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Posted: 7/24/2013 11:02:16 AM EST
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:12:05 AM EST
Seems accurate in terms of domestic services provided but it does neglect major differences in how those services are provided and foreign policy. My ideal is that yellow circle at the bottom but it will be a long time, maybe never, before it can be considered realistically.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:14:53 AM EST
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Seems accurate in terms of domestic services provided but it does neglect major differences in how those services are provided and foreign policy. My ideal is that yellow circle at the bottom but it will be a long time, maybe never, before it can be considered realistically.
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My ideal is the black circle.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:18:10 AM EST
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Originally Posted By kill-9:

My ideal is the black circle.

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Originally Posted By X_805:
Seems accurate in terms of domestic services provided but it does neglect major differences in how those services are provided and foreign policy. My ideal is that yellow circle at the bottom but it will be a long time, maybe never, before it can be considered realistically.

My ideal is the black circle.


Same here, but in addition to the yellow.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:22:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By kill-9:

My ideal is the black circle.

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Originally Posted By X_805:
Seems accurate in terms of domestic services provided but it does neglect major differences in how those services are provided and foreign policy. My ideal is that yellow circle at the bottom but it will be a long time, maybe never, before it can be considered realistically.

My ideal is the black circle.



I could live with the green one though.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:25:03 AM EST
I guess I'm a Paleo-conservative.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:25:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HogJaws:

Same here, but in addition to the yellow.
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Originally Posted By kill-9:
Originally Posted By X_805:
Seems accurate in terms of domestic services provided but it does neglect major differences in how those services are provided and foreign policy. My ideal is that yellow circle at the bottom but it will be a long time, maybe never, before it can be considered realistically.

My ideal is the black circle.


Same here, but in addition to the yellow.


They are mutually exclusive.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:28:26 AM EST
Green circle for me
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:29:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
I guess I'm a Paleo-conservative.
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I was just thinking the same.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:30:38 AM EST
Green circle imo is an effective way to run a nation.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:31:28 AM EST
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I was just thinking the same.
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Originally Posted By Skillshot:
I guess I'm a Paleo-conservative.


I was just thinking the same.


yep.. does that mean I can only eat red meat?
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 11:33:14 AM EST
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Black circle. Minarchy!
Anything more we start heading into soft then hard tyranny anything less is a temporary anarchy that will quickly be overtaken by force and become tyranny.

Eta- The circles seem drawn maybe randomly or arbitrarily
I support minarchy but roads and a local FD is not necessarily crossing the line to me. So that could include the green circle.

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Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:23:33 PM EST
This illustration is useful in discussions with those who claim that Democrats and Republicans are far apart ideologically.

Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:29:39 PM EST
That's odd that they put "Limited Healthcare" under Conservatism when the Medicare (and SS) is more than the Defense budget.
Link Posted: 7/24/2013 12:34:47 PM EST
Classical liberalism.
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 3:47:25 AM EST
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That's odd that they put "Limited Healthcare" under Conservatism when the Medicare (and SS) is more than the Defense budget.
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Is your point that they consider it "limited" despite the cost?

Link Posted: 7/25/2013 3:49:01 AM EST
I'm a minarchist or a classical liberal, maybe a mixture of the two.
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 4:31:26 AM EST
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Is your point that they consider it "limited" despite the cost?
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That's odd that they put "Limited Healthcare" under Conservatism when the Medicare (and SS) is more than the Defense budget.

Is your point that they consider it "limited" despite the cost?


Yes.
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 4:33:12 AM EST
IIRC Detroit supplied a new change of clothes for hoodrats to wear during job interviews...
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 4:37:38 AM EST
I am somewhere in the black and green circles. I fear that I will live to see the coming of the red circle before I see a return to anywhere near the green or black circles.
Link Posted: 7/25/2013 5:03:28 AM EST
Green with an incredibly limited "safety net", with VERY strict terms on length, amount, and most importantly, payback rates. As much as I believe that this should be provided at a local community and possibly state level (again, very limited and strict), I don't think that is feasible. Hopefully, given enough time of teaching individual accountability and sense of community, the safety net would no longer be needed.

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