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Posted: 5/5/2004 2:46:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/5/2004 2:49:18 PM EST by LABLOVER]
...several months ago I'm sitting home minding my own damn business when the mailman delivers me a video "Guns of Valor" from the NRA.

I did not order it.

Enclosed is a letter asking for either $9, return it, OR keep it since I did not order it.

So, I kept it and have not sent any money in. I have received at least 5 letters asking for either money or the video back. Each letter gets "stronger". Latest one, received today is from the Treasurer.

What should I do?
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 2:47:19 PM EST
Ignore them.

They pulled the same crap on me and I kept the video.

Link Posted: 5/5/2004 2:52:35 PM EST
We have two of the videos and didn't pay either. They'll stop sending you letters soon.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 2:56:26 PM EST
I watched the video. Then I took the brass coin out of the box and sent the video back. It sure wasn't worth $9.00 to me.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 2:58:23 PM EST
They did exactly the same thing with me last year. Since the original letter clearly stated that "since you did not order this video..." I could keep it OR send it back OR send in $9, I chose to keep it.

The letters started coming, just like you said. Finally, I called the darn phone number and asked what the heck they were trying to pull. The woman on the line said they just wanted some confirmation of what I intended to do. So I told her and that was the end of it.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 3:00:34 PM EST
Kept it.

They should send out porn if they want people to send in the dough!
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 3:01:16 PM EST
I took the coin and returned the video. They do some very aggresive fund raising and I personally can't blame them for it. The few of us who have the balls to belong to the NRA represent the vast majority of assholes who own guns but don't do anything to preserve the right to bear arms. If even half of gun owners joined the NRA we would be in such better shape right now, I truely believe that.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:23:25 PM EST
I paid for the Videos and then they did'nt send anymore... Damnit I wanted all the coins...WTF????
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:31:52 PM EST
They sent me one about two years ago. I read the info about them sending me more videos and I could keep them or return them.
SOOOO....I called the NRA and said I didn't want to hassle with that, if they could send me a list of the videos I'd pick and choose. They said they couldn't do that.
I paid for the video they sent me (Ten Guns That Changed the World) and told them not to send me any more.
Simple as that.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 4:37:46 PM EST
yeah i got this too. i give the NRA money above and beyond my membership because they are probably the only reason we still have guns at all. but some of the aggressive marketing stuff they've done has pissed me off. if it were anyone other than the nra i would have told them to take a flying fuck at a rolling donut.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 6:22:12 PM EST
This junk comes from a vendor that the NRA has licensed to conduct fund raising - look at the fine print on the packaging and literature. They are betting on the percentage - if only 10% of the NRA membership sends them $9, they have a good payday and the NRA gets a cut without a lick of work. However, everyone needs to call NRA anyway and bitch about this unsolicited crap.

You aren't obligated to pay for a tape you didn't order, but you still ought to call and write the low life solicitors to cease sending the junk and the threatening letters.

You might try taping a brick to the return package ...
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 7:00:23 PM EST
Reverse marketing is illegal in FL so I see no reason to pay for it. I dont even have a VCR so I havent even watched mine.
It does piss me off though.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 7:08:50 PM EST
I got one. Kept it. Didn't pay for it. They actually didn't send anything else or call. Bullshit marketing tactic though. Don't cause me to go through any grief so you can get money out of me or not. It's like those guys that paint the numbers on the curbs. They do it unless you go through the hassle of putting a sign out telling them not to do it. I never put the sign out cause it's their problem if they want to paint my curb for me. I've paid them a couple times but the last two times I just told them to screw off because they were coming to my door and giving me attitude about it. Try to sell me something if you want but don't have me work to say no.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:18:01 PM EST
They sent me "Guns of Valor" I kept it I got some strong letters I still have not paid for it.

If someone sends me something that I didnt order or agree to it is a gift. My coin had the 1903 springfield on it
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:29:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By dpmmn:


If someone sends me something that I didnt order or agree to it is a gift. My coin had the 1903 springfield on it



Sign from the Powers That Be that you need a CMP 03 Springfield.
Link Posted: 5/5/2004 8:32:36 PM EST
That is the a very cheesy form of marketing. I kept the video, and so far have received 3 or 4 letters. I hope they learned their lesson.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:08:18 AM EST
I kept the NRA video too. Yesterday a Four Wheeler Ultimate Four Wheeeling video and dvd came in the mail, have not checked it out yet. They want $7.00 for it.

The letter said something about a coin but mine does"nt have one.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:19:00 AM EST
Did anyone else actually sign up to receive the rest of the videos like I did? Sure it's just a reproduction of shows from The History Channel but I figure I get to have movies about guns and help the NRA raise money at the same time, so we both win.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:38:58 AM EST
I got a video last year and read the letter requesting money. I marked "Refused, Return to Sender" on the envelope, the mailcarrier took it away and the NRA got to pay the return postage.
I have an NRA sponsered Visa and the NRA gets $1 for every $100 I spend. That works out to $70 to $100 per year. Otherwise, I don't send them any money!!
This is the FIRST time I've been able to post since the "improved site" was launched. I had almost given up!
NO spell check yet???
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 2:55:17 AM EST
I never got a video but I did get some little book about the history of guns or something. Now I have gotten 2 or 3 letters asking for $9 or send it back. So since I never ordered this book I have no obligation to pay for it or even send it back? Is this right?
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 6:06:53 AM EST

Originally Posted By LABLOVER:
...several months ago I'm sitting home minding my own damn business when the mailman delivers me a video "Guns of Valor" from the NRA.

I did not order it.

Enclosed is a letter asking for either $9, return it, OR keep it since I did not order it.

So, I kept it and have not sent any money in. I have received at least 5 letters asking for either money or the video back. Each letter gets "stronger". Latest one, received today is from the Treasurer.

What should I do?



If you hold out long enough, maybe Heston will come by to collect!

I got the video too. I'm not paying for it (since that would be the equivalent of feeding a stray cat), and there is too much effort involved in sending it back. I think that legally, if they send you something that you did not order, then it is considered a gift.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 6:09:19 AM EST
Erase the tape, and tape a copy of Bowling for Columbine on it, then return it.

Hilarity will ensue, eventually.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 7:20:12 AM EST

Originally Posted By hielo:
Erase the tape, and tape a copy of Bowling for Columbine on it, then return it.

Hilarity will ensue, eventually.



Oh that's funny.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 10:06:06 AM EST
Several years ago one of their telemarketers was trying to get me to take a book with "no obligation". I told him I wasn't interested, but he kept on, emphasizing that I could keep it and just cancel the rest of the series. Finally I said, "OK, send me the book."

I got it and returned the card marked "cancel."

Then they started trying to collect membership dues.

But I didn't join anything.

It took a while but I eventually got them off my back.

The only reason I joined recently is because it's required for the gun club I'm joining.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 10:15:40 AM EST
I got one too and if was anyone other than the NRA I would have kept it. I'm not about to bite the hand that feeds me regardless of my disdain for the marketing tactic used. I simply followed the return instructions and dropped it in the mailbox the next day.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 10:25:44 AM EST
I sent the damn video back TODAY. Sick of the letters. The NRA wastes more damn money sending letters.
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 12:45:10 PM EST
[Last Edit: 5/6/2004 12:46:15 PM EST by Lunatock]

Originally Posted By motown_steve:

Originally Posted By LABLOVER:
...several months ago I'm sitting home minding my own damn business when the mailman delivers me a video "Guns of Valor" from the NRA.

I did not order it.

Enclosed is a letter asking for either $9, return it, OR keep it since I did not order it.

So, I kept it and have not sent any money in. I have received at least 5 letters asking for either money or the video back. Each letter gets "stronger". Latest one, received today is from the Treasurer.

What should I do?




If you hold out long enough, maybe Heston will come by to collect!

I got the video too. I'm not paying for it (since that would be the equivalent of feeding a stray cat), and there is too much effort involved in sending it back. I think that legally, if they send you something that you did not order, then it is considered a gift.



Give me the money you damn dirty ARF!
Link Posted: 5/6/2004 4:09:08 PM EST
E-mail the NRA about it. I did that when they had telemarketers call me. They will put you on a "do not contact" list, and you will never hear from any of the fund raising agencies they use ever again.
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