seem like a cheap vehicle weapon. You can buy a cheap AR-15 and a used Glock for that price.
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But yeah.. that would be too pricey to risk it possibly being stolen and whatnot.
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$859.60 doesn't seem like a cheap vehicle weapon. You can buy a cheap AR-15 and a used Glock for that price.
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$859.60 doesn't seem like a cheap vehicle weapon. You can buy a cheap AR-15 and a used Glock for that price.



This is the fundamental unit you order to fit your Glock. It comes fully assembled and test fired. It includes only what is shown above plus one standard Glock Block. Nothing else is included with the BASIC unit. At the right is shown what can be done by adding accessories. Accessories are ordered separately - see ACCESSORIES page.. Please specify Glock pistol model when ordering. Accessories which are ordered at the same time you order a BASIC unit include free installation.

BASIC UNIT GLK $359.95  Thought everyone owned a glock or 2


Link Posted: 4/25/2014 2:17:46 PM EDT
My only concern with a High Point carbine is that it's only a 9mm.  For my truck gun  I'd rather have a rifle caliber carbine like an AR, an AK, a Mini 14 or even an AR pistol with a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel, just to have capability to deal with problems out to 200 yards.  A pistol caliber carbine simply isn't going to give you that kind of range, be it 9mm, 45ACP or any other popular pistol round.
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My only concern with a High Point carbine is that it's only a 9mm.  For my truck gun  I'd rather have a rifle caliber carbine like an AR, an AK, a Mini 14 or even an AR pistol with a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel, just to have capability to deal with problems out to 200 yards.  A pistol caliber carbine simply isn't going to give you that kind of range, be it 9mm, 45ACP or any other popular pistol round.
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Ok, so I just got back from the gunshop and I picked them up They are both .40 cal btw :) Thanks for all the thoughts and suggestions arfcom!

btw, this lgs just a couple minutes from where I live has the 4473 on the computer like a power point thingy. First time I have seen that. You just click yes or no to each question it asks you after the dealer types in your info and then it gets called in from there. I do not know if it goes any quicker really, but it seems nicer.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 2:53:21 PM EDT
This is Arfcom GD get both!
I'd look at an under folder AK and maybe one of the surplus Tok or Mak style pistols.
If its a "standard" pick up they make lock box / safes that fit behind the seat. If you have one of those you could fit a full sized AR behind the seat.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 2:57:13 PM EDT
In WV, and in most states, you can't keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle. That is why a lot of us stick with AK/AR pistols.
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Originally Posted By Jeff93:
In WV, and in most states, you can't keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle. That is why a lot of us stick with AK/AR pistols.
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With your permit in your state you still cannot keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle? With my permit I can even drive through a commie state like Illinois locked and loaded. I just cannot stop and get out
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 3:04:38 PM EDT
I alway view this on how much your life is worth? That said a Mossy 500 is GTG
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With your permit in your state you still cannot keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle?
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In WV, and in most states, you can't keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle. That is why a lot of us stick with AK/AR pistols.


With your permit in your state you still cannot keep a loaded rifle in your vehicle?

Nope. At least it is what the guy teaching my CCW class said.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 3:20:15 PM EDT
For all your viewing pleasure. The large, heavy, blockiness that is the High Point.

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If my goal was cheapest, I`d get a used 870, or mossberg maverick.
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Whatever you want to do.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 3:31:23 PM EDT
LOL...  Under an hour an a half from a poll "what should I buy" to bought at the gun shop.  Do you even poll, bro?
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LOL...  Under an hour an a half from a poll "what should I buy" to bought at the gun shop.  Do you even poll, bro?
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I am a master with the polle I also am very weak willed and followed the general trend in favor
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 3:43:02 PM EDT
ARF logic- buy a 3k range toy that you shoot once a month, then buy the cheapest POS to carry everyday that might be needed to save your life
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I am a master with the polle I also am very weak willed and followed the general trend in favor
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Originally Posted By Gator:
LOL...  Under an hour an a half from a poll "what should I buy" to bought at the gun shop.  Do you even poll, bro?


I am a master with the polle I also am very weak willed and followed the general trend in favor

chortle
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For all your viewing pleasure. The large, heavy, blockiness that is the High Point.

http://i.imgur.com/8N50pkx.jpg
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Sort of want.
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Why the hell would you do a hi-point when you can do a Glock-mag Sub 2000 for not much more, and it folds up?
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This
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Originally Posted By azarak512:
if you want to buy a new gun then buy a new gun.
but leaving guns in unattended vehicles is just a bad idea.
just my opinion
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this................

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 +1  That would be my go to.
Link Posted: 4/25/2014 6:28:09 PM EDT
I would have no qualm with keeping a cheap weapon in the veh as a backup "SHTF" type thing.
I used to carry my Draco in the back, until I SBRd it
So now I keep a 770 (270) back there. It may be only 4 rounds, but I can make em count

I also keep a 33 rd mag in it as well for my 19.

I want to build another AR pistol for just such a thing in 300blk.......
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Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN:
ARF logic- buy a 3k range toy that you shoot once a month, then buy the cheapest POS to carry everyday that might be needed to save your life
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Do you even read bro? This purchase was not every day carry for me. This is a back up to my back up basically. I have a good quality edc firearm AS Well as a good quality back up gun. These guns would be further back up to that or ones I could provide to a second person whom I trust who might not be armed in a shtf situation :)

Just got back from the range this morning btw, Did a crap ton of shooting. Shot my AR, XD.45 (primary edc), my LCR 38 spl (back up edc gun) and shot 250 rounds through the new .40 cal High Points. The Rifle was 100%. No issues of any sort whatsoever. (i expected this) Had 3 ftf issues with the handgun, however 2 of them were on the same round in different mags. I was using a mix of factory ammo, but I suspect that one particular round was slightly misshapen out of the box, so 1 single ftf out of 125 I put through it. I will polish the feed ramp really really good and see if the issue repeates, but I can live with a single ftf every 125 rounds or so from that gun, but it probably will lessen in number as it breaks in I am guessing.
Link Posted: 4/26/2014 6:09:56 AM EDT
Find an old beater shotgun or sporting rifle on the cheap. Quality is considerably better and it will be chambered in a round that justifies a long arm to begin with.
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Originally Posted By azarak512:
if you want to buy a new gun then buy a new gun.
but leaving guns in unattended vehicles is just a bad idea.
just my opinion
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Yep, Broken Arrow, OK PD lost an AR15 out of one of their patrol cars that was parked at a rookie's house over on Juniper Street one night last summer.

They is "profeshnul enuf", but they still lost it. Home Fries just graduated from his Hi-Point/Lorcin to some REAL hardware.




(PS: Don't tell anyone the PD lost a rifle...they did everything they could to sweep that little piece of news under the rug...)
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My Hipoint has proven to be more reliable and accurate than my Keltec.
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My Hipoint has proven to be more reliable and accurate than my Keltec.
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Why the hell would you do a hi-point when you can do a Glock-mag Sub 2000 for not much more, and it folds up?


My Hipoint has proven to be more reliable and accurate than my Keltec.


I was very impressed with that High Point carbine to be honest. Was shooting a bit high and right but it could have been me actually, Will have to shoot it a lot more to be certain. As for the .40cal HP hand gun it seemed ok. Had the one ftf for certain and it was decently accurate and I did shoot it last and was getting a bit weary by then having shot 4 other guns before it. Overall though, with all the horrible things I have heard and been told about HP's (and even telling myself I would never own one myself) they performed pretty well I have to say. When you factor in cost and bang for buck I was pleasantly surprised. Will have to see over time how my feeling stay on that. Next time they are in the rotation I should probably shoot them first instead of last as .40 cal is a little snappier and not as good to deal with when you are starting to feel a bit worn out.
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