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Posted: 9/17/2009 7:15:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 7:16:27 PM EST by RedDevil556]
What does it get you that a .223, .303 British, .30-06, .308. or 7.62 x 54r won't?

Edit: add the .243 to the list above

I have a bunch of brass that I found at the range and need to justify reloading it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:17:51 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:18:02 PM EST
Deer hunters in South Texas love the stuff, thats all I know about it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:21:45 PM EST
270 is 3006 lite.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:22:41 PM EST
I think the .243 is a varmint round but I'm not sure.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:23:01 PM EST
Ok, so tell me why I need a rifle in .270.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:25:17 PM EST
Flat shooting, mild recoil, and ammunition can be found anywhere.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:27:53 PM EST
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:28:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:
Ok, so tell me why I need a rifle in .270.




Read some of O'Conners work.

You'll want one.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:28:35 PM EST
it gets you a gun you didn't have.

Do you need anything else?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:28:49 PM EST
Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
I think the .243 is a varmint round but I'm not sure.


It's the perfect coyote round.


It'll do a deer proper, too.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:29:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Flat shooting, mild recoil, and ammunition can be found anywhere.



That about cover's it.

If you need any more convincing, google: "Jack O' Connor" and read up
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:29:29 PM EST
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Flat shooting, mild recoil, and ammunition can be found anywhere.



Last I checked, the 270 recoils about the same as the 30-06.


Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:29:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Followthehollow:
it gets you a gun you didn't have.

Do you need anything else?




Tag because I, too am curious about .270.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:31:22 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 7:35:45 PM EST by Winn]

Jack of all trades, master of none.

But don't get me wrong ... I don't "dislike" the .270. It's just that IMO, the .280 should be the more "popular" round.

That said, the .270 is hugely popular in the southeast for white tail deer.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:31:45 PM EST
.270 is an excellent caliber that shoots slightly flatter and faster than the .30-06. A man with a 30-06 doesn't need a .270 by any means, but he may tailor a rifle and load in .270 for a specific purpose, say, long range white tail or antelope hunting, while keeping his 30-06 for mule deer and black bear.

There is so much cross over in the hunting calibers, none of them are necessary in my opinion. But a .270 can be extremely versatile.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:32:53 PM EST

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
I think the .243 is a varmint round but I'm not sure.


It's the perfect coyote round.

I drilled a Coyote with my Howa .270Win with a 90gr Sierra HP at about 20 yards, I was slightly above him and put the bullet through the heart. I got a nice "red mist" out of him as the bullet exited with heart parts/blood all over some rocks.

Devastating is an understatement on that hit!!!
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:34:18 PM EST
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
Originally Posted By Spartanatheart:
I think the .243 is a varmint round but I'm not sure.


It's the perfect coyote round.

I drilled a Coyote with my Howa .270Win with a 90gr Sierra HP at about 20 yards, I was slightly above him and put the bullet through the heart. I got a nice "red mist" out of him as the bullet exited with heart parts/blood all over some rocks.

Devastating is an understatement on that hit!!!


I am intriguied. Tell me more.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:34:52 PM EST
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:
Ok, so tell me why I need a rifle in .270.




Read some of O'Conners work.

You'll want one.



Yeah, he loved the .270 Win, no doubt.

The debate holds that the .270 doesn't do things any better than other rifle calibers, but it's heavier than most and requires a long action. Also, for longer ranges, there are better bullet choices in other than 27 cal. For long range target shooting, bullets in 27 cal lack the BC of other calibers, again, so it's kind of a caliber that gets overshadowed.

Chris

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:35:04 PM EST
In my opinion .270 is one of the supreme do-all calibers for North American game.


I'd not try and take anything larger than an elk with it, but from there on down you are GTG.

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:35:34 PM EST
Are there any military style weapons chambered in .270?

I know there are for the .30/06, and .223, and for that matter just about every caliber I own.

Come to think of it, that's one of the main reasons I'm so resistant to "new" pistol calibers. If they haven't killed a few thousand of America's enemies, I don't need a gun in that chambering.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:36:05 PM EST
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:
Ok, so tell me why I need a rifle in .270.




Read some of O'Conners work.

You'll want one.



Don't read any of O'conner's work...because then you'll want one.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:36:16 PM EST
Accurate
Flat shooting
Low recoil
Lot's of new and used rifles chambered for it.
Factory ammo for the 270 is everywhere.
Very easy to load for. A good 130gr bullet and a case full of H4831SC is all you need.
If you have one gun, the venerable 270 is a good choice. I really like mine.

ZM

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:36:16 PM EST
I moved from MI to AZ last year, all I know is that hunters out here LOVE .270, for every .308 or .30-06 I come across I see at least 5 .270's.Tons of people I have gotten to know out here use their .270's for elk, they swear by it's flat trajectory, range and power.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:37:09 PM EST
The 270 has magnum velocities and trajectory with less kick than a 30-06. It is an outstanding big game cartridge.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:37:16 PM EST
I needed a rifle for Coues Whitetail (little deers down in southern AZ) and was tempted to get a .270 but went for .30-06 instead.
I think the .270 has better range and shoots "flatter" but the ammo is a little scarcer where I live than .30-06 and a little more expensive.
Eventually I'll probably be shooting bear and elk too and I wouldn't feel as confident with the smaller round.
I think .270 is great if you're going to use it for one thing like a varmint rifle or whitetail rifle but it will cost you a little more to practice with and if you want to go after larger game why not just get a .30-06 thats cheaper and more readily available?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:37:53 PM EST
It is the most awesome redneck Mississippi Fudd round that can be found anywhere.Deer Hunters love it.I hate it.Never will own a gun for it.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:38:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By thedoctors308:
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:
Ok, so tell me why I need a rifle in .270.




Read some of O'Conners work.

You'll want one.



Don't read any of O'conner's work...because then you'll want one.


I already want one. I just need to justify the expenditure in my own mind.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:39:39 PM EST
Originally Posted By helmutlent:
It is the most awesome redneck Mississippi Fudd round that can be found anywhere.Deer Hunters love it.I hate it.Never will own a gun for it.


Are you under 25 and do you call a shotgun a "shotty"?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:40:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Winn:

Jack of all trades, master of none.

But don't get me wrong ... I don't "dislike" the .270. It's just that IMO, the .280 should be the more "popular" round.

That said, the .270 is hugely popular in the southeast for white tail deer.


The .280 is a great cartridge too, the .270 just happened to be chambered in production guns decades before it was introduced. I am sure if Winchester would have chambered it back in the 20's instead of the .270, O'Conner would have adopted it and the .280 would be far more popular.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:40:14 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 7:40:41 PM EST by Mountain_Snipe]
.270 shoots real flat. Excellent deer round. The .270 vs .30-06 debate = the 9mm vs .45ACP debate, you really can't go wrong with either. My primary hunting rifle is a 7mm RSAUM, but I also own a .270 and a .30-06. Of the two, I prefer the .270.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:41:08 PM EST

Back when I went deer hunting regularly, the .270 Winchester was my cartridge of choice for hunting the bean fields. Other than the .30-30 for occasional use on foot in the woods, I didn't feel the need to get anything else (rifle-wise) for Whitetails. Both of my scoped deer rifles are in .270 Winchester.

I don't think that the OP would go wrong selecting that caliber. However, unless you need a powerful light rifle for hunting sheep in the mountains, I see no need for the .270 WSSM.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:41:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
In my opinion .270 is one of the supreme do-all calibers for North American game.


I'd not try and take anything larger than an elk with it, but from there on down you are GTG.




This doesn't make sense to me.


And IMO anything 270 can do, 30-06 can do better.

Not saying I don't love the 270 cartridge. But if you only have 1 bolt gun for hunting, it should be a 30-06.

You can go from 90 grain accelerators, to 220 grain round nose.


You can't do that with a 270. (or many others for that matter)


Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:42:00 PM EST

Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
Are there any military style weapons chambered in .270?

I know there are for the .30/06, and .223, and for that matter just about every caliber I own.

Come to think of it, that's one of the main reasons I'm so resistant to "new" pistol calibers. If they haven't killed a few thousand of America's enemies, I don't need a gun in that chambering.

IIRC, there were some FALs chambered in it when tested against the M14 by the Army post WWII. Maybe I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:42:08 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:

Are there any military style weapons chambered in .270?

<snip>



As far as I know, and with respect to U.S. weapons, no.

But the M1 could have been; and IMO should have been ...

Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:42:22 PM EST
Originally Posted By LadyMacBeth:
270 is 3006 lite, fast, and flat.




Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:44:05 PM EST

Originally Posted By RedDevil556:


I already want one. I just need to justify the expenditure in my own mind.

Umm....Remchester, Savage/Stevens, Howa/Weatherby and damn near everyone has a budget priced 270 Winchester bolt gun in their catalog.


Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:46:42 PM EST
Originally Posted By ZekeMenuar:

Originally Posted By RedDevil556:


I already want one. I just need to justify the expenditure in my own mind.

Umm....Remchester, Savage/Stevens, Howa/Weatherby and damn near everyone has a budget priced 270 Winchester bolt gun in their catalog.




But I could also buy a few military surplus guns or a handgun with that money.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:48:19 PM EST
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:But I could also buy a few military surplus guns or a handgun with that money.


To shoot cans with or living things with?
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:49:09 PM EST
Originally Posted By Jenkem:
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:But I could also buy a few military surplus guns or a handgun with that money.


To shoot cans with or living things with?


I do most of my hunting with a Mosin-Nagant.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:51:16 PM EST
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Flat shooting, mild recoil, and ammunition can be found anywhere.



Last I checked, the 270 recoils about the same as the 30-06.




Where did you do your checking? It sure as hell wasn't from shooting them?

I thought for years that a .270 was the ultimate Whitetail cartridge. Until I got a 25-06.

A 270 is still one of the best available.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:51:56 PM EST
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:
Originally Posted By Jenkem:
Originally Posted By RedDevil556:But I could also buy a few military surplus guns or a handgun with that money.


To shoot cans with or living things with?


I do most of my hunting with a Mosin-Nagant.




Well there"s your reason to buy a 270!!!


Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:53:00 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 7:56:40 PM EST by GUNSFORHIRE]
I know when the ammo scare first started that .270 was the ONLY rifle round I could find and it was
everywhere..

.270 is a flat shooting round and some call it .30-06 lite..

I have owned several .270 rifles and they were always accurate shooters ..

The 7400 Remington is an awesome little rifle and they do have 10 and 20 round mags
available if you can find them.

I also have seen this rifle "tapco'd" out on Calguns and it really looked good
as it could get for a CA EBR..

eta..

I would give an arm and a leg for a quality .270 upper for an AR10..That would be awesome!
But the case is too long for the Ar10 mag well because it is based on the 30-06 case..
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:53:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By krpind:
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:
Originally Posted By eodtech2000:
Flat shooting, mild recoil, and ammunition can be found anywhere.



Last I checked, the 270 recoils about the same as the 30-06.




Where did you do your checking? It sure as hell wasn't from shooting them?

I thought for years that a .270 was the ultimate Whitetail cartridge. Until I got a 25-06.

A 270 is still one of the best available.




It was actually.

I shoot both on a relatively regular basis. With stout handloads out of each, there's a difference, but it aint much.


Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:55:44 PM EST
Lots of people kill elk with those around these parts.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:57:08 PM EST
used to not like it. was a 30-06 person.


got two .270s in a short time, one pre-64 model 70 winchester, and a remington BDL

AWESOME caliber. shoots flat, will take down big game, lighter recoil than an '06.


my wife and kids can shoot it well etc.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 7:57:20 PM EST
Originally Posted By Bloencustoms:
Are there any military style weapons chambered in .270?

I know there are for the .30/06, and .223, and for that matter just about every caliber I own.

Come to think of it, that's one of the main reasons I'm so resistant to "new" pistol calibers. If they haven't killed a few thousand of America's enemies, I don't need a gun in that chambering.


M1 Rifle was to be chambered in a .276 caliber.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 8:04:27 PM EST
Originally Posted By GUNSFORHIRE:
I know when the ammo scare first started that .270 was the ONLY rifle round I could find and it was
everywhere..

.270 is a flat shooting round and some call it .30-06 lite..

I have owned several .270 rifles and they were always accurate shooters ..

The 7400 Remington is an awesome little rifle and they do have 10 and 20 round mags
available if you can find them.

I also have seen this rifle "tapco'd" out on Calguns and it really looked good
as it could get for a CA EBR..

eta..

I would give an arm and a leg for a quality .270 upper for an AR10..That would be awesome!
But the case is too long for the Ar10 mag well because it is based on the 30-06 case..


GUNSFORHIRE, I respect your opinion in most cases, but I have to disagree on one point. The Remington auto rifles are NOT awesome in any sense of the word. They are good for 10-20 rounds per year for 10-20 years and that's it. They are impossible to clean or maintain, and wear themselves out no matter what you do. They are one of (and there are a lot) the worst firearms Remington has ever put out. I will never understand their popularity.

In a given gunsmith shop in northern MN, come late October, 3 out of 5 guns in for any kind of work are Remington 740s, 742s, Fours, and 7400s, with "jamming problems."

The 760 series, on the other hand, are great.

As for .270 Win., I love it. No good reason, I suppose –– in terms of hunting, the 30-06 and .308 and etc. etc. etc. do the same job, differently, but it is an accurate and deadly cartridge. It is easy to reload and kills North American game dead.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 8:15:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 9/17/2009 8:29:16 PM EST by MonkTx]
Originally Posted By the_ak_kid:

It was actually.

I shoot both on a relatively regular basis. With stout handloads out of each, there's a difference, but it aint much.




I always have a good chuckle when someone claims one cartridge has less recoil than another when they push the same weight bullet at the same velocity.
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 8:51:06 PM EST
My uncle owned a 270 WIN and that's where I got introduced to that cartridge. 130 grn slugs were great for dear and 110 grn were great for yotes and ground hogs. I owned one for a number of years and loved it. Shoots flat, less recoil than 06, and ammo is readily available almost everywhere. If I lived somewhere where I could hunt I would definitely have another one along with a Win 94 30-30 for a brush gun!!!
Link Posted: 9/17/2009 9:44:48 PM EST
Originally Posted By mtechgunman:
In my opinion .270 is one of the supreme do-all calibers for North American game.


I'd not try and take anything larger than an elk with it, but from there on down you are GTG.



Moose are actually easier to kill than elk, or so I am told. I've killed moose only, and it wasn't hard.
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