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Posted: 8/14/2005 4:45:33 AM EDT

I'm beyond words. Looks like the Move-On kool-aid has taken full effect.
She's gone from 'I wanna meet him' to 'I have a couple of other problems too...'
Personally I hope the fallen soldier's flag was given to his father or grandparents. His mother would probably burn it.

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX AUG 14, 2005 08:02:39 ET XXXXX

BUSH PROTESTING MOM CALLS FOR 'ISRAEL OUT OF PALESTINE'; VOWS NOT TO PAY TAXES

Anti-war protestor Cindy Sheehan, whose soldier son Casey was killed in Iraq, is calling for Bush's "impeachment," and for Israel to get out of Palestine!

"You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," Sheehan declares.

Sheehan says defiantly: "My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny...you give my son back and I'll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we'll put this war on trial."

"And now I'm going to use another 'I' word - impeachment - because we cannot have these people pardoned. They need to be tried on war crimes and go to jail."

The 48-year-old California mom remains tented up in a ditch along the one-lane road that leads to President Bush's Texas ranch.

As her protest entered its second week, hundreds of people with conflicting opinions about the war in Iraq descended on the area.

Developing...

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:47:51 AM EDT

[#1]

What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:48:48 AM EDT

[#2]

Maybe a 'road trip' to Crawford is in order for the Texas Crew?

Nothing like a couple of dozen honking cars and a few dozen 'International Peace Signs' to stabalize this poor lady's psyche!

Eric The(...AndI'llGetYourLittleDog,Too!)Hun

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:50:11 AM EDT

[#3]

No, let her keep talking. It's good for our side.

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:54:10 AM EDT

[#4]

There's is a Pro-Bush group near her on a counter-protest mission.

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:57:05 AM EDT

[#5]

Where is her husband at durring all this?

She needs a visit from the back of his hand.

Posted: 8/14/2005 4:59:38 AM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
Where is her husband at durring all this?

She needs a visit from the back of his hand.

Seeing her behavior now, that poor fucker prolly ran off years ago.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:01:47 AM EDT

[#7]

She's dis-honoring her son. Using his memory as a pawn in her stupid little gambit.

15 years ago we wouldn't have known any better. At least the facts on this women are out there. Mainstream media still won't report it.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:02:09 AM EDT

[#8]

Why go down there? She needs to be left sitting out there completely alone wondering why no one cares.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:03:47 AM EDT

[#9]

no keep it up. I hope she keeps it up. Makes those socialist idiots look like complete fools.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:14:54 AM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Why go down there? She needs to be left sitting out there completely alone wondering why no one cares.

She isn't alone. There is a cadre' of hippys & professional malcontents with her.

The good news is there is a similar sized (and growing) counter-protest there as well.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:18:01 AM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Where is her husband at durring all this?

She needs a visit from the back of his hand.

Seeing her behavior now, that poor fucker prolly ran off years ago.

Actually the news said that her and her husband have parted ways.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:19:25 AM EDT

[#12]

Sounds like a DUer who somehow didn't get a complete stranglehold on her kid's brain and he joined the Army. Whatever she is, she'll be yesterday's news the second people stop paying her attention. Bush should also have had her removed when she first arrived. She'll continue to make the news as long as she's there with a "day count" likely to come soon.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:20:18 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Where is her husband at durring all this?

She needs a visit from the back of his hand.

Seeing her behavior now, that poor fucker prolly ran off years ago.

Actually the news said that her and her husband have parted ways.

Well, belle of the ball she isnt. Damn, with a face like that, she would make an onion cry.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:37:37 AM EDT

[#14]

Check this link:

courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=FFL087021

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:51:27 AM EDT

[#15]

cant wait for the tax evasion arrest, hope they use a taser

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:52:48 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
She's dis-honoring her son. Using his memory as a pawn in her little gambit.

I agree, he died serving his country and protecting his fellow soldiers.

G

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:54:35 AM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
Check this link:

courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=FFL087021

Looks like he had enough of her disgraceful shit.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:54:58 AM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

Posted: 8/14/2005 5:58:42 AM EDT

[#19]

Best $289.50 he will ever spend.

Aviator

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:00:53 AM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:
Best $289.50 he will ever spend.

Aviator

+1

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:05:01 AM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Check this link:

courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=FFL087021

Anybody want to hazard a guess as to how much fucking media coverage THIS little factoid will get?

That woman is a toon...!

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:10:04 AM EDT

[#22]

did i hear or read somewhere that her son opposed the war as well but ended up joining the reserves to get money for school?

i wonder if she's gonna give back the insurance pay out...shouldn't she consider this tainted "blood money"?

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:10:04 AM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

+1 and right or wrong how many of us can say we know what its like to loose a son in war? I don't agree with her but I can understand her grief.

Patty

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:12:00 AM EDT

[#24]

Although I have a heart-felt respect for anyone who loses a child in the service of our country, Ms. Sheehan has lost all credibility as a grieving mother. She met with the President months after her sons death and spoke very highly of him. Now she has banded together with groups that are using her because they can't get anyone to listen to her on their own. They care not about her or her son. It is already evident that the people who she thinks are giving her support are actually driving her over the edge.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:13:10 AM EDT

[#25]

Post from a leftist about how to best use Sheehan for their emotion-based propaganda:

We are making errors with references to Cindy Sheehan.

What are we trying to accomplish with promoting her?

Emphasizing her sacrifice.

Emphasizing her stating truth to power.

Emphasizing her plain speaking, clear statements.

Relate her vigil over her dead son to universal archtypes of all vigils over dead children killed by dictatorial rulers throughout all history.

My suggestions below:

1. We should call her “Mother Sheehan”. We should never call her Cindy; I don’t know her. “Mother Sheehan” is her title, and expresses her ceremonial status as a bereaved mother, calling forth over the dead body of her son. She is not a person now, she is a mother, which is not an expression of her individuality, but rather the expression of her eternal character: the mother, the bringer of life who has been wronged by state power.

2. We should use the word “sacrifice”. She has sacrificed the most precious thing a mother has, the life and promise of her child.

3. We should use the word “useless” frequently. The death of her son is a useless sacrifise, done for the vanity of the ruler.

4. We should not use the name of her son. Her son is a symbol of all sons who have been sacrificed for this useless and criminal war.

5. The term “vigil” should be used to describe the persons and their patient petition to the dictatorial ruler. It is a vigil over the body of the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own purposes.

6. The right will try to INDIVIDUALIZE and SPECIALIZE her complaint. We must try to make her cry the UNIVERSAL and ETERNAL cry of all mothers whose children have died at the whim of the tyrannical and dictatorial ruler, who has made the decision to push children to the front of the army for his own, useless purposes. We must seek to make this like funeral vigils over all time. This is not Mother Sheehan’s vigil, this is a vigil over the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own selfish reasons.

7. If there are any persons who are theatre professionals at the Sheenan vigil, they should arrange things much more theatrically.

8. If I was there, I would not let Mother Sheehan talk to the press, but I would have her talk only through a spokesperson. In particular, I would not allow her to argue with critics, and would allow no critics to approach her. Her dignity must be preserved. If lesser emissaries from the ruler arrive (C Rice, etc), these should not be allowed to speak to Mother Sheehan.

dailykos.com/story/2005/8/13/9565/81042

Nauseating

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:14:27 AM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

you know, i agreed with this at the start but she has escalated this far beyond the grieving mother stage. she is using her status to attack bush and to further her own leftist anti-american agenda as shown by the klingons who have gathered around this festering asshole.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:16:51 AM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Post from a leftist about how to best use Sheehan for their emotion-based propaganda:

We are making errors with references to Cindy Sheehan.

What are we trying to accomplish with promoting her?

Emphasizing her sacrifice.

Emphasizing her stating truth to power.

Emphasizing her plain speaking, clear statements.

Relate her vigil over her dead son to universal archtypes of all vigils over dead children killed by dictatorial rulers throughout all history.

My suggestions below:

1. We should call her “Mother Sheehan”. We should never call her Cindy; I don’t know her. “Mother Sheehan” is her title, and expresses her ceremonial status as a bereaved mother, calling forth over the dead body of her son. She is not a person now, she is a mother, which is not an expression of her individuality, but rather the expression of her eternal character: the mother, the bringer of life who has been wronged by state power.

2. We should use the word “sacrifice”. She has sacrificed the most precious thing a mother has, the life and promise of her child.

3. We should use the word “useless” frequently. The death of her son is a useless sacrifise, done for the vanity of the ruler.

4. We should not use the name of her son. Her son is a symbol of all sons who have been sacrificed for this useless and criminal war.

5. The term “vigil” should be used to describe the persons and their patient petition to the dictatorial ruler. It is a vigil over the body of the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own purposes.

6. The right will try to INDIVIDUALIZE and SPECIALIZE her complaint. We must try to make her cry the UNIVERSAL and ETERNAL cry of all mothers whose children have died at the whim of the tyrannical and dictatorial ruler, who has made the decision to push children to the front of the army for his own, useless purposes. We must seek to make this like funeral vigils over all time. This is not Mother Sheehan’s vigil, this is a vigil over the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own selfish reasons.

7. If there are any persons who are theatre professionals at the Sheenan vigil, they should arrange things much more theatrically.

8. If I was there, I would not let Mother Sheehan talk to the press, but I would have her talk only through a spokesperson. In particular, I would not allow her to argue with critics, and would allow no critics to approach her. Her dignity must be preserved. If lesser emissaries from the ruler arrive (C Rice, etc), these should not be allowed to speak to Mother Sheehan.

dailykos.com/story/2005/8/13/9565/81042

Nauseating

The left's focus on and expertise at propaganda would make Joseph Goebbels blush.

And they do the very same thing as the revise movie scripts, as they write news stories, etc.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:20:54 AM EDT

[#28]

What is wrong with these people? Since when did people NOT run the risk of bodily harm or death when enlisting in the armed forces? Does everyone just expect this to be a "pay-day" anymore with no chance of actually seeing combat? Wisky-Tango-Foxtrot!! These parents who are getting pissed because their sons or daughters or actually dying as part of COMBAT UNITS need to be slapped around until they come back to reality. This has nothing to do with whether you even agree with the war or not, but more about a fundamental lack of understanding of what the armed forces mean in the first place.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:22:40 AM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

+1 and right or wrong how many of us can say we know what its like to loose a son in war? I don't agree with her but I can understand her grief.

Patty

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person. She's dishonoring her son and his memory and I have zero respect for her.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:23:32 AM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
Post from a leftist about how to best use Sheehan for their emotion-based propaganda:

We are making errors with references to Cindy Sheehan.

What are we trying to accomplish with promoting her?

Emphasizing her sacrifice.

Emphasizing her stating truth to power.

Emphasizing her plain speaking, clear statements.

Relate her vigil over her dead son to universal archtypes of all vigils over dead children killed by dictatorial rulers throughout all history.

My suggestions below:

1. We should call her “Mother Sheehan”. We should never call her Cindy; I don’t know her. “Mother Sheehan” is her title, and expresses her ceremonial status as a bereaved mother, calling forth over the dead body of her son. She is not a person now, she is a mother, which is not an expression of her individuality, but rather the expression of her eternal character: the mother, the bringer of life who has been wronged by state power.

2. We should use the word “sacrifice”. She has sacrificed the most precious thing a mother has, the life and promise of her child.

3. We should use the word “useless” frequently. The death of her son is a useless sacrifise, done for the vanity of the ruler.

4. We should not use the name of her son. Her son is a symbol of all sons who have been sacrificed for this useless and criminal war.

5. The term “vigil” should be used to describe the persons and their patient petition to the dictatorial ruler. It is a vigil over the body of the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own purposes.

6. The right will try to INDIVIDUALIZE and SPECIALIZE her complaint. We must try to make her cry the UNIVERSAL and ETERNAL cry of all mothers whose children have died at the whim of the tyrannical and dictatorial ruler, who has made the decision to push children to the front of the army for his own, useless purposes. We must seek to make this like funeral vigils over all time. This is not Mother Sheehan’s vigil, this is a vigil over the dead son, killed by the ruler for his own selfish reasons.

7. If there are any persons who are theatre professionals at the Sheenan vigil, they should arrange things much more theatrically.

8. If I was there, I would not let Mother Sheehan talk to the press, but I would have her talk only through a spokesperson. In particular, I would not allow her to argue with critics, and would allow no critics to approach her. Her dignity must be preserved. If lesser emissaries from the ruler arrive (C Rice, etc), these should not be allowed to speak to Mother Sheehan.

dailykos.com/story/2005/8/13/9565/81042

Nauseating

wow that's some pretty cold-blooded shit there. shows just how little regard they have for this poor woman.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:25:53 AM EDT

[#31]

Well, At least with her spilling this BS about Israel and Palistine, The rest of her agenda becomes plain, for everyone to see. My money says she opens her big mouth about two or three other, far left wacko causes and totaly discredits herself, before the week is out.

If she'd of been smart, she'd of stuck with just the simple, "Bush killed my son." line of shit.

Because, at least, that tugged the public heart strings, enough to get her some media attention.... If she goes multi issue and starts accusing Bush, of starving second graders, with his school lunch program, then she becomes just anouther whack job protester, with issues to complex for the limited attention span of the 30 second sound bite. Rapidly fading into last weeks news.

Of course, I'm sure some enterprizing member of the media, is arranging right now, for some noted Democratic big shot , like Teresa Hienz Kerry, to go down to Crawford, so she can be photo-opt with the "Dead Soldiers Mom", in order to keep this story on life support.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:28:26 AM EDT

[#32]

Quoted:
Check this link:

courtconnect.solanocourts.com/pls/bprod_cc/ck_public_qry_doct.cp_dktrpt_frames?case_id=FFL087021

I'd love to be the Deputy that gets to serve the divorce summons. Right on national TV.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:29:05 AM EDT

[#33]

x

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:31:59 AM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

you know, i agreed with this at the start but she has escalated this far beyond the grieving mother stage. she is using her status to attack bush and to further her own leftist anti-american agenda as shown by the klingons who have gathered around this festering asshole.

Yes, but it goes without saying that Casey Sheehan would not want his mother to be ridiculed on an internet forum, whether she deserves it or not.

I know I wouldn't, and that is why I have chosen not to comment.

Justin

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:32:50 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

+1 and right or wrong how many of us can say we know what its like to loose a son in war? I don't agree with her but I can understand her grief.

Patty

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person. She's dishonoring her son and his memory and I have zero respect for her.

See above.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:34:50 AM EDT

[#36]

They need to take a fire hose and sweep away her and all of those left anti american shit heads in front of the presidents ranch.A part of me felt sorry for her at one time , not anymore

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:35:28 AM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

you know, i agreed with this at the start but she has escalated this far beyond the grieving mother stage. she is using her status to attack bush and to further her own leftist anti-american agenda as shown by the klingons who have gathered around this festering asshole.

Yes, but it goes without saying that Casey Sheehan would not want his mother to be ridiculed on an internet forum, whether she deserves it or not.

I know I wouldn't, and that is why I have chosen not to comment.

Justin

Casey Sheehan took his oath to defend the Constitution of the United States from enemies foreign and domestic.

I'll use my free speech, thank you very much.

His mother is shitting on her son's memory, she's attempting to speak from a protected pulpit -- to say whatever she wants and claim immunity from criticism because she lost her son.

You are a fool if you give her that protection. Her son would want the marketplace of ideas, the first amendment process, to work. He would want someone to give voice to both points of view.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:40:07 AM EDT

[#38]

yeah slick, you gotta point. but i DO think info like the anti-israeli statements, the dunger manipulation strategy, and even the divorce papers should be reported and passed on to as many folks as possible...just without the personal attacks...gotta know your enemy!

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:41:14 AM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

As much as I would like to participate, I will resreve my comments in respect for Casey Sheehan.

Rest In Peace Warrior.

+1 and right or wrong how many of us can say we know what its like to loose a son in war? I don't agree with her but I can understand her grief.

Patty

Being a victim doesn't make her a good person. She's dishonoring her son and his memory and I have zero respect for her.

See above.

That's your viewpoint. I have another.

Posted: 8/14/2005 6:42:32 AM EDT

[#40]

Read what the scumbags are saying at DU
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=104

Do not make the link hot!

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:04:35 AM EDT

[#41]

She is from California and she is life long democrat, enough said!!

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:09:55 AM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
Well, At least with her spilling this BS about Israel and Palistine, The rest of her agenda becomes plain, for everyone to see. My money says she opens her big mouth about two or three other, far left wacko causes and totaly discredits herself, before the week is out.

If she'd of been smart, she'd of stuck with just the simple, "Bush killed my son." line of shit.

Because, at least, that tugged the public heart strings, enough to get her some media attention.... If she goes multi issue and starts accusing Bush, of starving second graders, with his school lunch program, then she becomes just anouther whack job protester, with issues to complex for the limited attention span of the 30 second sound bite. Rapidly fading into last weeks news.

Of course, I'm sure some enterprizing member of the media, is arranging right now, for some noted Democratic big shot , like Teresa Hienz Kerry, to go down to Crawford, so she can be photo-opt with the "Dead Soldiers Mom", in order to keep this story on life support.

Bingo...I think that she has just blown any support from ayone but the DU types at this point. With the reference to Isreal, no *sane* democrat will go near her now...remember the problems Rangel had with mentioning Iraq and the Holocaust in the same sentence? YYou'd have to be an idiot to get mixed up with her now. But, as Mark Twain said, I repeat myself lol.

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:12:37 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Yes, but it goes without saying that Casey Sheehan would not want his mother to be ridiculed on an internet forum, whether she deserves it or not.

I know I wouldn't, and that is why I have chosen not to comment.

Justin

If it was my mom out there I'd be begging God to let me come back to earth so I could bitch slap her myself.

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:12:59 AM EDT

[#44]

homepage.mac.com/godofkarma/swimmerfilms/iMovieTheater75.html

^ footage by liberals.

it's hillarious. they were protesting on some county property, and some local citizen bought the land and kicked them off, roflol!.

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:17:58 AM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:
homepage.mac.com/godofkarma/swimmerfilms/iMovieTheater75.html

^ footage by liberals.

it's hillarious. they were protesting on some county property, and some local citizen bought the land and kicked them off, roflol!.

No wonder the Kos people don't want to let her talk.

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:21:02 AM EDT

[#46]

ETA:

Watching that hippie shit, I can't help but think of that episode of South Park where Cartman is hunting hippies.

Posted: 8/14/2005 7:30:55 AM EDT

[#47]

Ms Sheehan is proving the truth of the old adage that "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".

Her anti-Israeli comments will serve to alienate her from the influential Jewish Liberal wing of the Democrat Party, and from many other Americans as well.

Facts about her past, now surfacing, do not serve her well, either, at least to the extent that they are reported and heard.

Another eventual disappointment for the DU types who have pinned their hopes on her.

Posted: 8/14/2005 8:03:15 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
Ms Sheehan is proving the truth of the old adage that "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".

Her anti-Israeli comments will serve to alienate her from the influential Jewish Liberal wing of the Democrat Party, and from many other Americans as well.

Facts about her past, now surfacing, do not serve her well, either, at least to the extent that they are reported and heard.

Another eventual disappointment for the DU types who have pinned their hopes on her.

The jewish liberal democrats already hate isreael, she'd be welcomed like an old brother.

Posted: 8/14/2005 8:17:36 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Ms Sheehan is proving the truth of the old adage that "It is better to keep one's mouth shut and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt".

Her anti-Israeli comments will serve to alienate her from the influential Jewish Liberal wing of the Democrat Party, and from many other Americans as well.

Facts about her past, now surfacing, do not serve her well, either, at least to the extent that they are reported and heard.

Another eventual disappointment for the DU types who have pinned their hopes on her.

The jewish liberal democrats already hate isreael, she'd be welcomed like an old brother.

Better let Chuckie Shumer know that. Doubt he's got the memo.

Posted: 8/14/2005 8:20:01 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
What a fucking loon. She needs to be comitted.

WRONG! She needs to be tried for treason!

Then shoot.

Sgatr15

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