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Posted: 3/8/2010 4:03:38 PM EDT
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:04:47 PM EDT
Source?
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:05:46 PM EDT
science bad.  fire good.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:06:37 PM EDT
Its not only paid for by the government, its given to government run universities where liberal elites perform all of the research.  Are you surprised that the only answer they ever have is to tax American industry out of business, for the good of the world.  Also if their research finds there is no problem the funding stops, so there is always a crisis around the corner.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:07:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By spoonrobot:
Source?


Do you really think private industry is paying global warming research and the like?
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:07:43 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:08:17 PM EDT
Lets go ahead an cut all science and funding, and let Russia, China, and the EU continue to fund their research, and in 30 years lets see how we compete...
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:11:23 PM EDT
I didn't know this particular corporation, and other like it, was a government entity.


Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:11:41 PM EDT
Paid by Gov't money yet if you want to read about the results pony up a couple hundred bucks for access to the articles
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:12:32 PM EDT
I don't know quite what to say, so I'd best not say anything.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:12:55 PM EDT
Its peanuts compared to the useless shit the federal government spends money on.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:13:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 68mopar:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)


I'm a scientist for a private company.  No government money here.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:17:15 PM EDT
Yeah! Fuck science! And research! And universities!  And education!

DOWN WITH INTELLIGENCE.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:19:46 PM EDT
I don't know where people come up with this stuff.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:21:57 PM EDT
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:23:24 PM EDT
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.



Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:26:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.


like Al Gore
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:29:59 PM EDT



Originally Posted By 68mopar:



Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.



Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.




like Al Gore


He has not studied science.



 
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:30:28 PM EDT




Originally Posted By 68mopar:



Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.



Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.




like Al Gore
Not a scientist

Just a putz who would preach the danger of Co2 emissions from lepracaun farts if he could make money doing it.



Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:30:51 PM EDT



Originally Posted By 68mopar:


Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)


Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.



 
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:31:02 PM EDT
Obviously the .gov isn't spending enough or you would have learned from your science class in school to present evidence when you make a claim.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:40:34 PM EDT
Originally Posted By retgarr:
Obviously the .gov isn't spending enough or you would have learned from your science class in school to present evidence when you make a claim.


Yup!
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:45:50 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Subnet:

Originally Posted By 68mopar:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)

Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.
 


Depends on the issue!
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:46:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.


Your mainly right... but just a note.  The Humane Genome Project had TONS of public funding.

http://genome.gov/10001772


The .gov can (and should, in my view) fund some basic science that cannot be effectively funded privately.  See: NASA.

Basic technology advanacements are a matter of national security (economic and military), in my view.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:49:12 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Strongbow:
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.


Your mainly right... but just a note.  The Humane Genome Project had TONS of public funding.

http://genome.gov/10001772


The .gov can (and should, in my view) fund some basic science that cannot be effectively funded privately.  See: NASA.

Basic technology advanacements are a matter of national security (economic and military), in my view.


I can Agree on That.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:49:59 PM EDT



Originally Posted By 68mopar:



Originally Posted By Subnet:




Originally Posted By 68mopar:

Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)


Largely? I don't know about that. I always though private investment was much higher.

 




Depends on the issue!
Science is huge. Were you referring to a specific discipline?





 
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:55:01 PM EDT
Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook.  I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 4:58:19 PM EDT
Originally Posted By AJ_Engineer:
Paid by Gov't money yet if you want to read about the results pony up a couple hundred bucks for access to the articles


???

It doesn't cost anything to go to a public library.  And many journals are online with free access (like Journal of Biological Chemistry, for example).
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 5:00:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.


Shut up, shut up!  Science is all a liberal conspiracy to advance socialism and the global warming cult!  Jesus says to ignore your observations.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 5:02:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Originally Posted By 68mopar:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)


I'm a scientist for a private company.  No government money here.


SO,........ How old is the earth?
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 5:03:37 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Originally Posted By 68mopar:
Originally Posted By Keith_J:
Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.

Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.


like Al Gore

He has not studied science.
 


BUT, he has thousands of scientists agreeing with him.,....SO.....
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 5:49:59 PM EDT



Originally Posted By GrIlLa:



Originally Posted By Keith_J:




Originally Posted By 68mopar:


Originally Posted By Keith_J:

Science existed long before our government became the bloated excess it is today.



Science exists in the minds of those seeking truth.




like Al Gore


He has not studied science.

 




BUT, he has thousands of scientists agreeing with him.,....SO.....


And what has happened?  Can they prove anything?  All they have is a weak hypothesis.



 
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 5:59:19 PM EDT



Originally Posted By StandardDeviation:


Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook.  I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.


As long as there is daily prayer and those uppity women know their place, I'm all for it!




 
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 6:03:55 PM EDT
Originally Posted By StandardDeviation:
Science is a bunch of complicated gobbledygook.  I, for one, would prefer to scrape the dirt with my fingers for food, worship the sun, and die of old age at 35.


Dibs on your guns and ammo
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 6:06:23 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Nexus6:
Yeah! Fuck science! And research! And universities!  And education!

DOWN WITH INTELLIGENCE.


op is already working on it.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 6:07:03 PM EDT
Originally Posted By InjunJoe:
Its peanuts compared to the useless shit the federal government spends money on.

This. By a factor of thousands to one.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 6:08:12 PM EDT
For those anti-scientists on here, there's a thread going on in the pit.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 6:46:54 PM EDT
Originally Posted By NavyDoc1:
Almost all groundbreaking science is performed by industry. From computer technology, the Genome Project (DNA mapping), medical technology, etc. all private.


Depends on your definition of groundbreaking.  If you mean applied research translating discoveries into marketable products, then yes.  That's what industry does.  If you mean fundamental, basic, how does it work research, then no.  How many Nobel and Lasker Prizes have gone to people for work they did in an industrial setting?  The groundbreaking work is done in academics.  Industry then develops the application.

Recombinant DNA technology?  Wasn't discovered in industry.

Cholesterol biosynthesis?  Wasn't discovered in industry, but all the big drug companies make a statin.

Invention of the cardiopulmonary bypass machine?  Not industry.

Hemodialysis?  Not industry.

The basic science that the government is funding now is what will lead to the medical breakthroughs 10-20 years from now.  In addition, most of the high powered researchers in big pharma started in academics.
Link Posted: 3/8/2010 7:53:23 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/9/2010 4:28:16 PM EDT
Originally Posted By 68mopar:
Its largely Paid For With Gov.Money! (Our Money)


Science and technology is what makes nations powerful.  If the U.S.A. wants to stay the world leader it must stay ahead of every other nation technologically.  Just because math is hard and physics doesn't make any sense to you does not mean that it is useless or a waste of money.
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