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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:33:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:34:50 PM EDT
So basically Europe is being turned into one big concentration camp.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:35:03 PM EDT
And this will solve?
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:35:53 PM EDT
Oh good. Those gun free zones always work out so well.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:35:54 PM EDT
Europe...

...this is the proverbial fo tiem.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:36:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Room101:
So basically Europe is being turned into one big concentration camp.
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That's been the higher-ups' plan for the EU all along.....
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:36:31 PM EDT
Boy, take THAT, terrorists! That'll show 'em...
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:36:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fugitive:
Oh good. Those gun free zones always work out so well.
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Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:36:51 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Htown156:
And this will solve?
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It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:36:58 PM EDT
That will fix the problem.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:22 PM EDT
don't worry, social media will save you!
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:30 PM EDT
Yeh, the bad guys will never be able to get weapons

Gun grabbers about to jizz

Expect a big U.S. push if this gets through
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:38 PM EDT
Seems like a reasonable and well thought out response
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fugitive:
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Yea. That'll really show ISIS.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:51 PM EDT
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The guns did it!!!!

Take note, when one of these "refugees" does the same here the progressives will push hard to ban guns instead of addressing the real problem
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:37:59 PM EDT
They would solve more by promoting conceal carry.

Provide training for those who want it to become proficient in firearms safety and use.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:38:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Europe...

...this is the proverbial fo tiem.
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Long past that. Unfortunately, popular opinion is so far gone there will be no foing.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:39:14 PM EDT
The EU is a fucking cancer.

I hope that globalist horseshit never comes here.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:40:44 PM EDT
I hope at least Hungary, Austria and Poland tells them Fuck You
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:40:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JoeJeeps:


Long past that. Unfortunately, popular opinion is so far gone there will be no foing.
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Originally Posted By Rogue-Sasquatch:
Europe...

...this is the proverbial fo tiem.


Long past that. Unfortunately, popular opinion is so far gone there will be no foing.


Maybe in England, France, and Germany.

Finland, Poland, and the Czech Republic may have a different reply.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:41:25 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AmericanPeople:
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Depends on what you mean by "solve"... To a lot of the one-worlders getting rid of the European people would "solve" most of Europe's problems.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:42:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/17/2015 1:43:18 PM EDT by Ronin72]
Step by step, inch by inch. They are assuming the rifles can't be smuggled or made from parts in country. Maybe they should talk to the IRA. Another huge fail by liberal logic...
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:42:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ilove762NATO:
The EU is a fucking cancer.

I hope that globalist horseshit never comes here.
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This.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:44:33 PM EDT


Will they stop the flow of muslim terrorists refugees?
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:44:59 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:45:00 PM EDT
It's being "accelerated" because they can use the tragedy to ram through legislation without public consideration in the wake of the attacks. If it were proposed in more sober times it would be opposed by a number of governments (Finland's is mentioned in particular).
This sounds like a familiar pattern.

So the process goes
-Admit large numbers of refugees from a known conflict zone with no security checks of any kind
-Make little to no effort to capture known terrorists that you know are inside your borders out of a fear of "offending sensibilities"
-These terrorists then perpetrate terrorist acts on your largely defenseless population
-Blame the inanimate objects that they used in their attacks despite their not being legal anyway
-Push through legislation to further restrict law-abiding citizens who had nothing to do with the tragedy
-Refuse to change your policy of bringing in large numbers of refugees from a known conflict zone with no security checks of any kind
-Rinse, lather, repeat

Great recipe for fascism. This is what happens when ideology trumps any kind of sense.

Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:45:38 PM EDT
Given what is happening in Germany and France - isn't the EU pretty much dead at this point?
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:45:40 PM EDT
I guess they didn't feel sufficiently helpless this past Friday.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:46:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:


It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Htown156:
And this will solve?


It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.


This, what a fucking boneheaded idea.

Yes, disarm the folks who are law abiding. That will make you safer. I'm sure that .ter will line up to turn in their AKs immediately.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:47:28 PM EDT
Imagine the lives they could have saved had they done this a week earlier.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:47:40 PM EDT
I'm sure that will fix it.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:47:59 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bobby_the_Hun:
I hope at least Hungary, Austria and Poland tells them Fuck You
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Don't forget the Czech Republic and Switzerland...there are a lot of shooters in both.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:48:37 PM EDT
The EU proposals are just guidelines. It would take national legislation, in each country, to implement them. There will be pushback from some countries, such as Finland.

The practical effect would be nil, regarding terrorism. It would only burden law-abiding citizens, in the few countries that allow semiautomatic rfles now.

In Greece, semiautomatic rifles -- indeed, all rifled long arms, including bolt actions -- are already illegal. Yet the country is awash with AK-47's, with the police estimating that 250,000 are in circulation. (They came in mostly from Albania, when the communist Hoxha regime fell.)

The authorities want to be seen as doing something. They are whistling past the graveyard.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:49:12 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:49:44 PM EDT
I'm 101% completely sure that the AK's used in the massacre were all lawfully purchases semi-automatic firearms...



Seriously, these are TERRORIST...

BIGGER_HAMMER
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:50:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:


It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.
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Originally Posted By Htown156:
And this will solve?


It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.


Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:50:54 PM EDT
Sounds like a problem was created for a solution doesn't it?

Now they can institute total tyrannical control of all independent nations in the EU.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:50:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Bigger_Hammer:
I'm 101% completely sure that the AK's used in the massacre were all lawfully purchases semi-automatic firearms...



Seriously, these are TERRORIST...

BIGGER_HAMMER
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Racist!
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:51:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MagnusAugustus:
It's being "accelerated" because they can use the tragedy to ram through legislation without public consideration in the wake of the attacks. If it were proposed in more sober times it would be opposed by a number of governments (Finland's is mentioned in particular).
This sounds like a familiar pattern.

So the process goes
-Admit large numbers of refugees from a known conflict zone with no security checks of any kind
-Make little to no effort to capture known terrorists that you know are inside your borders out of a fear of "offending sensibilities"
-These terrorists then perpetrate terrorist acts on your largely defenseless population
-Blame the inanimate objects that they used in their attacks despite their not being legal anyway
-Push through legislation to further restrict law-abiding citizens who had nothing to do with the tragedy
-Refuse to change your policy of bringing in large numbers of refugees from a known conflict zone with no security checks of any kind
-Rinse, lather, repeat

Great recipe for fascism. This is what happens when ideology trumps any kind of sense.

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Liberal fascism where tyranny comes telling you what's best for you - and what's best for you is to be open minded and multicultural.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:51:52 PM EDT
Does anyone read anything? They can get semi-automatic rifles with a permit ... not a total ban.

"According to PAP, if Member States agree to the proposal of the European Commission, individuals will not be able to buy (for example) certain types of Kalashnikov (which Polish law permits). To acquire such a semi-automatic weapon that at least the premise is to serve the purpose of sports, but you have to have a permit."
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:53:16 PM EDT
When I was in the Balkans about 10 years ago, there were enough AKs and every other kind of Combloc weapon around that there's no way they could have got rid of them in 10 years, so I'm guessing there's still shit-tonnes of hardware withing a day's drive wherever you are in the EU.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:53:25 PM EDT
This is a stupid idea .
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:54:48 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:54:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By DK-Prof:
There doesn't really seem to be a credible source for that - just a rumor.
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If European government has the same kind of assholes that are in American government, the idea is believable.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:55:28 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
This is a stupid idea .
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That's the EU... one stupid idea promulgating a whole bunch of new stupid ideas.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:56:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Hoyle33:
Does anyone read anything? They can get semi-automatic rifles with a permit ... not a total ban.

"According to PAP, if Member States agree to the proposal of the European Commission, individuals will not be able to buy (for example) certain types of Kalashnikov (which Polish law permits). To acquire such a semi-automatic weapon that at least the premise is to serve the purpose of sports, but you have to have a permit."
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Depends on how hard the permit is to get. Try getting a permit for "Category D" firearms in Australia. You really can't. Technically you can own a semi-auto center-fire with a permit. In reality almost no one does and they're so highly restricted that there is an effective ban on them.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:57:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By Htown156:
And this will solve?


It will solve the problem of too many white people in Europe.




And not a minute too soon. Paris was nearly destroyed by white aggression over the weekend. Damn privilege.
Link Posted: 11/17/2015 1:57:48 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2015 2:00:05 PM EDT
I will just leave this here.

http://www.guncite.com/gc2ndfqu.html

" Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretence, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive."
---Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution (Philadelphia 1787).
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