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Link Posted: 5/9/2024 10:59:43 PM EDT
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Not trying to hijack the thread.  My grandpa (a WW II Marine) mailed that Trooper to my dad in Vietnam.   One time my dad was wounded (he has 3 Purple Hearts) he gave the gun to a MSgt.  He never thought he'd get it back.  A tour later he ran into that MSgt and got his Trooper back.
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Cool as fuck.

Anyway I’m also curious how these bring backs aren’t full auto?
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 11:02:38 PM EDT
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I admit I know little about the history of AK-47s, but I thought all AK-47 rifles were full-auto (other than ones built for the commercial market).

I wouldn’t have expected to see a Vietnam war AK in semi-auto.

Anyway, great post!
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These are SKS rifles, that were semi auto as designed and used by various militaries.

There are some Vietnam bring back AKs, but they are much more rare than the SKS’ and they had to (legally at least) be brought in country and registered in 1968 or earlier.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 11:10:02 PM EDT
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Cool rifle OP

Who is this Tarkan and what is he doing on this site?
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Link Posted: 5/9/2024 11:14:30 PM EDT
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If anyone ever runs across an SKS with the serial number PN5576 with the N being backwards, I owned it for a time. I foolishly sold it but I did include the capture papers with it. If you have it and the capture papers, I can tell you the name of the soldier that captured it. I even have a picture somewhere of me holding it.
Link Posted: 5/9/2024 11:16:16 PM EDT
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Are we allowed to say he CAN PACK SAND??
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I believe a mod has already escorted the loser out.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 12:02:34 AM EDT
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A local nightclub/bar/restaurant was in a large barn-like structure. The 18-20 ft tall walls were lined with photos of local military members from WWII to Desert Storm. One of them showed a man holding an SKS wearing tiger stripe fatigues and a boonie hat. Next to that were two more frames with some type of papers in them and on the iron proped up next to the beam was a ratty old SKS.  I always wondered if that was a bringback. They sold the place a few years ago, just locked the doors, and walked away from it. I have wondered since if that rifle is still up there on that wall.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 9:13:04 AM EDT
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So this thread inspired me to dig out my Sino-soviet SKS. All matching metal. Original flat blade bayonet.

Second gun I ever bought, got it out of the crate at a gunshow in the early eighties for 80 bucks. Cleaning the cosmoline off was fun. Anyone ever get their finger stuck in the butt trap door?

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Link Posted: 5/10/2024 11:24:23 AM EDT
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 Anyone ever get their finger stuck in the butt trap door?
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Link Posted: 5/10/2024 11:29:23 AM EDT
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Was hoping to see a 'necklace', or a skull. But that is cool too.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 12:41:46 PM EDT
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Ammoman had a bringback sks for sale....
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That was some good drama us old school members recall. Ammoman was the "go-to" ammo guy here at that time and still decided double down on being a lying POS...
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 12:49:51 PM EDT
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Second gun I ever bought, got it out of the crate at a gunshow in the early eighties for 80 bucks. Cleaning the cosmoline off was fun. Anyone ever get their finger stuck in the butt trap door?

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Yes... as a child I would take my dads SKS down off the plaque mount and play with it while my folks were not home. one time I found the cleaning kit the hard way and thought I would be caught with my hand stuck in there when they got home!

I eventually got the leverage needed to get my finger out with only a little damage, mostly to my pride.
Link Posted: 5/10/2024 2:53:58 PM EDT
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Here’s another photo showing the triangle 26 arsenal stamp and the Cyrillic serial number on the receiver. You can also see a ding from a charging handle showing that this rifle got bumped pretty hard while in the rack.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8014_jpeg-3209922.JPG

Here’s another photo showing the left side mounted sling loop and the serial number on the stock, which obviously doesn’t match the serial number on the receiver. In fact, this being a Sino Soviet rifle, anyone who knows anything about Chinese SKS rifles would immediately know that at some point it was retrofitted with the later production Chinese style stock and bayonet. And if someone didn’t know that, I actually mentioned it in the original post.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8015_jpeg-3209925.JPG

Here’s another photo of the wrist area of the stock, showing the distinctive grain of the chu wood stock As well as remnants of the Chinese orange shellac finish.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8016_jpeg-3209928.JPG

Here’s a close-up of the front portion of the stock, again, showing a very distinctive chu wood grain, as well as remnants of the orange finish. While not the original stock, it is very clearly a Chinese chu wood SKS stock. I’m not sure how anyone could look at this and conclude otherwise.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8017_jpeg-3209930.JPG

Here’s a photo showing the bolt carrier and rear site. Although the serial numbers do not match, it appears that the operating parts are all Sino Soviet.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8018_jpeg-3209932.JPG

I’ll leave it to you guys to decide if the grain pattern is a “bazillion times wrong”. Whatever that means. Perhaps that is a technical term employed by elite appraisers of SKS rifles. I know I’ve never heard that expression before.

I don’t get paid to appraise SKS rifles. But as a trial attorney, I do get paid to establish who’s being truthful, and who is a liar. Hopefully, this follow-up post helps with that. If not, I can provide more evidence if my antagonist is willing to Provide any objective evidence that this rifle is not a Vietnam bring back. If I’m wrong, I will admit it. All he has to do is show me one of those four things that disqualify it as being a valid Vietnam trophy. I will remind everyone that I said in the original post that the capture papers are long gone, so this is just another SKS. It’s not for sale and never will be during my lifetime so I have nothing to gain by misrepresenting its providence. But if someone can look at a photo and immediately pronounce it “100% BS,” and then claim that there are four things that are “way off,” That person bears the burden of proof to back up his claims.
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Felt like we were headed for a Mr. Higgs level face-fucking before poor Tardkan got the boot. Fare thee well Tardkan.. we hardly knew ya
Link Posted: 5/11/2024 5:26:00 PM EDT
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Here’s another photo showing the triangle 26 arsenal stamp and the Cyrillic serial number on the receiver. You can also see a ding from a charging handle showing that this rifle got bumped pretty hard while in the rack.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8014_jpeg-3209922.JPG

Here’s another photo showing the left side mounted sling loop and the serial number on the stock, which obviously doesn’t match the serial number on the receiver. In fact, this being a Sino Soviet rifle, anyone who knows anything about Chinese SKS rifles would immediately know that at some point it was retrofitted with the later production Chinese style stock and bayonet. And if someone didn’t know that, I actually mentioned it in the original post.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8015_jpeg-3209925.JPG

Here’s another photo of the wrist area of the stock, showing the distinctive grain of the chu wood stock As well as remnants of the Chinese orange shellac finish.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8016_jpeg-3209928.JPG

Here’s a close-up of the front portion of the stock, again, showing a very distinctive chu wood grain, as well as remnants of the orange finish. While not the original stock, it is very clearly a Chinese chu wood SKS stock. I’m not sure how anyone could look at this and conclude otherwise.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8017_jpeg-3209930.JPG

Here’s a photo showing the bolt carrier and rear site. Although the serial numbers do not match, it appears that the operating parts are all Sino Soviet.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/99594/IMG_8018_jpeg-3209932.JPG

I’ll leave it to you guys to decide if the grain pattern is a “bazillion times wrong”. Whatever that means. Perhaps that is a technical term employed by elite appraisers of SKS rifles. I know I’ve never heard that expression before.

I don’t get paid to appraise SKS rifles. But as a trial attorney, I do get paid to establish who’s being truthful, and who is a liar. Hopefully, this follow-up post helps with that. If not, I can provide more evidence if my antagonist is willing to Provide any objective evidence that this rifle is not a Vietnam bring back. If I’m wrong, I will admit it. All he has to do is show me one of those four things that disqualify it as being a valid Vietnam trophy. I will remind everyone that I said in the original post that the capture papers are long gone, so this is just another SKS. It’s not for sale and never will be during my lifetime so I have nothing to gain by misrepresenting its providence. But if someone can look at a photo and immediately pronounce it “100% BS,” and then claim that there are four things that are “way off,” That person bears the burden of proof to back up his claims.
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Genuinely curious about what makes it sino soviet? I do not proclaim to be an sks expert but have a couple in the safe.
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 11:19:21 AM EDT
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Was his name Charlie by any chance?
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its actually really hard to find a Vietnamese man named Charlie.
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 11:28:04 AM EDT
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I've got a wall hanger K98 bring back. The bore is so shot out a bullet will drop through it.

I've been tempted to rebarrel it but I think I'll leave the history alone. 1936 Berlin if I recall correctly.
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You could probably get liner put in it and it have an original barrel still
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 11:40:47 AM EDT
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"I don't work for free."

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Translation:  I'm too smart for you internet gun forum rubes, so you'd best be showing me some respect.

It's the "I know what I gots" in terms of expertise.  What you "gots" is instant doubt on anything else  you posted, and you won't even post your knowledge to back up your claim. Might as well have said, "If I tell you I have to kill you," or some other LARPing pseudo-internet expert bullshit.
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 11:57:53 AM EDT
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So this thread inspired me to dig out my Sino-soviet SKS. All matching metal. Original flat blade bayonet.

Second gun I ever bought, got it out of the crate at a gunshow in the early eighties for 80 bucks. Cleaning the cosmoline off was fun. Anyone ever get their finger stuck in the butt trap door?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/69887/1000003847_jpg-3210251.JPG

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Hasn't everyone that has owned one?
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 12:25:18 PM EDT
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My dad returned from two consecutive years in Vietnam as a USMC LtCol, and brought back his FMF flag (which was donated to the Marine Corps Museum shortly after his death), his 45 shoulder holster, a Vietnamese silk peasant dress (white, which the seamstress fought him over...not appropriate for officer wife!) and a set of Mikimoto pearls, presumably from the PX. I've always wondered why he didn't bring back his 45, but I think he'd had enough of guns at that point in his life.

I have his 1966 issued Benrus watch and a sterling silver bracelet from his first (mustang) assignment as an officer in the Korean War.

I'm not doubting the provenance of anyone's family or friend bring-back, but look up the word "distressing" as it applies to the antiques trade before you spend significant money on a battle-worn weapon. It's an art form in England, and there is no end of unscrupulous people in the rest of the world.
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 12:46:41 PM EDT
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Many, MANY years ago, I bought a registered Chinese communist AK47 (select fire) for $400 plus the $200 tax.  Back then ammo for it cost around $25 per box IF YOU COULD FIND IT.  I figured that $20 worth of ammo would fire off faster than lighting a $20 bill on fire...so I traded the rifle for a National Match M1-A and a bunch of accessories.
Link Posted: 5/22/2024 12:53:51 PM EDT
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One of my bring backs with some other stuff. had the barrel spiked on this one because the chamber was pitted/corroded and absolutely not safe to shoot. Brass would  swell and deform. Other one is in much nicer condition and it gets fired often. Have the bring back papers on both.


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Link Posted: 5/22/2024 1:06:10 PM EDT
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Ok, I feel old now. Thanks.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 8:25:57 AM EDT
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Genuinely curious about what makes it sino soviet? I do not proclaim to be an sks expert but have a couple in the safe.
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@Lone_Gringo

This guy does a great job of explaining it and putting it in historical context.
What is a “Sino-Soviet” SKS?
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 10:24:53 AM EDT
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@Lone_Gringo

This guy does a great job of explaining it and putting it in historical context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcEd0tvjZs
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@TheRealBluedog

Thanks, that's good info.
Link Posted: 5/23/2024 9:51:24 PM EDT
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@Lone_Gringo

This guy does a great job of explaining it and putting it in historical context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcEd0tvjZs
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Genuinely curious about what makes it sino soviet? I do not proclaim to be an sks expert but have a couple in the safe.


@Lone_Gringo

This guy does a great job of explaining it and putting it in historical context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEcEd0tvjZs


Does he do it for a living and charge for it? hehehe
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