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Posted: 9/30/2011 7:30:35 PM EST
We don't have the stomach for it.

Hispanic students vanish from Alabama schools

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama (AP) — Hispanic students have started vanishing from Alabama public schools in the wake of a court ruling that upheld the state's tough new law cracking down on illegal immigration.

Education officials say scores of immigrant families have withdrawn their children from classes or kept them home this week, afraid that sending the kids to school would draw attention from authorities.

There are no precise statewide numbers. But several districts with large immigrant enrollments — from small towns to large urban districts — reported a sudden exodus of children of Hispanic parents, some of whom told officials they planned to leave the state to avoid trouble with the law, which requires schools to check students' immigration status.

The anxiety has become so intense that the superintendent in one of the state's largest cities, Huntsville, went on a Spanish-language television show Thursday to try to calm widespread worries.

"In the case of this law, our students do not have anything to fear," Casey Wardynski said in halting Spanish. He urged families to send students to class and explained that the state is only trying to compile statistics.

Police, he insisted, were not getting involved in schools.

Victor Palafox graduated from a high school in suburban Birmingham last year and has lived in the United States without documentation since age 6, when his parents brought him and his brother here from Mexico.

"Younger students are watching their lives taken from their hands," said Palafox, whose family is staying put.

In Montgomery County, more than 200 Hispanic students were absent the morning after the judge's Wednesday ruling. A handful withdrew.

In tiny Albertville, 35 students withdrew in one day. And about 20 students in Shelby County, in suburban Birmingham, either withdrew or told teachers they were leaving.

Local and state officials are pleading with immigrant families to keep their children enrolled. The law does not ban anyone from school, they say, and neither students nor parents will be arrested for trying to get an education.

But many Spanish-speaking families aren't waiting around to see what happens.

A school worker in Albertville — a community with a large poultry industry that employs many Hispanic workers — said Friday that many families might leave town over the weekend for other states. About 22 percent of the community's 4,200 students are Hispanic.

"I met a Hispanic mother in the hallway at our community learning center this morning, where enrollment and withdrawal happens. She looked at me with tears in her eyes. I asked, 'Are you leaving?' She said 'Yes,' and hugged me, crying," said the worker, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not an authorized spokeswoman.

In Russellville, which has one of the largest immigrant populations in the state because of its poultry plants, overall school attendance was down more than 2 percent after the ruling, and the rate was higher among Hispanic students.

There's "no firm data yet, but several students have related to their teachers that they may be moving soon," said George Harper, who works in the central office.

Schools in Baldwin County, a heavily agricultural and tourist area near the Gulf Coast, and in Decatur in the Tennessee Valley also reported sudden decreases in Hispanic attendance.

The law does not require proof of citizenship to enroll, and it does not apply to any students who were enrolled before Sept. 1. While most students are not affected, school systems are supposed to begin checking the status of first-time enrollees now.

The Obama administration filed court documents Friday announcing its plans to appeal the ruling that upheld the law.

The state has distributed to schools sample letters that can be sent to parents of new students informing them of the law's requirements for either citizenship documents or sworn statements by parents.

In an attempt to ease suspicions that the law may lead to arrests, the letter tells parents immigration information will be used only to gather statistics.

"Rest assured," the letter states, "that it will not be a problem if you are unable or unwilling to provide either of the documents."
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:35:25 PM EST
Oh sure no one will think you're here illegally if you pull your kids out of school right before they check immigration status.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:36:32 PM EST
Self deportation FTW!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:37:26 PM EST
Originally Posted By DnPRK:
Self deportation FTW!


they're probably just moving from Alabama to Texas

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:38:45 PM EST
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:39:50 PM EST
Yeah, this happens again and again when anti illegal immigration laws are passed in an area. FEAR would drive them back across the border VERY efficiently if it was done on a national scale.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:40:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:41:05 PM EST
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:42:46 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:43:43 PM EST
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?


We have, just not enough and mostly the criminals.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:43:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 7:44:45 PM EST by MACD]
Have they given them taxpayer funded vouchers so they can attend private school yet?


Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?
We have, just not enough and mostly the criminals.
They're ALL criminals
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:47:38 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.


The bleeding hearts of those who love their illegal friends family is all over the place.

Yet iirc 80%+ in AL support the law.

Is it just that the 20% are the most vocal?

Where are the other 80% and why aren't they blowing up the superintendent's phones?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:48:13 PM EST
andnotasinglefuckwasgiventhatday.jpg
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:50:10 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:58:22 PM EST
Bye Bye
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 7:59:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By amendment:
Bye Bye


I don't think anybody is going anywhere
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:01:54 PM EST
Why do you hate the children?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:04:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 8:10:15 PM EST by CCW]
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
Originally Posted By DnPRK:
Self deportation FTW!


they're probably just moving from Alabama to Texas



FL


A school worker in Albertville — a community with a large poultry industry that employs many Hispanic workers — said Friday that many families might leave town over the weekend for other states. About 22 percent of the community's 4,200 students are Hispanic.

Or TN

"Storm Damage work" They're all in on it from the Big Insurance Companies to the stupid and/or crooked inspectors and adjusters to the contractors hiring undocumented workers below minimum wage. The Big Insurance Companies are turning around and picking the pocket of their rate payers with 15 to 50% rate increases now because we live in a "high risk storm area." They can all rot in hell.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:08:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.


The bleeding hearts of those who love their illegal friends family is all over the place.

Yet iirc 80%+ in AL support the law.

Is it just that the 20% are the most vocal?

Where are the other 80% and why aren't they blowing up the superintendent's phones?


Do you really think anyone gives a shit?

This is all media hyperbole except for the farm labor. I know farmers who saw this coming and went H2A they are fine.

The ones who only wanted to use swing through the state labor are the ones crying.

Apparently not.

I'm just a little surprised and disappointed that in a place as conservative as AL a solution to the illegal problem can't get a foothold.

That it's being sabotaged by .gov employees is something I'd expect of Sacramento, not Birmingham.

Fuck.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:10:10 PM EST
Originally Posted By MACD:
Have they given them taxpayer funded vouchers so they can attend private school yet?


Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?
We have, just not enough and mostly the criminals.
They're ALL criminals


According to some of the legal types around here, they technically are not.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:13:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.


The bleeding hearts of those who love their illegal friends family is all over the place.

Yet iirc 80%+ in AL support the law.

Is it just that the 20% are the most vocal?

Where are the other 80% and why aren't they blowing up the superintendent's phones?


Do you really think anyone gives a shit?

This is all media hyperbole except for the farm labor. I know farmers who saw this coming and went H2A they are fine.

The ones who only wanted to use swing through the state labor are the ones crying.

Apparently not.

I'm just a little surprised and disappointed that in a place as conservative as AL a solution to the illegal problem can't get a foothold.

That it's being sabotaged by .gov employees is something I'd expect of Sacramento, not Birmingham.

Fuck.


It has a foothold. Got to remember that all states have their idiots no matter how conservative most of the state may be. Ours are no different than yours. We just have less.

In other news if anyone is looking for work in landscaping I have a buddy that needs 6-8 folks. Seems his help didn't show up for work this morning.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:13:45 PM EST
Illegal immigration is just a way to get money from the government and our taxes, just another scam by the left.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:13:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:19:50 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:21:16 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:28:15 PM EST
Well ok then, I guess it's to be expected of school employees. Didn't think of that.

It would be nice to see any .gov employees who are aiding illegals thrown out on their fucking asses though.


Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:29:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.


The bleeding hearts of those who love their illegal friends family is all over the place.

Yet iirc 80%+ in AL support the law.

Is it just that the 20% are the most vocal?

Where are the other 80% and why aren't they blowing up the superintendent's phones?


Do you really think anyone gives a shit?

This is all media hyperbole except for the farm labor. I know farmers who saw this coming and went H2A they are fine.

The ones who only wanted to use swing through the state labor are the ones crying.

Apparently not.

I'm just a little surprised and disappointed that in a place as conservative as AL a solution to the illegal problem can't get a foothold.

That it's being sabotaged by .gov employees is something I'd expect of Sacramento, not Birmingham.

Fuck.


It has nothing to do with location ( I'm a Sacramento person and believe it or not the surrounding area is pretty consevative, downtown is a different story ) it's about education dollars, you think those administrators give a flying fuck about those kids, perhaps it's the 10k a year that they get for each one of the little bastards that attend the daycare centers they run.

It's all about the dollars, they don't give a shit about the kids.

Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:34:47 PM EST
A school worker in Albertville — a community with a large poultry industry that employs many Hispanic workers — said Friday that many families might leave town over the weekend for other states. About 22 percent of the community's 4,200 students are Hispanic.

"I met a Hispanic mother in the hallway at our community learning center this morning, where enrollment and withdrawal happens. She looked at me with tears in her eyes. I asked, 'Are you leaving?' She said 'Yes,' and hugged me, crying," said the worker, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not an authorized spokeswoman.


According to the school board 30 students in the city system have left or have indicated they are leaving. This includes children of non illegals who are moving for various reasons (end of the month- rent is due, etc.).

As for the poultry plants, there are some reports that an east coast employment agency is recruiting people here for political asylum to work. Maybe some hot babes from Khazakstan?
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:35:03 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/30/2011 8:36:21 PM EST by TKoProductions]
The districts aren't complaining out of compassion but instead out of greed.

They don't care the race of the child, so long as that child is sitting in a chair, the district receives funding.

Empty seats = lost "revenue"

I love how the articles calls them "immigrants." They didn't immigrate legally, hence they're ILLEGAL ALIENS, not immigrants.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:36:14 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:42:31 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By PinePig:
It has nothing to do with location ( I'm a Sacramento person and believe it or not the surrounding area is pretty consevative, downtown is a different story ) it's about education dollars, you think those administrators give a flying fuck about those kids, perhaps it's the 10k a year that they get for each one of the little bastards that attend the daycare centers they run.

It's all about the dollars, they don't give a shit about the kids.

[/div]

There are some schools that are 90% hispanic. I'm not sure what percentage are illegal or children of illegals.

Also AL law says your legal kids can stay or go with you but you can't stay if you are illegal.


To my knowledge Collinsville has the highest percentage in the state and it is around 80% now or was last I was told. Made the news a couple of years ago when it became the first majority minority hispanic school in the state. It's in my county. It is also a smaller school though (2A maybe?)
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:44:23 PM EST
Originally Posted By PinePig:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:

Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By DuraToTheMax:
So it's having the desired effect, and .gov officials are pandering to the illegals.


Awesome.


The bleeding hearts of those who love their illegal friends family is all over the place.

Yet iirc 80%+ in AL support the law.

Is it just that the 20% are the most vocal?

Where are the other 80% and why aren't they blowing up the superintendent's phones?


Do you really think anyone gives a shit?

This is all media hyperbole except for the farm labor. I know farmers who saw this coming and went H2A they are fine.

The ones who only wanted to use swing through the state labor are the ones crying.

Apparently not.

I'm just a little surprised and disappointed that in a place as conservative as AL a solution to the illegal problem can't get a foothold.

That it's being sabotaged by .gov employees is something I'd expect of Sacramento, not Birmingham.

Fuck.


It has nothing to do with location ( I'm a Sacramento person and believe it or not the surrounding area is pretty consevative, downtown is a different story ) it's about education dollars, you think those administrators give a flying fuck about those kids, perhaps it's the 10k a year that they get for each one of the little bastards that attend the daycare centers they run.

It's all about the dollars, they don't give a shit about the kids.



spot on my friend, when i was younger going to public schools in hawaii i was picked on constantly for allmost 5 years (without any real help from the school it self int he matter) finaly my dad had enough and told them he was pulling me out and they threatened him with legal action, they said a letter actually describing the nearly 6K dollars they were going to loose by me leaving the school singlely, all about fucking money and outside of the loss of income, they had nothing else to realy say of substance in the letter.
loosing all of those school kids is like losing 20-40% of there *income*
The thing that pisses me off about public schools is they are ran like a business, not a education center, i dont have kids yet but i wont let them touch a public school. fuck em
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:49:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:53:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
Originally Posted By amendment:
Bye Bye


I don't think anybody is going anywhere

You're killing my buzz!
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 8:55:17 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By moonjumper:
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By PinePig:
It has nothing to do with location ( I'm a Sacramento person and believe it or not the surrounding area is pretty consevative, downtown is a different story ) it's about education dollars, you think those administrators give a flying fuck about those kids, perhaps it's the 10k a year that they get for each one of the little bastards that attend the daycare centers they run.

It's all about the dollars, they don't give a shit about the kids.

[/div]

There are some schools that are 90% hispanic. I'm not sure what percentage are illegal or children of illegals.

Also AL law says your legal kids can stay or go with you but you can't stay if you are illegal.


To my knowledge Collinsville has the highest percentage in the state and it is around 80% now or was last I was told. Made the news a couple of years ago when it became the first majority minority hispanic school in the state. It's in my county. It is also a smaller school though (2A maybe?)


I saw an article a week or so back that said one school near chicken plant was basically that number.

Oh well. Interesting times ahead.


Very possibly the same school. There is a chicken plant in Collinsville then another about 15 or so miles over the road in Albertville. I have no clue how many chicken houses there are around here. Also several hatcheries.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:11:53 PM EST
Enact tough immigration laws, illegals disappear. I fail to see the problem.
Link Posted: 9/30/2011 9:19:41 PM EST
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?


We have. Just not enough of them.
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 12:54:57 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 1:36:28 AM EST
Originally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Enforce immigration laws, illegals disappear. I fail to see the problem.


FIFY.

I also agree about it being an issue of $ not education. How much would "the system" care if these kids were home schooled or private schooled?

Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:02:56 AM EST
Originally Posted By CrawdadsRevenge:
Enact tough immigration laws, illegals disappear. I fail to see the problem.




.......all I can say to the illegals is.......GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:09:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By Bama-Shooter:
Originally Posted By Billmanweh:
Originally Posted By DnPRK:
Self deportation FTW!


they're probably just moving from Alabama to Texas



FL


TN
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:18:19 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2011 2:18:45 AM EST by TrijiCog]
Originally Posted By Billmanweh:

"In the case of this law, our students do not have anything to fear," Casey Wardynski said in halting Spanish. He urged families to send students to class and explained that the state is only trying to compile statistics.




It's simple economics why the super is worried.

Less student bodies means less fed dollars.

The end.

Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:26:17 AM EST
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?



Not from schools or their school systems. Schools are considered "safe zones" for just about any GD thing one can think of. No guns, all the no-tolerance rules you can think of, all in the name of "safety". But it's also a haven for abused & runaway kids, at least according to the posters I've seen.

I have mixed feelings about the so-called "safe haven" thing. On one hand, it's nice to know a kid can have at least one place they can speak to an adult about an issue & the kid knows it will be kept confidential. On the other hand, how do you teach kids to obey the law(s) of the land & all that when you openly turn a blind eye to someone whom is ILLEGAL?
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:27:53 AM EST
Imagine if we got rid of all of them and actually had an effective border policy...like shoot to kill? wow.
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:36:32 AM EST
Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:
Imagine if we got rid of all of them and actually had an effective border policy...like shoot to kill? wow.





This idea of yours, I like it.
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:38:50 AM EST
Originally Posted By MACD:
Have they given them taxpayer funded vouchers so they can attend private school yet?


Originally Posted By Windustsearch:
Originally Posted By JustaGunNut:
I thought we have been deporting illegal immigrants?
We have, just not enough and mostly the criminals.
They're ALL criminals


Someone gets it.
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:39:47 AM EST
There is a law in VA that states if you drive a car on the highway you have to insure it as well. Laws don't stop them, but deportation does.
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:45:25 AM EST
I have the stomach for it
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 2:56:19 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2011 3:10:35 AM EST
Originally Posted By WhirlyGirl45:
Imagine if we got rid of all of them and actually had an effective border policy...like shoot to kill? wow.


WOW!

You mean like how the Mexican police handle their immigration problem?

Link Posted: 10/1/2011 3:35:32 AM EST
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