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Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:16:56 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:16:57 PM EDT
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They were right. FatPAP'ers are commies. Git em! 
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Reckon he could have been planning on using it like a hooka rig to breathe while submerged in the bathtub? 
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:17:07 PM EDT
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Those are all Surefire 100s, correct?

I count fifteen on the floor, and one of the rifles pictured has another one loaded.

1600 rounds, not counting the other rifle pictured that appeared to be chambered in 7.62...

Sweet Jesus

I'm not someone prone to speculation, however, based on the timeline I wonder if he offed himself shortly after shooting through the door at the security guard?

My point is that this could have been much much worse had he been able to expend all of his ammunition.
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Those are all Surefire 100s, correct?

I count fifteen on the floor, and one of the rifles pictured has another one loaded.

1600 rounds, not counting the other rifle pictured that appeared to be chambered in 7.62...

Sweet Jesus

I'm not someone prone to speculation, however, based on the timeline I wonder if he offed himself shortly after shooting through the door at the security guard?

My point is that this could have been much much worse had he been able to expend all of his ammunition.
There are at least three more in the guns on the pushed together chairs.  Figure 2K rounds minimum.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:17:33 PM EDT
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They are removing comments and making it so you can't comment.
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Light up their FaceBook page

https://www.facebook.com/machinegunsvegas/
Done. C'mon guys, let's get heard!
They are removing comments and making it so you can't comment.
Then cross post negative comments on your own page with a link to theirs.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:17:55 PM EDT
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I'm sure people will appreciate Stephen Cloobeck's $400k donation, but talking about automatic weapons when he clearly has no idea how they're acquired is foolish.
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It may come out in a few days that possibly some LE arrived at the concert area, and, if
any of those LE had rifles perhaps they engaged him from their positions. Once it
became a 2-way range, he probably shot himself then.
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I really doubt that- since there are no holes in the nearby windows from incoming rounds.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:18:04 PM EDT
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How did his leg just happen to slide under the rifle that is on the bi-pod without knocking it over? Weird things happen, but that looks a little staged.
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He was probably holding it.

Engaged the cop / security guys at the door, then offed himself with the revolver.

Watch more of the "bad guys getting shot" thread and you'll see all sorts of flopping around after getting hit.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:18:15 PM EDT
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Who is this dumb chubby fucker on Fox News wanting "insane" guns done away with?
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Stephen Cloobeck, President of Diamond Resorts...................which is officially off of my list of places to stay
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:18:28 PM EDT
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Who is this fucking retard saying they were automatic guns and that anybody can by automatic weapons? And calling for gun action. How the fuck can you call for action when you don’t know wtf you are talking about?
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:18:40 PM EDT
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In his death photo he appears to be bald.  Chemo patient?
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Maybe you are onto something??m

Is the blue and yellow tube for a breathing treatment?

His DRT pic...he looks like he lost weight versus his other pics.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:19:14 PM EDT
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Who is this fucking retard saying they were automatic guns and that anybody can by automatic weapons? And calling for gun action. How the fuck can you call for action when you don’t know wtf you are talking about?
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It's okay because he talked to his hunter friends and they all agree with him
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:19:35 PM EDT
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Tried to seam the pics.

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:19:42 PM EDT
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Flag at press release has gold trim.

I repeat: gold trim.

Prepare for Joinder.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:19:45 PM EDT
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Who's the asshole talking on fox about a conversation?
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:19:55 PM EDT
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Nevada is now solidly blue.  

Let us see what they do.
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Lots was done at the state level.  Even in Colorado.

Gun control is dead at the federal level for now, but expect blue and even some purple states to try something.
Nevada is now solidly blue.  

Let us see what they do.
Vegas is run by a continuing criminal enterprise with a figurehead wife of Oscar Goodman.

We saw her yesterday at one of the press briefings, Carolyn Goodman.

Only real reason she is the mayor is because of a long-lasting Mafia empire.

There are aspects of this case that are well outside of the normal scope of mass shootings.
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No because I can justify a 40 round mag in an argument with a liberal. Can you do the same with a bump fire? It ain't covered under the 2nd. It's got no practical application to speak of other than being a cool toy. And all those operators operating operationally in their parents basement who use it so they can feel what it must be like "on the teams."
A bump stock is not required to bump fire, many, many semi-autos.  What now Mr. Wizard?
Ban pants!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD213VW6WjY
I support the banning of pants. It's time to start a bi-partisan dialogue on the material that hides a glorious snake from the views of attractive women.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:03 PM EDT
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Is this the shooters leg in bottom near the corner? The pants and shoes seem to match the other pic with his legs and guns. It appears like it is upright like he's standing on it. If so, who took the pic?

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Different pants
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We get it.  You don't like bump fire stocks and want them sacrificed at the altar of anti-freedom government appeasement, thereby saving your preferred firearms for the time being.  Just know, there is someone out there that wants to sacrifice your favorites to save their shotguns and deer rifles.  You are literally throwing other peoples rights in front of yours as a sheild.  And yes you do have a right to that piece of plastic just as you do other accessories such as an optic.  

Disgusting.
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Actually you don't have every right to own that useless piece of plastic. It's not a firearm. It's an accessory. Not having one in no way impedes on your 2A rights. I love it. I won't defend your non existent right to own a shitty piece of plastic so I'm a coward. FOAD with that shit. There is no fight to be had. That little piece of plastic you have a man crush on will be done for the moment the ATF deems it unworthy of approval. And how about you grow a set and move out of that shitty socialist state? Man up and show you have the conviction you try and shame other for not possessing.
We get it.  You don't like bump fire stocks and want them sacrificed at the altar of anti-freedom government appeasement, thereby saving your preferred firearms for the time being.  Just know, there is someone out there that wants to sacrifice your favorites to save their shotguns and deer rifles.  You are literally throwing other peoples rights in front of yours as a sheild.  And yes you do have a right to that piece of plastic just as you do other accessories such as an optic.  

Disgusting.
I guess he was fine with the assault weapons ban then. Folding and collapsing stocks are just plastic accessories, right?
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:23 PM EDT
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The most simple scenario is the most likely guys.

1. The video of the pussy hat, NASA shirt wearing guy is pretty convincing even before the “hi Steve” audio is considered.

2. The video of his brother is interesting especially when the political affiliation piece comes up.  The body language changes and he’s being evasive.

3. The target was largely made up of Trump supporters.

4. Point #3 provides the opportunity to inflict massive harm on those that oppose him ideologically.  Bonus for using their beloved second amendment and “assault weapons” being used against them.  He gets to show what they can do and hopefully divide the right on one of their core issues.  We all know 23+ weapons is excessive and this further fuels the narrative of an Arsenal.  The media will obviously beat this topic to death, after all how could one man amass something so deadly?

5. The media is being suspiciously objective during this and fired one of their own incredibly fast after a rogue tweet.  They’ve fueled decisiveness for months and fear backlash from the public.

6. The feds and local PD want to let things cool off before releasing these details in fear of retaliation.  That’s why they’re slower in this case than they have been in the past.
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To which I will add:  the entire scenario (as you outlined) matches exactly with what Antifa has been saying "needs" to be done.

Like one of the investigators (can't remember name) involved in the (original) OJ Simpson case/trial said:  we didn't assume OJ did it; we folowed the evidence...and it led us to OJ.

Maybe some of us jumped to the conclusion that Paddock was a left wing loon, but let's start with the victims and see where that leads us.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:23 PM EDT
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A fucking psychopath literally walked through an elementary school and killed kids with an AR with Obama and his ilk running the show, and that didn't do it.

Go back to DU.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:31 PM EDT
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Remember the guy pages back saying his SF(?) buddy had seen a manifest/manifesto of sorts? You may be looking at it.
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Could be.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:43 PM EDT
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The news claimed a team of officers made it to his room while the situation was ongoing, but needed to wait for a breech team.
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This is absolutely true.  Listen to the audio of the police feed.  One of the first officers to come on with a shooter location just after the first call in nailed the location - window 32nd floor of Mandalay.  Called it right out and was certain.  The confusion and conflicting shooter locations started coming in later.  Shorty thereafter same or different officer assembled a "strike team" and within a few minutes they called in that he was directly under the shooter on the floor below inside Mandalay.  Shortly after that they were waiting for a SWAT team and not proceeding to take down the room it sounded like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpMrm1xUJ40
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:20:48 PM EDT
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How did his leg just happen to slide under the rifle that is on the bi-pod without knocking it over? Weird things happen, but that looks a little staged.
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He could have been standing with the rifle over his foot, shot himself and as he fell his leg slid under.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:21:05 PM EDT
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Good job.
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Yea, they're usually angry at someone or something they know, or think they know. 

How many are truly absolutely random? 
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GD Logic: All mass shooters have one of two possible motives, Islamism or Communism. When there is no hard evidence to establish one of the two GD-preferred narratives, that's because the government and media, acting together, covered it up, even though "we president now." It's a self-proving conspiracy! Yeah!

Never mind that most U.S. mass shootings have no connection to Islamism or Communism. Never mind that nut jobs often act out of multiple motives. Never mind that we've yet to confirm that pink pussy hat protester is the shooter or even that the shooter worked at NASA. Never mind that not even the internet sleuths have found any evidence of an actual Antifa affiliation.

Maybe we should give it 72 hours or so before we decide there's a cover-up of this guy's motives. If he had a leftist political motivation, it will certainly be soft-pedaled by the media. But I think it's early to be jumping on the conspiracy bandwagon.
Yea, they're usually angry at someone or something they know, or think they know. 

How many are truly absolutely random? 
(Seemingly) random violence usually isn't (random).
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:21:36 PM EDT
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It's been posted 50 times already.
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Got a picture of the shooter after he ate a round.  Supposedly.

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It's been posted 50 times already.
Damn this place...
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:21:57 PM EDT
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I could not care less about post count, I just know that people aren't following the thread and click on the newest page to check in.
But, I got it, will do. I asked 2 or 3 pages ago if you guys wanted me to stop and no one said anything.
I apologize for the inconvenience.
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every couple of pages would do.

thank you.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:22:10 PM EDT
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The first wife was 27 years ago.  The ex in the pussy hat photo is more recent.
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The most recent ex is Asian, I think the woman in the vid is white IIRC.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:22:13 PM EDT
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Who is this dumb chubby fucker on Fox News wanting "insane" guns done away with?
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he is the owner of diamond resorts aka time share hustler. he's a douche that owns a bunch of the timeshare properties world wide
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:22:25 PM EDT
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They aren't gonna tell us anything
They will never admit this was for gun control

That note and vid I guarantee referenced trump and guns
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Nm

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I'm beginning to think that he was a rich libtard Fudd that decided to make a statement about how dangerous he believed AR's to be...in an effort to get them banned.

Why else would the guy bother to haul 23 AR platform rifles up to his defilade position when 3 or 4 would have given him back-ups at each window and sufficed for his purposes? 

I'm beginning to think he was trying to illustrate a point that he believed nobody 'needs an evil black bullet hose'. 

The guy knew he could pass the NICS checks, could legally acquire a buttload of AR platform rifles, could equip them with slide-fire stocks, buy large capacity magazines and ammo...and use all his legally bought stuff to kill lots of people. He was trying to prove a point. 

The guy puts me to mind of a lot of the libtard trolls that come to this website to try and push their anti-gun/anti-hunting/anti-2nd Amendment/anti-American rhetoric. 

I really have no way to substantiate my theory, but the more stuff I hear about the circumstances...the less looney it seems to me. I think the guy was trying to get black rifles banninated. 

Maybe his video of the shooting will lend more to the narrative of why this coicksucker did what he did.

YMMV
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Some of you honestly think the killer's goal was to weaken gun rights? That's pretty far fetched. His brother mentioned he had guns during his move to NV several years prior. This guy loved his guns. As distasteful as that sounds it only serves to prove that the 2A was not his target. Furthermore, those that think the killer brought a bumpfire kit as an attempt to get legislation against poor man's mgs are off their rocker, imho.
I'm beginning to think that he was a rich libtard Fudd that decided to make a statement about how dangerous he believed AR's to be...in an effort to get them banned.

Why else would the guy bother to haul 23 AR platform rifles up to his defilade position when 3 or 4 would have given him back-ups at each window and sufficed for his purposes? 

I'm beginning to think he was trying to illustrate a point that he believed nobody 'needs an evil black bullet hose'. 

The guy knew he could pass the NICS checks, could legally acquire a buttload of AR platform rifles, could equip them with slide-fire stocks, buy large capacity magazines and ammo...and use all his legally bought stuff to kill lots of people. He was trying to prove a point. 

The guy puts me to mind of a lot of the libtard trolls that come to this website to try and push their anti-gun/anti-hunting/anti-2nd Amendment/anti-American rhetoric. 

I really have no way to substantiate my theory, but the more stuff I hear about the circumstances...the less looney it seems to me. I think the guy was trying to get black rifles banninated. 

Maybe his video of the shooting will lend more to the narrative of why this coicksucker did what he did.

YMMV
I have the same thought. He wanted to take out a bunch of Trump lovers, using everything "evil" that he could get his hands on as a show of some sort of sick irony.
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That's what I was thinking
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More mags in a suitcase on the left?
That's what I was thinking
I've been eyeballing them for 20 minutes trying to make head or tail of them.

Don't think they're magazines. Too flat in my opinion.  Too long, too, and not quite the right shape.  Or color.  Unless paper-wrapped, but still, not quite the right size.

I'm wondering if it's packages of some kind of plastic explosive.    What does tannerite look like?

ETA - Duh.  It's boxes of ammo.  White boxed, commercial.
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Nice job!
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The screams for gun control have started. But the left needs to accept the fact that there will never be gun control in this country thanks to Obama. When Obama did nothing about the Sandy Hook massacre of children he, ipso facto, became the countries biggest champion of gun rights and the 2A. The left can whine all they want, but Obama made their bed, and now they have to sleep in it.

By this time next week the tragic LV massacre will be all but forgotten by the MSM. The impotent left will go back to doing what they do best, which is obsessing over Trumps tweets, Melania’s shoes and Russia.
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Added to the roll up
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Looks like a fat pen and perhaps a suicide note under the roll of lime green tape.
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Got a picture of the shooter after he ate a round.  Supposedly.

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It's been posted 50 times already.
But it keeps getting funnier... EVERY TIME I SEE IT.... “beetle juice
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Looks like the dude left a note

On the table underneath the ash tray

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I kind of thought that was a roll of green duct tape.
Link Posted: 10/3/2017 4:24:33 PM EDT
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Who is this dumb chubby fucker on Fox News wanting "insane" guns done away with?
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Stephen Cloobeck

In June 2011, donated $100,000 to Majority PAC, a PAC oriented to promoting Democratic candidates to the U.S. Senate. The donation was sent as a check from “JHJM Nevada I, LLC,” which made the source not readily evident.[7]

On 6/3/16, Cloobeck donated $1,000,000 to Priorities USA Action, a pro-Hillary Clinton PAC.

As of January 2017, he plans to run for governor in the state of Nevada and would seed his campaign with $5 million of his own money. He told the Review-Journal he has been conducting polling and is still exploring a bid. However, in April 2017, Cloobeck endorsed incumbent U.S. Senator Dean Heller (R) for re-election.
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#3. is not at all provable. I wouldn't discount the country concert = generally right leaning, but I wouldn't count on it either.
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The most simple scenario is the most likely guys.

1. The video of the pussy hat, NASA shirt wearing guy is pretty convincing even before the “hi Steve” audio is considered.

2. The video of his brother is interesting especially when the political affiliation piece comes up.  The body language changes and he’s being evasive.

3. The target was largely made up of Trump supporters.

4. Point #3 provides the opportunity to inflict massive harm on those that oppose him ideologically.  Bonus for using their beloved second amendment and “assault weapons” against them.  He gets to show what they can do and hopefully divide the right on one of their core issues.  We all know 23+ weapons is excessive and this further fuels the narrative of an Arsenal.  The media will obviously beat this topic to death, after all how could one man amass something so deadly.

5. The media is being suspiciously objective during this and fired one of their own incredibly fast after a rogue tweet.  They’ve fueled decisiveness for months and fear backlash from the public.

6. The feds and local PD want to let things cool off before releasing these details in fear of retaliation.  That’s why they’re slower in this case than they have been in the past.
#3. is not at all provable. I wouldn't discount the country concert = generally right leaning, but I wouldn't count on it either.
As previously posted:  a country/western concert does represent a certain demographic, more so than a mosque, a gay bar, a christian church, a rap concert, etc.

#3 is both highly likely and easily provable.
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Great job! That makes it so much easier to see how everything was staged. 
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Exactly......comparing this to a military action against those who were considered "combatants" at the time, in a location that was not a part of the US (for another 9 years ), is silly.....it's like arguing "suppressor vs silencer" nomenclature with people who have never touched a gun.....just stop
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Christ. Liberals are having a melt down now that they have figured out that Americans can won a FA gun.

Wired however took the derp a step further.


Wired.
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The most recent ex is Asian, I think the woman in the vid is white IIRC.
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The first wife was 27 years ago.  The ex in the pussy hat photo is more recent.
The most recent ex is Asian, I think the woman in the vid is white IIRC.
Was she an Ex? I thought she was just a "roommate"?
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I agree but all you need is a stereotype.  It doesn’t have to be 100% true.
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#3. is not at all provable. I wouldn't discount the country concert = generally right leaning, but I wouldn't count on it either.
I agree but all you need is a stereotype.  It doesn’t have to be 100% true.
Good point:  doesn't have to be provable, only has to be believed by the shooter.
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The screams for gun control have started. But the left needs to accept the fact that there will never be gun control in this country thanks to Obama. When Obama did nothing about the Sandy Hook massacre of children he, ipso facto, became the countries biggest champion of gun rights and the 2A. The left can whine all they want, but Obama made their bed, and now they have to sleep in it.
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At least this event has forced liberals to feign compassion for dead cowboy-hat-wearing, country-music-listenin' white people.
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Stephen Cloobeck

In June 2011, donated $100,000 to Majority PAC, a PAC oriented to promoting Democratic candidates to the U.S. Senate. The donation was sent as a check from “JHJM Nevada I, LLC,” which made the source not readily evident.[7]

On 6/3/16, Cloobeck donated $1,000,000 to Priorities USA Action, a pro-Hillary Clinton PAC.

As of January 2017, he plans to run for governor in the state of Nevada and would seed his campaign with $5 million of his own money. He told the Review-Journal he has been conducting polling and is still exploring a bid. However, in April 2017, Cloobeck endorsed incumbent U.S. Senator Dean Heller (R) for re-election.
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So he was making political moves on fox, now it makes sense
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