User Panel
User Panel
User Panel
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:14:44 PM EDT
[#1]
If I'm going to war I want to have as many ways to kill a man as I can have.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:19:45 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If I'm going to war I want to have as many ways to kill a man as I can have. In modern times has one even been used outside of crowd control? |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:22:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In modern times has one even been used outside of crowd control? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
If I'm going to war I want to have as many ways to kill a man as I can have. In modern times has one even been used outside of crowd control? Yup, a few years ago in A'stan...IIRC |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:40:42 PM EDT
[#4]
I haven't been in a car accident since 1986. Why should I have to have car insurance?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:43:59 PM EDT
[#5]
If nothing else it looks cool...
Plus, why the hell not? Get both? And so on...  " />
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:44:03 PM EDT
[#6]
This gentleman finds this thread cute. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:47:05 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
In modern times has one even been used outside of crowd control? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
If I'm going to war I want to have as many ways to kill a man as I can have. In modern times has one even been used outside of crowd control? 
Yes, just ask this bloke. British forces in Afghanistan have used bayonets many times. In 2009, Lieutenant James Adamson, aged 24, of the Royal Regiment of Scotland was awarded the Military Cross for a bayonet charge whilst on a tour of duty in Afghanistan: after shooting one Taliban fighter dead Adamson had run out of ammunition when another enemy appeared. He immediately charged the second Taliban fighter and bayoneted him. In September 2012, Lance Corporal Sean Jones of The Princess of Wales's Regiment was awarded the Military Cross for his role in a bayonet charge which took place in October 2011. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 10:49:59 PM EDT
[#8]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/26/2013 11:29:08 PM EDT
[#9]
It's an implement of war.
As long as there are wars, pointy/stabby things will come in damn handy now and again, and the longer they are, the better. As long as the things aren't in the way normally, there is no penalty to having the option really. Besides, bayonette training is a great way to build character and aggression. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 12:49:22 AM EDT
[#10]
A good mate of mine in Cambodia, who has since passed on, received the Military Cross for actions of 16 May 1968 when he was a Lieutenant in the Royal Australian Regiment in South Vietnam. He ordered to fix bayonets, and he and his men repelled an NVA human wave attack while singing Waltzing Matilda. His name was JP Salter, and cancer finally got him a couple of years ago. One great guy, and I would never have known the story save for getting drunk with him and the Australian military attache in Phnom Penh one ANZAC Day. You never know who the heck you're talking to, sometimes.
I would say leave the lug on. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Coral%E2%80%93Balmoral |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 12:53:03 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If nothing else it looks cool... Plus, why the hell not? Get both? And so on... http://<a href=http://i.imgur.com/iT2alcZ.jpg</a>" /> That's not a knife... 
Now THAT'S a knife. 
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 12:55:05 AM EDT
[#12]
They're still viable for crowd control.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 1:15:52 AM EDT
[#13]
there are good reasons why we still do bayonet training
yes, leave it |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 1:41:25 AM EDT
[#14]
don't but a military gun with out one, otherwise it's just a hunting gun.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 4:48:51 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Is it still something that should be considered in future rifle designs? When your rifle runs out of ammo, your rifle can become just a marginal club, or a club and an effective short spear. Which would you prefer to fight the onrushing hordes with? As a graduate of the Fort Benning bayonet assault course I say leave it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:39:13 AM EDT
[#16]
I remember an early Iraq war instance where a US Army infantry offcer got into a situation inside a building when he engaged bad guys while he was climbing stairs. Bad guys popped up at the top , and he shot them until out of ammo while moving up.
he got to the top as the last guy showed himself, and skewered the guy with his fixed bayonet. I'd prefer having a pokey-stabby thing around, just in case. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:42:45 AM EDT
[#17]
Yes, Mr Stabby Stab should stay around. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:51:10 AM EDT
[#18]
Bayonets can instill fear in the enemy and encourage them to break ranks and run, especially if they're not a professional force. And very handy for close in work.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:56:58 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If nothing else it looks cool... Plus, why the hell not? Get both? And so on... http://<a href=http://i.imgur.com/iT2alcZ.jpg</a>" /> Needs more oil..
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:58:54 AM EDT
[#20]
Better than a shotgun.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:01:41 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's not a knife... http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/10352641424_30d4d35eff_c.jpg Now THAT'S a knife. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted:
If nothing else it looks cool... Plus, why the hell not? Get both? And so on... http://<a href=http://i.imgur.com/iT2alcZ.jpg</a>" /> That's not a knife... http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5522/10352641424_30d4d35eff_c.jpg Now THAT'S a knife. Barely adequate but it IS a step up. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:05:06 AM EDT
[#22]
If you're going to issue a rifle and a knife to a soldier, why not make the two compatible?
Why would you spend money re-designing a fixed blade knife and removing the bayonet lug from the M-4 when what you have works just fine? Sounds like you have a solution in search of a problem. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:15:32 AM EDT
[#23]
Knives don't run out of ammo.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:44:49 AM EDT
[#24]
Hell yes!
What's an 'assault knife'? A knife with a rifle lug on it. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:53:56 AM EDT
[#25]
+1 for leave it alone.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:58:31 AM EDT
[#26]
If I had to choose between a knife or a spear I'd take the spear. Reach is a good thing.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 7:08:59 AM EDT
[#27]
I can think of few things more demoralizing than a bunch of dudes running at you with fixed pig stickers. An arc light strike would be included in the few things.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 7:17:45 AM EDT
[#28]
What is more intimidating? A row of rifles pointing at you or a row of rifles with sharp shiny pointed ends pointed at you?
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 7:20:34 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
If I'm going to war I want to have as many ways to kill a man as I can have. Gotta agree with this outlook. And as they say, " fpni ". Whoever " they " be. GD |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 7:36:18 AM EDT
[#30]
My last 2 deployments we didn't even take bayonets with us. The arms room had Maybe10-15 but hey didn't issue them out. I had my own M9 tho.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 12:24:06 PM EDT
[#31]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mount_Tumbledown
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/archive/index.php/t-17159.html H |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 12:39:43 PM EDT
[#32]
Put yourself in the shoes of the guy facing the bayonet for a second, think what is about to happen.
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:33:52 PM EDT
[#33]
|
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:55:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Psychologically a large edged weapon is quite intimidating.
I would prefer not to face one. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 5:58:47 PM EDT
[#35]
And a bayonet, sir, with some guts behind. |
|
|
|
Posted: 10/27/2013 6:02:46 PM EDT
[#36]
I just traded my only bayonet for a pair of Mosins. But one Mosin has a bayo on it. So it works out even. I didnt even have a gun the bayo fit. My mini 14 was the closest, I have a new front sight block with a lug thay I will install one of these days.
|
|
|
Win a FREE Membership!
Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!
You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.
AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types.
From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm.
Subscribe to our monthly Newsletter to receive firearm news, product discounts from your favorite Industry Partners, and more.
Copyright © 1996-2024 AR15.COM LLC. All Rights Reserved.
Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited.
AR15.Com reserves the right to overwrite or replace any affiliate, commercial, or monetizable links, posted by users, with our own.
