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Posted: 11/22/2012 7:11:32 PM EDT
What are the odds out of a 100 cars and two fatalities it was them. You never know. First responders did not even know there was a suburban under the semi truck for four hours.
Send some prayers up for the family guys. Link |
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Prayers inbound. Sorry for your friend's family members. That is terrible.
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Hopefully they didn't suffer during the 4 hours
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Soory to hear that. Give your friend whatever helps he/she needs.
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Hopefully they didn't suffer during the 4 hours Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile First thing i thought of. |
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Where was this? Just outside of Beaumont, TX... Prayers sent... |
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Sorry for your bad news.
Its true , in life . .. . you never do know when your time is up . Enjoy it while you can. |
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Prayers sent.
I need to call my sister, she lives in La Porte. |
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something.
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. More than likely heavy fog, we have been having issues with it all week. |
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. We have thick fog during the spring and fall that suddenly appears. I've driven into fog that you could see about 10 feet in front of you. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Very thick fog along that stretch of interstate (IH-10) at the Jefferson county line.
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Heavy traffic/heavy fog. It was thick this morning. Things can go south in a hurry. |
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Quoted: I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. Extremely heavy fog + interstate = this type of wreck isn't as avoidable as you'd imagine. Think about it... -You can't see anything, so you're unsure how much distance you have between you and the car in front of you. Could be a few lengths, could be a few miles. -You can't see anything, so you're unsure what speed to travel to move along with traffic. You could be barreling towards someone, or have someone barreling towards you. When your situational awareness is zero you're pretty much fucked. If you're going too slow someone might rear end you, if you're going too fast you might hit someone going slow or stopped, if you're pulled over you might get hit, etc. The only safe option in a situation like this is to not be driving in those conditions. |
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We probably know each other then.
While I never met his parents, I feel terrible for the families loss. My prayers are definitely out to the family. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. Extremely heavy fog + interstate = this type of wreck isn't as avoidable as you'd imagine. Think about it... -You can't see anything, so you're unsure how much distance you have between you and the car in front of you. Could be a few lengths, could be a few miles. -You can't see anything, so you're unsure what speed to travel to move along with traffic. You could be barreling towards someone, or have someone barreling towards you. When your situational awareness is zero you're pretty much fucked. If you're going too slow someone might rear end you, if you're going too fast you might hit someone going slow or stopped, if you're pulled over you might get hit, etc. The only safe option in a situation like this is to not be driving in those conditions. I didn't know that fog was a big problem there. It's something I don't even think about having lived in Phoenix, AZ all of my life. |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. More than likely heavy fog, we have been having issues with it all week. This, fucking fog, Please tell everyone you know to pull off the road at a safe place and do not drive in the fog. Praying for the victims. |
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Prayers sent
I saw this on the news this morning and prayed that none of the members here were involved in the crash, its sad to see the the two that died were known by a member. Again prayers sent. |
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very sorry to hear. I read that in the Houston news yesterday and was horrified. They say over 140 vehicles involved.
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I forsee 100 traffic tickets at least being issued.
Driving at unsafe speed for conditions, etc |
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Last time i lived in CA there were two massive pileups in one year. One was near L.A. somewhere due to heavy traffic and big dust storm. The other was near Sacramento due to heavy traffic and dense fog. Both times drivers should have been a little more cautious with the poor visibility.
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My best childhood friend lives in Orange. He is constantly telling me about the horrible traffic and accidents on I-10 between Orange and Beaumont.
He avoids I-10 as much as possible. You'd think all the construction they've been doing almost nonstop for the last 10 years would make things safer. LC |
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Quoted: I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. The article said it was fog combined with speed.... Sorry for your loss, OP. |
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Likely the fog combined with dumbass drivers. I would bet many in that situation were going too fast and/or didn't have their lights on... not that the latter would help all that much in really dense fog.
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I know it was pretty foggy yesterday.. I am sending my prayers
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Sorry for your bad news. Its true , in life . .. . you never do know when your time is up . Enjoy it while you can. Especially on the road. Things can happen in the blink of an eye. Get up in the morning, put your socks and shoes on, step out for a routine day, and end up dead before you're ten miles from the house. Sorry about your friends parents OP. His Thanksgiving Days will never be the same, the poor man |
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Just read this was Mac Machowicz wife's parents.
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. More than likely heavy fog, we have been having issues with it all week. yep. close enough to the coast that the fog can blow in and its really dense. have been in it once where you had to open the door and look down to see the stripes on the road. sorry for your friends loss. live a few minutes away my aunt stopped to take some pictures near baytown and that 3 minute stop kept them out of it. amazing how fragile life can be |
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Sorry to hear of the loss.
I-10 has had a few fog-related incidents. Remember LA a while back? It was 100 cars or so as well. |
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I am sorry for your loss. My question is, how do 100 cars pile up? Was nobody driving at a safe following distance? Not trying to be a dick at all or blame your friends at all. I'm just curious as to how this could happen as it seems completely avoidable unless you're on an ice laden freeway or something. Extremely heavy fog + interstate = this type of wreck isn't as avoidable as you'd imagine. Think about it... -You can't see anything, so you're unsure how much distance you have between you and the car in front of you. Could be a few lengths, could be a few miles. -You can't see anything, so you're unsure what speed to travel to move along with traffic. You could be barreling towards someone, or have someone barreling towards you. When your situational awareness is zero you're pretty much fucked. If you're going too slow someone might rear end you, if you're going too fast you might hit someone going slow or stopped, if you're pulled over you might get hit, etc. The only safe option in a situation like this is to not be driving in those conditions. The only safe option is to not drive into a fog bank. If a fog bank overtakes you get as far onto the shoulder as possible and full stop. leave your flashers on and wait for the fog to clear. |
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Prayers sent,
Weird, I am riding passenger exactly there when I saw this thread. |
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Not to make light of this but after driving from Dallas to Austin last week I can understand why this happened. TX has some of the worst drivers I have seen yet. Left lane campers at 75 MPH with the right lane wide open, tail gating like you wouldn’t believe, construction everywhere, clueless drivers in shit vehicles and elderly cutting over 3 lanes of traffic to make an exit at the last possible moment while doing 80 MPH cutting off everyone just behind them. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!
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Not to make light of this but after driving from Dallas to Austin last week I can understand why this happened. TX has some of the worst drivers I have seen yet. Left lane campers at 75 MPH with the right lane wide open, tail gating like you wouldn’t believe, construction everywhere, clueless drivers in shit vehicles and elderly cutting over 3 lanes of traffic to make an exit at the last possible moment while doing 80 MPH cutting off everyone just behind them. HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!! It was like driving to Vegas from Socal on new years eve. This man is correct, Texas drivers are fucking retarded. |
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