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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:10:32 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:15:07 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:17:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:41:06 AM EDT
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I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:42:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL  |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:52:26 AM EDT
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In moves reminiscent of the children's tale: "The Mouse that Roared," Argentina's prime minister is still complaining about the so-called "malvinas" (the Falkland Islands) belonging to the U.K.
The U.K. military presence in and around the Falklands is thought to be small - including one advanced tech guided missle ship, at least one sub and about 4 advanced fighters. But the Argentine military is a mere shadow of its former self and the economy of Argentina is still a mess more than a decade after the collapse of the Peso (previously, it was pegged in value to the U.S. dollar. That did not work out well for them). Plus, the U.K. probably has enough satalite tech to see the Argies comming looooong ahead of time. If the Argies were foolish enough to try a second invasion, the U.K. sub(s) can decimate anything undersea, the surface ship can decimate anything on the water, and whatever's left over or in the air won't get past the jets. Why is anyone still interested? Because: there may be undersea oil deposits in the region and Argentina is so desperate, they have nothing to lose by saber-rattling over a lost cause. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 10:52:57 AM EDT
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I always thought that this was a cool magazine cover.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:22:31 AM EDT
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A bomber fleet that did not practice inflight refueling or conventional bombing or have maps of the target...
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:24:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL When Israel andHezbollah were really going at it in 2006. My co-workers thought I was going to be re-called and brought in to fight that battle.  |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:29:18 AM EDT
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The Argies got their licks in.
Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:31:24 AM EDT
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I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:33:19 AM EDT
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I used to love watching those Vulcans fly around Offutt AFB when I was a wee lad.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:33:33 AM EDT
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I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg All new meaning to Iron Lady. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:33:36 AM EDT
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:35:26 AM EDT
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Is that the last hoorah of solo British expeditions? I would think their expeditionary capabilities really suck now.
Fucking NATO was begging for us to provided 90% of the support to bomb Libya. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:36:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All new meaning to Iron Lady. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg All new meaning to Iron Lady.  |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:36:27 AM EDT
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Is that the last hoorah of solo British expeditions? I would think their expeditionary capabilities really suck now. Fucking NATO was begging for us to provided 90% of the support to bomb Libya. Have you seen the current and projected numbers on the RN and RAF? 
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:36:30 AM EDT
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Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first Good point. Some of the Brit ships steaming to the Falklands had already been sold to other countries. Do they still have a carrier? |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:37:17 AM EDT
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I always thought that this was a cool magazine cover. http://www.forces80.com/images/The_empire_strikes_back_newsweek.jpg Coolest front page and title ever. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:38:47 AM EDT
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The fact that the bomber was basically WW2 era technology left me
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:38:50 AM EDT
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I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg She did it better than Dukakis. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:39:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you seen the current and projected numbers on the RN and RAF? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Is that the last hoorah of solo British expeditions? I would think their expeditionary capabilities really suck now. Fucking NATO was begging for us to provided 90% of the support to bomb Libya. Have you seen the current and projected numbers on the RN and RAF? Yeah. We're going to remain the Western Europe bodyguard for a long time.  |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:40:08 AM EDT
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I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg They don't call her iron Lady for nothing......she's one tough women........ 
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:42:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. We're going to remain the Western Europe bodyguard for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Is that the last hoorah of solo British expeditions? I would think their expeditionary capabilities really suck now. Fucking NATO was begging for us to provided 90% of the support to bomb Libya. Have you seen the current and projected numbers on the RN and RAF? Yeah. We're going to remain the Western Europe bodyguard for a long time.  Seems like every year they are decommissioning more and more equipment |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:42:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:52:41 AM EDT
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Good point. Some of the Brit ships steaming to the Falklands had already been sold to other countries. Do they still have a carrier? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first Good point. Some of the Brit ships steaming to the Falklands had already been sold to other countries. Do they still have a carrier? Unless you count the HMS ocean, no. Not until the QE comes online in a million years. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 11:54:00 AM EDT
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so true , a few more bombs on target or a few more planes before we got boot on the ground would have hurt us bad. edit to add.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74
All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:04:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:11:54 PM EDT
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Meh, good shoot.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:13:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first So did the Brits. If it had gotten much hairer the Brits would have taken the fight to the mainland and cratered airfields. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:13:14 PM EDT
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Fuck the Argies.
They were shitting in people's houses, and we won't stand for that |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:13:39 PM EDT
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Great video! ....Salute......
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:13:58 PM EDT
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In moves reminiscent of the children's tale: "The Mouse that Roared," Argentina's prime minister is still complaining about the so-called "malvinas" (the Falkland Islands) belonging to the U.K. The U.K. military presence in and around the Falklands is thought to be small - including one advanced tech guided missle ship, at least one sub and about 4 advanced fighters. . The 4 Typhoons there would probably wipe out the Argentinian air force in half a day if they break for lunch. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:14:50 PM EDT
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. A fuse, a fuse! My kingdom for a proper low-altitude fuse! 
Anybody who can drop a dumb iron bomb from a jet and hit a ship is a certified bad ass. In before the FALfags. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:16:11 PM EDT
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I'm no expert but i think they just dropped too low , they had some very good pilots Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74
All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives I read in Max Stanley's book (I think) that there were fuze problems. The Argies tried to get the fuzes replaced by the American OEM as they were still under warranty and they were turned away. And they did have good brave pilots. They were flying against British warships and Harriers at the very limit of their fuel range. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:18:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So did the Brits. If it had gotten much hairer the Brits would have taken the fight to the mainland and cratered airfields. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. Yup I think Argentina could had taken it if they went all in, but they only partially committed their forces Also would had helped if they let the UK decom and sell their carriers first So did the Brits. If it had gotten much hairer the Brits would have taken the fight to the mainland and cratered airfields. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:18:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL They weren't total airheads: we do have a history of being drawn into Britain's fights. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:20:13 PM EDT
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That was a cool video.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:20:31 PM EDT
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They weren't total airheads: we do have a history of being drawn into Britain's fights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL They weren't total airheads: we do have a history of being drawn into Britain's fights. Most airheads know about the Monroe doctrine |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:27:56 PM EDT
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She did it better than Dukakis. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg She did it better than Dukakis. Just what I was thinking. She pulled it off. Dukakis, not so much.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:31:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A fuse, a fuse! My kingdom for a proper low-altitude fuse! http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/broadsword.jpg Anybody who can drop a dumb iron bomb from a jet and hit a ship is a certified bad ass. In before the FALfags. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. A fuse, a fuse! My kingdom for a proper low-altitude fuse! http://theaviationist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/broadsword.jpg Anybody who can drop a dumb iron bomb from a jet and hit a ship is a certified bad ass. In before the FALfags. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:32:45 PM EDT
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The Empire Strikes back....barely. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:33:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Never seen that. Thanks Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm just going to leave this here. Thatcher in a tank. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/08/article-2305751-01437B2F00001005-619_634x503.jpg All new meaning to Iron Lady. That woman was a badass. May she rest in peace.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:34:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most airheads know about the Monroe doctrine Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL They weren't total airheads: we do have a history of being drawn into Britain's fights. Most airheads know about the Monroe doctrine Good point. So maybe his classmates really thought he might be going off to repel the Imperialist invaders from Britain and defend our South American brothers. |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:34:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm no expert but i think they just dropped too low , they had some very good pilots Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives |
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:35:09 PM EDT
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I'm no expert but i think they just dropped too low , they had some very good pilots Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Argies got their licks in. Wasn't exactly a walk in the park for the Brits. edit to add. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XURB0G4Qd74
All they needed were the BOmbs to actually explode. Shitty fusing saved a lot of British lives Yes - that is my understanding as well. From what I recall, the various Brit anti-aircraft missiles proved devastating as soon as they were deployed against Argy air assets. The immediate response by Argy pilots was to come in on bombing runs at extremely low altitude; to have done otherwise would have been nearly suicidal on the pilot's part given the technology they were forced to fight with; I do not believe they had effective ECM to counter the Brit anti-aircraft rockets. Problem was that the munitions carried by the Argies were either not fuzed by the ground based ordnance crew for that altitude or the munitions were not capable of effective deployment at that altitude. EDIT: just re-read post above about U.S.-made fuzes under warranty that they tried to return to Walmart but were turned away. 
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:41:07 PM EDT
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Good point. So maybe his classmates really thought he might be going off to repel the Imperialist invaders from Britain and defend our South American brothers.
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I'd enlisted in March, 1982, on delayed entry into the Air Force. Some of my classmates worried I was going to be sent to the Falklands, I had to explain to the airheads that it was a fight between the Brits and the Argentines. LOL They weren't total airheads: we do have a history of being drawn into Britain's fights. Most airheads know about the Monroe doctrine Good point. So maybe his classmates really thought he might be going off to repel the Imperialist invaders from Britain and defend our South American brothers.
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Posted: 12/4/2013 12:46:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/4/2013 1:41:34 PM EDT
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Cameron is lucky the Argentina is completly fucked up. They cut their carrier fleet and the harriers, sacked RAF pilots about to graduate and they're lucky to have 6 typhoons working at the same time.
I bet the welfare queens still get their handouts though. |
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