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Gun owners have had it pretty good since the 2004 AWB was lifted. We've made a lot of progress on the 2A front, I've even seen my home of Illinois become a CCL state, but today we are one step closer to another AWB and/or registration thanks to the novelty known as the bump stock. He could of modified his gun in an illegal way but he didn't. As of right now, he looks to have not broken any gun laws. Rest assured this one will not be going away. I'm not saying by any stretch that anything should be banned or implying that more gun control is needed but that is that state of affairs for today. View Quote Also unlawful discharge of a firearm x200+ |
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In one of those pics it shows him laying on the floor (presumably already dead) with one of the guns laying across his foot. I thought that was odd. Not sure what to make of it View Quote |
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https://s1.postimg.org/2r9giggcff/1507056207442_A.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/7zhijlzk8b/1507056229879.jpg https://s1.postimg.org/54oudtlvh7/1507056279229.jpg Slightly enhanced photos https://postimg.org/gallery/nvarzu4c/ Seem to be showing up small, never used that service before View Quote |
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I'm wondering how a few posting here feel about box trucks and air planes...
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Do you think that he might have needed a snorkel device to get fresh air?
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Anybody else think that's a pretty odd/peculiar way to set down the guns? Haphazardly. Not pointing with any purpose or looking like that had been used or intended to be used. If one intended or had used them out the windows, you'd think they'd be staged there or discarded there. View Quote |
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I just heard from credible sources that he was in Downtown Las Vegas the week before, trying to get hotel rooms at various hotels. There were no rooms available, so he did not get a room. He was dropping shit loads of money trying to get a comp room, but they didn't have one available. The Life is Beautiful music festival was downtown the week before. He was planning this. This was not a hot headed moment. He knew what he was doing, well in advance.
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View Quote Seems thin to base a rampage on but fuck it lets go with it. |
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Interesting to me in that it lacks specifics. What do they want to happen now? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is not interesting, it's very disturbing "...We believe, as we always have, that there should absolutely be more stringent control on the types of firearms private individuals can own and the processes they must go through in order to own those firearms. There were many factors contributing to this tragic event, but there is no doubt that the shooter’s ability to inflict so many casualties was heavily due to the types of weapons he had access to..." MGV Statement - if you havent seen it Paris has very strick gun laws and yet these attacks happen. Terrorism is an everyday worry there and all across Europe even with their very strick gun laws. It's not the fact that Americans would not accept anything to help keep things like this from happening. But the liberal left and Democratic party do not even recognize the laws already on the books that could save lives already. Second everyone with half a mind knows. That anything the left wants has absolutely nothing to do with protecting people. The liberal democrats primary goal is absolute abolishment of all guns and gun ownership in America. Because they know that is the only way they can truely have absolute power over America and Americans. If they can take away America's means to fight back against a corrupt government. Look at Spain now, Europe and other European countries. The first thing all the government's over there did to keep control of their countries people. Disarm them and take away their ability to fight back. Our founding fathers knew this and put in protections against a fearful and corrupt American government that once it became like Europe's would try to do the exact same thing here. This was a terrorists attack and I don't care what other name it is given. No amount of laws would have stopped it. Ask Paris and other counties that. The liberal Democratic party will use any tragic event to justify their adgenda to wipe away our Constitution and Bill of Rights. They blame guns and never the people the commit these acts. It's as if by simply touching an evil gun you will automatically change into an evil person set on killing innocient people. Yet it seem that all of these killing are not committed by us. The DEPLORABLES as we've been called by the liberal Democratic party. It seems like almost all of these acts have been committed by the liberal Democratic left themselves. The NEWS MEDIA never points that out. That all of these killings are some how linked to them in one way or the other. I'm truely sadden by this event. A lot of good Americans died that night. Yet the left immediately started lumping them into a political web of deceit and lies. Using them as political tools in ad campaigns for gun control and pointing out. How bad we conservative Americans are. Blaming us for this act of terrorism against America instead of the one who did it. Simply because we believe in the CONSTITUTION and BILL of RIGHTS we are evil. No one here has ever hurt anyone. Alot are have served their country in some form or fashion and some still are. Yet according to the comments if the liberal left and even Democratic party members in the Senate and Congress we the DEPLORABLES are to blame for this tragedy. Not the madman that did it. Now according to the left and Democratic party. I'm as well as you and millions of other Americans are deranged psychopaths by default simply for owning X number of guns, ammunition and high capacity mags. Therefore it is just a matter of time before every single person that falls into this category magically transforms into a maniac mass murder. They must act to stop us by whatever means they must do. I must go and worship my black rifles at the alter. They are calling my name. |
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He was apparently a private pilot so probably not scared of heights. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't know how he could have smashed out the glass and stood there looking down 32 stories much less shooting at people for however long. Just the thought of being there makes me want to vomit. My knees would have buckled and I would have had to crawl back to the middle of the room. He had some serious dedication to whatever set him off, that's for sure. But you take away that little barrier and have me one misstep away from a 300 swan dive and it's a whole 'nother story |
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That metallic end piece on the tube, I have seen something like that before but for the life of me it's not at the front of my mind....I'm meaning the metallic piece with blue tube
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All the 'personal normalcy bias theories', of the shooter's mindset/psychology, are ---interesting.
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In one of those pics it shows him laying on the floor (presumably already dead) with one of the guns laying across his foot. I thought that was odd. Not sure what to make of it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anybody else think that's a pretty odd/peculiar way to set down the guns? Haphazardly. Not pointing with any purpose or looking like that had been used or intended to be used. If one intended or had used them out the windows, you'd think they'd be staged there or discarded there. Not sure what to make of it ETA: beat |
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Makes it harder to hate conservatives and push gun control if the problem is extremist left loons making violent political attacks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I think it's clear that they know the motive by now, or at least have information that give them a very good idea. If he was anything other than a muslim or a leftist it would have been out already. My guess is that either they are trying to protect the image of a certain group of people or they are trying to hide what they think may lead to some type of violent backlash against the people he aligned with. |
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I'm beginning to think that he was a rich libtard Fudd that decided to make a statement about how dangerous he believed AR's to be...in an effort to get them banned. Why else would the guy bother to haul 23 AR platform rifles up to his defilade position when 3 or 4 would have given him back-ups at each window and sufficed for his purposes? I'm beginning to think he was trying to illustrate a point that he believed nobody 'needs an evil black bullet hose'. The guy knew he could pass the NICS checks, could legally acquire a buttload of AR platform rifles, could equip them with slide-fire stocks, buy large capacity magazines and ammo...and use all his legally bought stuff to kill lots of people. He was trying to prove a point. The guy puts me to mind of a lot of the libtard trolls that come to this website to try and push their anti-gun/anti-hunting/anti-2nd Amendment/anti-American rhetoric. I really have no way to substantiate my theory, but the more stuff I hear about the circumstances...the less looney it seems to me. I think the guy was trying to get black rifles banninated. Maybe his video of the shooting will lend more to the narrative of why this coicksucker did what he did. YMMV View Quote Truth is here |
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View Quote There's a pink piece of paper under the ashtray in the third pic with the body. Wonder what's on it. What's that blue smurftube? |
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How many were killed in Chicago (one city) last year? Are the guns to blame or the perps? Just trying to put things into perspective. BTW in Europe with all the gun bans did Islamic killers still get AK's for mass shootings? How about box trucks?
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Has this been posted yet? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/175250/IMG_2482_JPG-323572.jpg View Quote Putting tape on the windows before smashing them out does seem to make sense. It looks like he did a lot of planning. Do we know if that's an ashtray? Can you smoke in a suite in Vegas? I know it Atlantic City they stopped allowing smoking in the rooms... thn again I've never stayed in a seriously high end suite before. |
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Maybe he was "watercooling" his slide-fire AR15 barrels with the hose.
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I count 3 rifles with surefire mags, bet the one under him has one too. I doubt he used the DD rifle with scope and bipod.
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Fox says he was a letter carrier (mailman?) and worked for the IRS.
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Wrong, it would work just fine. ETA: not that I think he used that to tape mags together. It is plenty strong though. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The green painter's tape is probably the weakest tape, in terms of shear force, you can buy. You wouldn't use that to tape your mags die hard style. Wouldn't work. Would barely be able to hold a pen on the wall. ETA: not that I think he used that to tape mags together. It is plenty strong though. |
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Looks like possibly a pink note on the end table by his feet
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We don't need the same photos posted on every page. Notrega's summary post is a good place for those.
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FOX NEWS REPORTING NEW INFORMATION
US GOV SOURCE INTERVIEWED RELATIVE OF GF SHOOTER WORKED AS LETTER CARRIER AND FOR THE IRS |
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So why all the weapons? Maybe he wanted to try a bunch of different guns to see their effects or which was better / worst for mowing down people at a distance. Would you get more casualties by spraying long bursts of a small caliber? Or do you end up killing more people by using semi auto fire in a .308? Maybe he brought his whole collection because if he had time he'd switch up weapons just for the hell of it. Shoot people with a 5.56, then switch it up to a .308 if he had the time, then maybe switch to an AK or something if he had one. View Quote |
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How did his leg just happen to slide under the rifle that is on the bi-pod without knocking it over? Weird things happen, but that looks a little staged.
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Fox says he was a letter carrier (mailman?) and worked for the IRS. View Quote |
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People keep trying to assign reason to an unreasonable act. This dude wasnt trained. He was batshit crazy with some money and enough knowledge to be dangerous. Plus we are only getting freeze frames of information with no context or timeline of events. Trying to deduce accurate answers from this stuff right now is just grasping at smoke. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Anybody else think that's a pretty odd/peculiar way to set down the guns? Haphazardly. Not pointing with any purpose or looking like that had been used or intended to be used. If one intended or had used them out the windows, you'd think they'd be staged there or discarded there. This dude wasnt trained. He was batshit crazy with some money and enough knowledge to be dangerous. Plus we are only getting freeze frames of information with no context or timeline of events. Trying to deduce accurate answers from this stuff right now is just grasping at smoke. Those have very specific personality characteristics. Haphazardness isn't one of either of them. I'll give you that he was nuts. And I am not espousing any conspiracy crap. But something is fucky with how those rifles are positioned. I don't see the cops moving them without clearing them, either. |
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