Posted: 10/18/2005 7:29:13 PM EDT
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Just watched this show on PBS about prisoner interogation/torture . Seemed highly left wing biased, those poor prisoners in Gitmo had their feelings hurt.....blah blah blah Anyone else see it? |
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The ass holes raped our troops in Desert Storm v1, and they get pissy about a few embarrassing pictures. Last time I knew, people lie and withhold information unless you find a way to get it out of them. Asking nicely doesn't work. Sometimes for the hard ones you have to do what you have to do. Torture . . . I say if it will keep me and mine safe and sound why not. Stupid people say you and I are next. I don't know about you, but I don't do anything that would ever cause anyone to be suspicious of me, so I don't worry about it. It is just that simple. Torture . . . . . hell yes! |
| I saw it.That shit made me giggle.They show video of our troops video taping themselves wrestling and showing off their weapons and beating the crap out of their body armor, like we're going to say,"See,they're animals." Those bastards deserved everything they got and then some.That wasn't torture,that was" creative interogating." |
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Didn't see the crybaby piece.... My feelings on this have come together over the years. On a strictly idelogical level I oppose torture (real torture, knives, needles, ripping, breaking) as an accepted practice with ordinary prisoners. On a practical level I understand where it might be applied and why it could be nessisary. On a real level...... WOULD THE FUCKTARDS IN THE ARMY PRISONS STOP VIDEO TAPING AND PHOTOGRAPHING THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!! I mean for fuck's sake, stop it. No cameras, phones, tape recorders or otherwise while on the premise |
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Back during Vietnam, there were stories of taking two Viet Cong prisoners up in a helicopter. Questions were then asked. When they stopped answering questions, one of the prisoners got pushed out of the helo. Funny how the remaining one all of a sudden wanted to cooperate. The problem with the public torture debate is that the asshole terriorists watch TV as well. So, if they know that we are not going to torture them, they will just sit back and eat our food and think of new ways to kill Americans once they are released. This is clearly the wrong approach. We need to have the reputation (even if not the reality) of being the meanest torturing assholes that ever asked a question. Let's pull out a few toenails, pour a little sulphuric acid on feet, have some underwater hold-your-breath-for-20-minutes sports, make them eat pork, jack off on a few kurans and the like to get our point across. How about hunt down the prisioners' family and torture his parents? Give me a little while and I will think of something good. Is torture something I approve of? In the abstract, no. However, if I am engaged in a war (or a game for that matter) and my opponents use tactics that are outside the normal rules of engagement, then I believe in modifying my own rules to be just as nasty (or even more so) that my opponent is. The real point here is that the US prides itself on always taking the high road, under the theory that by not torturing our captured enemies, the enemy at large will go easier on our captured soldiers. Well, from what I have seen, beheadings are not going easy on prisoners. So, if strapping electrical cables to the genitals of a terrorist will save one American life, I have only two comments: (1) red is for positive and (2) black is for negative! |
PBS?? what the heck did you expect? they give their donations list to the DNC for soliciting campaign contributions. 
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Well, I don't have cable at this house, so I watched it again tonight. Some BS about slavery  in the americas, poverty in Mexico, and some other sheite.I know , I should stop, but the rewrite of American history and self loathing hippie  crap comes onand I can't stop watching. You know, like a Clinton speech 
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Just an armchair expert like the rest of you... but as I understand it physical torture makes a person willing to say whatever the torture wants to hear. It is not a reliable means of gaining accurate information. There are better ways. Sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation, isolation, drugs, etc. The problem is all these take time... a luxury not always available. |
+1. FLAL1A Al-Tikriti being tortured:
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GITMO camps are there to give the media somthing to look at and report about. The REAL interogating is taking place half way round the world, where no reporter will ever even know it was happening, much less get to interview any of the participants or film anything. The captives (NOTE:not POW's) that are there, while they are highly dangerous and want nothing more than to harm the US and allies, are so far out of the know about current activities that they couldn't give up any important intel if they wanted to. Even so, I wish they would water table each and every one of the bastards. |