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Posted: 8/7/2005 7:01:13 PM EDT
You shall have no other Gods besides Me... Would a son of God go against this? Explain your feelings in regards.

And if you can't be civil please do not reply.
It is simply to be talked about, so lets act like adults, mobius that goes for you more than any one. Don't come into the thread with some lame "fantasy" argument.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:23:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
You shall have no other Gods besides Me... Would a son of God go against this? Explain your feelings in regards.

And if you can't be civil please do not reply.
It is simply to be talked about, so lets act like adults, mobius that goes for you more than any one. Don't come into the thread with some lame "fantasy" argument.



Jesus is the second member of the Trinity. He is God.
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 7:51:07 PM EDT
The Son of God is GOd. Just as the Holy Spirit is also GOd.

The three make up the Holy Trinity.

All the same entinety, just expressed differantly.


SGat1r5
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:06:49 PM EDT
Okay... Jesus is True God and True Man, right?

While the argument could be made that Jesus is a demigod it doesn't quite hold water when one looks at it this way:

Quick.. some one draw a Jesus fish.. y'know the kind you find on the tail ends of cars all over... Got it? Good.

Now, take your pen and put it on the tip of the nose of the fish and draw a circle around to the top of the tail.

Done? Excellent.

Now do the same but draw a lower circle from the tip of the nose to the bottom of the tail.

What do you see? Two intersecting circles. One is Divinity and one is Humanity. Jesus is the overlapping space; the bridge between Divinity and Humanity.

They don't teach you that meaning of it in Bible study.... Now you have a visual representation of Jesus' purpose and you know what the symbol really means.

So, knowing this, does it make more sense that Christianity doesn't inherently defy the second commandment?
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:18:33 PM EDT
Ummmmmmmm...........what?

Sgat1r5
Link Posted: 8/7/2005 8:23:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/7/2005 8:24:51 PM EDT by FMD]
Triune is probably a better descriptive term than trinity.

Three-in-one.

While this is a horrible example; I can be a father, a son, and a brother all at the same time, without being 3 different people.

Suffice it to say, there are plenty of Bible verses that describe the multiple natures of a single God, and it's a fairly standard Christian doctrine.

If you are looking for something deeper, I would suggest visiting the forums at www.carm.org.

ETA: Didn't realize Mr-H's link went to CARM. Great minds think alike.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 4:05:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
You shall have no other Gods besides Me... Would a son of God go against this? Explain your feelings in regards.

And if you can't be civil please do not reply.
It is simply to be talked about, so lets act like adults, mobius that goes for you more than any one. Don't come into the thread with some lame "fantasy" argument.



No, it wouldn't.

God The Father was glorified as God even by Christ Himself, and God appointed Christ above all things Himself. There is no rivalry in The Trinity. Father, Son and Spirit are One, completely united and without ego.
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 9:24:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:
You shall have no other Gods besides Me... Would a son of God go against this? Explain your feelings in regards.

And if you can't be civil please do not reply.
It is simply to be talked about, so lets act like adults, mobius that goes for you more than any one. Don't come into the thread with some lame "fantasy" argument.




Trinity. 3 in 1, 3 are 1, use whatever term you want.

Same thing, One God, 3 manifestations.

that was easy huh......
Link Posted: 8/8/2005 8:24:06 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FMD:
www.carm.org.

ETA: Didn't realize Mr-H's link went to CARM. Great minds think alike.



Thnx guys for the link, I have been surfing the site the last two days.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 4:43:01 AM EDT

Originally Posted By olyarms:

Thnx guys for the link, I have been surfing the site the last two days.



Prepare to spend a LOT of time over there...
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 5:16:39 AM EDT
What is the official definition of apologetics?

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Link Posted: 8/9/2005 5:22:44 AM EDT

Originally Posted By John_Wayne777:
There is no rivalry in The Trinity. Father, Son and Spirit are One, completely united and without ego.


See... You have a flash of insight and I wasn't around to see it.

You've touched on something extremely important which spans across several different systems of thought.
Link Posted: 8/9/2005 5:30:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/9/2005 5:30:54 AM EDT by FMD]

Originally Posted By jcncc:
What is the official definition of apologetics?



The dictionary is your friend.

apol·o·get·ics
1 : systematic argumentative discourse in defense (as of a doctrine)
2 : a branch of theology devoted to the defense of the divine origin and authority of Christianity
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:17:36 AM EDT

Would a son of God go against this?


I personally go with the belief that Jesus was involved with the Esscene, the term Son of Man, is used to describe themselves, not to raise any person to the level of G*d.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 6:02:07 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheWind:

Would a son of God go against this?


I personally go with the belief that Jesus was involved with the Esscene, the term Son of Man, is used to describe themselves, not to raise any person to the level of G*d.



Jesus did claim to be very God, among other times when he said "I am."

Every Hebrew would recognize that from their own history as a name solely belonging to God.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 11:39:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By TheWind:

Would a son of God go against this?


I personally go with the belief that Jesus was involved with the Esscene, the term Son of Man, is used to describe themselves, not to raise any person to the level of G*d.



Eep!

I'm reading a book right now about this very thing. Well.. Not the Esscenes.. But the Naassene Sermon, which, ironically enough, is only preserved through Hippolytus' Refutation of All Heresies. There's an entire chapter about the use of the term Son of Man. It's pretty cool.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:01:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:05:11 PM EDT by Twister]

Originally Posted By olyarms:
You shall have no other Gods besides Me... Would a son of God go against this? Explain your feelings in regards.


That's exactly right. One G-d, the Eternal One, one Torah for all creation. No son of G-d would violate anything in the Torah to make the Divine appear to be incorrect or forgetful. Hence the dilemma, not for us but, for the Christian who can not, or maybe will not choose to, understand this concept.


And if you can't be civil please do not reply.
It is simply to be talked about, so lets act like adults, mobius that goes for you more than any one. Don't come into the thread with some lame "fantasy" argument.

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:04:13 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By TheWind:

Would a son of God go against this?


I personally go with the belief that Jesus was involved with the Esscene, the term Son of Man, is used to describe themselves, not to raise any person to the level of G*d.



Jesus did claim to be very God, among other times when he said "I am."

Every Hebrew would recognize that from their own history as a name solely belonging to God.




Incorrect, every Hebrew would not since this is a purely Christian idea.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:14:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:15:18 PM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By Twister:

Originally Posted By garandman:


Jesus did claim to be very God, among other times when he said "I am."

Every Hebrew would recognize that from their own history as a name solely belonging to God.




Incorrect, every Hebrew would not since this is a purely Christian idea.



Your Torah-fu is weak...


Exo. 3: 13 Moses said to God, "Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me, 'What is his name?' Then what shall I tell them?"

14 God said to Moses, "I am who I am . [a] This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' "

15 God also said to Moses, "Say to the Israelites, 'The LORD, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.' This is my name forever, the name by which I am to be remembered from generation to generation.



Christ's reference to himself as "I am" was a DIRECT QUOTE of Exodus.

EVERY Israelite would have recognized my Lord's reference - that Christ equated Himself with Yahweh.

Its why the Pharisees went about to kill Christ. They thought Him a blashpemer, which in the law of Moses was a capital offense.


Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:18:31 PM EDT
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...


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Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:20:12 PM EDT
I can't find anything where he said he was G*d...I would seemo think that if he had said I am G*d, the Sanhedrien would have found him guilty and had him stoned..they instead took him to the ROmans.


GM I can agree with you, he is from G*d ,there was a divinty about him. As there were men people in Isarel. I will not negrate him, just I do not believe him the Messiah.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:23:36 PM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...


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Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.



Please refrain from telling me what to refrain from.

Jesus may not be God, but I am QUITE sure you aren't.



Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:24:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:24:27 PM EDT by scuba_ed]
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Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...

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Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.
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Please refrain from telling me what to refrain from.

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Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:25:58 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...

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Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.
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Please refrain from telling me what to refrain from.

Jesus may not be God, but I am QUITE sure you aren't.


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Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:30:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 12:30:26 PM EDT by garandman]

Originally Posted By TheWind:
I can't find anything where he said he was G*d...



John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

John 14: 9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father


John 10:30 - I and my Father are one
(giving sense to the Scripture "Hear O Israel, the lord our God is one." )




I would seemo think that if he had said I am G*d, the Sanhedrien would have found him guilty and had him stoned..they instead took him to the ROmans.


Scripture addresses this too. They said "His blood be on us, and on our children." But Israel was under Roman rule, and used the mechanisms available.



GM I can agree with you, he is from G*d ,there was a divinty about him. As there were men people in Isarel. I will not negrate him, just I do not believe him the Messiah.


I know you don't beleive He is the Messiah, but I have confidence you seek truth.

As do I.

I respect that.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:36:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...


___________________________________________________




Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.




Todah rabbah Ed.
G-man's problem is that he doesn't have a Torah so he cannot debate intelligently.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By TheWind:
I can't find anything where he said he was G*d...



John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

John 14: 9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father


John 10:30 - I and my Father are one
(giving sense to the Scripture "Hear O Israel, the lord our God is one." )




I would seemo think that if he had said I am G*d, the Sanhedrien would have found him guilty and had him stoned..they instead took him to the ROmans.


Scripture addresses this too. They said "His blood be on us, and on our children." But Israel was under Roman rule, and used the mechanisms available.



GM I can agree with you, he is from G*d ,there was a divinty about him. As there were men people in Isarel. I will not negrate him, just I do not believe him the Messiah.


I know you don't beleive He is the Messiah, but I have confidence you seek truth.

As do I.

I respect that.




If you truly were seeking the truth than you would be doing more listening instead of waiting to tell the Jew that he is wrong because it does not relate to your Christian concepts.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 12:55:26 PM EDT
If you truly were seeking the truth than you would be doing more listening instead of waiting to tell the Jew that he is wrong because it does not relate to your Christian concepts.

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They've been waiting for only 2,000 yrs. We've been waiting longer than that for a REALLY good Chinese delicatessen delivery on Shabbos!!

Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:36:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
If you truly were seeking the truth than you would be doing more listening instead of waiting to tell the Jew that he is wrong because it does not relate to your Christian concepts.

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They've been waiting for only 2,000 yrs. We've been waiting longer than that for a REALLY good Chinese delicatessen delivery on Shabbos!!




+1
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:48:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...


___________________________________________________




Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.



Please refrain from telling me what to refrain from.

Jesus may not be God, but I am QUITE sure you aren't.






Aha!

Dances with Snakes admitting Jesus MAY NOT be G-D!

The End is near indeed!
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 1:59:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 0ldGuy:

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Originally posted by garandman:

Your Torah-fu is weak...


___________________________________________________




Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.



Please refrain from telling me what to refrain from.

Jesus may not be God, but I am QUITE sure you aren't.






Aha!

Dances with Snakes admitting Jesus MAY NOT be G-D!

The End is near indeed!


Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:02:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/10/2005 2:05:05 PM EDT by Rodent]
I always had the impression that the second commandment implies the existance of other gods. This one just doesn't want us to have others before him.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:04:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Rodent:
I always had the impression that the second commandment implies the existance of other gods. This one just doesn't want us to before him.


I've made that arugument myself.
Link Posted: 8/10/2005 2:14:10 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Rodent:
I always had the impression that the second commandment implies the existance of other gods. This one just doesn't want us to before him.
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I've made that arugument myself.


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A solid point from the Jewish perspective. The Hebrews of the Torah never objected to the idea that other gods (note the un-hyphenation!) didn't exist within the reality of other peoples they knew.

It was only the G-d who was revealed to the Hebrews, and whom was accepted by them have Jews maintained that un-ending Covenant for all time.

Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:27:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By hydgirl:

Originally Posted By Rodent:
I always had the impression that the second commandment implies the existance of other gods. This one just doesn't want us to before him.


I've made that arugument myself.



Me too.

Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:33:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Twister:
If you truly were seeking the truth than you would be doing more listening instead of waiting to tell the Jew that he is wrong because it does not relate to your Christian concepts.



Some truth I'm still seeking. For that truth, you are correct. Doubtful I'll find it if I'm too busy yapping about my opinions in those matters.

Other truth I have found. THAT truth I am both commanded and desirous to speak about. In the same manner I would be morally and personally obligated to tell a swimmer of the shark 100 feet away from him.

I realize telling anyone they are "wrong" is offensive. My hope is in the areas I am wrong, others will tell me.

I get a bit excited about these topics, and maybe a bit over zealous. While i have no desire to be intentionally offensive, I do look at a persons participation in these threads as a solicitation of my perspective.

Methinks that's why they call them "discussion" forums.



Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:34:15 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 0ldGuy:
Aha!

Dances with Snakes admitting Jesus MAY NOT be G-D!

The End is near indeed!





Anything is possible.

That's why they call my belief that Jesus IS God "faith."



Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:37:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

It was only the G-d who was revealed to the Hebrews, and whom was accepted by them have Jews maintained that un-ending Covenant for all time.





Actualyl, Yahweh Himself has said the historical Jews broke that covenant, re-established that covenant, broke that covenant, re-established that covenant, broke that covenant...... (you get the idea) ....

...and finally God amended that covenant in teh rending of the temple veil, and the resurrection of jesus Christ.

(Obviously, I know you don't beelive that, just a Biblical perspective on your comment)

Link Posted: 8/11/2005 3:38:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Twister:
G-man's problem is that he doesn't have a Torah so he cannot debate intelligently.



Of course I have a (copy of the) Torah.

I've quoted from it.

NO ONE here has a real one. We're all working off copies.
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 4:05:13 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.



I should mention...

...I tell Chrsitians their Bible-fu is weak also.



garand(observerofhumanity)man<­BR>
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 12:49:18 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

Please refrain from telling a Jew his Torah-fu is weak.
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I should mention...

...I tell Chrsitians their Bible-fu is weak also.



garand(observerofhumanity)man­


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Well, then, mr. smarty pants, as an observer of humanity, then I would hope you would learn from your observations, and not resort to inflamatory rhetoric. Otherwise, your intense observation and study of humanity is simply an excercise in jerking yourself off. Oh, there, my golly--must not be a Mrs., huh?
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 1:52:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Twister:
G-man's problem is that he doesn't have a Torah so he cannot debate intelligently.



Of course I have a (copy of the) Torah.

I've quoted from it.

NO ONE here has a real one. We're all working off copies.



Wrong again. You have poor copies, I quote from the original Hebrew. The text hasn't changed
since it was first given by G-d. Furthermore, all the written copies of Torah we have today originate from the scroll Ezra wrote after the Babylonian Exile, and were painstakingly copied throughout the centuries by trained scribes, who are not allowed to make any mistakes in copying (otherwise the whole Torah scroll is invalid and must be destroyed).

Plus I am reading from the Hebrew not English. What you quote from I'm not sure.
Link Posted: 8/11/2005 6:53:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:

Well, then, mr. smarty pants, as an observer of humanity, then I would hope you would learn from your observations, and not resort to inflamatory rhetoric. Otherwise, your intense observation and study of humanity is simply an excercise in jerking yourself off. Oh, there, my golly--must not be a Mrs., huh?



Is this the type of behavior and crude language the Torah allows?

Link Posted: 8/11/2005 6:55:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Twister:

Wrong again. You have poor copies, I quote from the original Hebrew. The text hasn't changed
since it was first given by G-d. Furthermore, all the written copies of Torah we have today originate from the scroll Ezra wrote after the Babylonian Exile, and were painstakingly copied throughout the centuries by trained scribes, who are not allowed to make any mistakes in copying (otherwise the whole Torah scroll is invalid and must be destroyed).

Plus I am reading from the Hebrew not English. What you quote from I'm not sure.



I also have access to the original languages.

My Torah-fu is strong.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 6:58:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 7:37:19 AM EDT by Greenfeet]
Oh sure there are other "gods". If you place your money on a pedastal, and are consumed by desire for it, then money becomes your god. Any inanimate object, person, place, whatever, can be a god to you. The point is that you are to place importance on nothing above what you place on the one true God.

As for the Covenant, God kept the Covenant because Israel never could. The point is that theHebrew people of the Old Testament were constantly in idolatry. Read Judges and you'll quickly get an idea of their state of affairs. In Genesis (chapter 15, I think), Jehovah makes a covenant with Abram. But He causes Abram to sleep so that this agreement is actually between God and Himself. Not Abram saying: "May I be split apart like these animals if I fail", because without a doubt, Abram would fail, but, in fact, God promising to keep Abram in this Covenant despite his failing.

ETA: Read the first 3 chapters of Hosea for a good analogy of this.

By the way, this isn't the second commandment, it's the first. The second is about graven images.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 9:37:08 AM EDT

Originally Posted By scuba_ed:
Well, then, mr. smarty pants, as an observer of humanity, then I would hope you would learn from your observations, and not resort to inflamatory rhetoric. Otherwise, your intense observation and study of humanity is simply an excercise in jerking yourself off. Oh, there, my golly--must not be a Mrs., huh?



And yet you've called most folks who disagree with you politely "trolls".

Ed, please refrain from personal attacks; for the sake of the forum, and for your own. Thanks.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:26:42 AM EDT

Originally Posted By garandman:

Originally Posted By Twister:

Wrong again. You have poor copies, I quote from the original Hebrew. The text hasn't changed
since it was first given by G-d. Furthermore, all the written copies of Torah we have today originate from the scroll Ezra wrote after the Babylonian Exile, and were painstakingly copied throughout the centuries by trained scribes, who are not allowed to make any mistakes in copying (otherwise the whole Torah scroll is invalid and must be destroyed).

Plus I am reading from the Hebrew not English. What you quote from I'm not sure.



I also have access to the original languages.

I never said you didn't have access to them. I said you never read them.

My Torah-fu is strong.

If it was you wouldn't be a Christian.


Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:27:19 AM EDT

Originally posted by garandman:
John 14:7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.

John 14: 9 - Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father



John 14:10 "the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

(I don't think Jesus was claiming to be God in verse 9)

Also,

Matthew 5:8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God" -- But they ain't seen him yet.
John 1:18 "no man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."

1 Tim 6:16 [God] alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no human has ever seen or is able to see. --- Note that this was said long after Jesus had ascended.

John 5:37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified about me. You people have never heard his voice nor seen his form at any time,


Further, from the description of Jesus in Isaiah, he sure didn't appear as God...
53:2 He sprouted up like a twig before God,like a root out of parched soil;he had no stately form or majesty that might catch our attention, no special appearance that we should want to follow him.



Originally posted by garandman:
John 10:30 - I and my Father are one (giving sense to the Scripture "Hear O Israel, the lord our God is one." )



John 17
21 That they all may be one; as Thou, Father, art in me, and I in Thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and Thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that Thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as Thou hast loved me.


Unless all of us are going to be God too, I don't think 10:30 is a claim to Godhood.
Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:32:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 10:46:53 AM EDT by scuba_ed]
And yet you've called most folks who disagree with you politely "trolls".

Ed, please refrain from personal attacks; for the sake of the forum, and for your own. Thanks.


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Hey there FMD...personal and religious attacks upon Jewish posters began with the brainstorm of an accusation upon Jews that "...our Torah-Fu was weak."

For the sake of this forum? Then help stop the abuse, and don't contribute further to it.

Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:42:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2005 10:44:52 AM EDT by scuba_ed]
And yet you've called most folks No, just the ones who accuse Jews of not understanding the Hebrew Bible who disagree with you politely "trolls".

Ed, please refrain from personal attacks; for the sake of the forum, and for your own. Thanks.


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Fixed it for you so as to be more precise...have no idea where I referenced more than 2 has having Trollish aspects; I have no idea as how that may be translated into "most", unless you were a reference of mine?

Proceed sensibly and courteously, yourself!


Link Posted: 8/12/2005 10:44:05 AM EDT
Todah rabbah TheWind! How is it with you?

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