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Posted: 11/18/2011 4:21:19 PM EDT
Kinda long but worth a look if you are planning a flight.I took a trip to Europe last week. TSA is a bunch of incompetent morons. I flew out of Buffalo, NY. I lined up and was directed into the body scanner. I got the all clear from the woman running it and as I walked away I was stopped by a male TSA agent for a pat down. WTF? I sure couldn’t have put a bomb in my shorts in the 10 seconds between 1st & 2nd screening. I’m just an average clean cut man. I don’t stick out in a crowd. After my new special friend touched me we had to wait several minutes without shoes or my belt while they ran my carry on bag through the screening machine twice. A young TSA agent walked up and gave me my bag & asked why I was taking full size bar of soap. Another WTF moment. I guess they think I’m not allowed to import soap to Europe & have to use the small hotel size bars.

I finally got through and was treated very well in Munich when I landed. I was through security and waiting for my next plane in minutes. I only sent my bag & shoes through the scanner and was allowed to go on. It was great to fly out of Poland. I was through the security checkpoint quickly and had both bags searched while I watched. Very nice people working there and they took care to repack everything the way I had it.

The fun started again when I landed in Boston. I went through the 1st security check fine. While I walked to find my connecting flight I was stopped by 4 armed agents and had my passport and ID checked for the 2nd time in 2 minutes. After I was found not to be a national security threat I was allowed to go to a miserable prick at a desk trying to figure out if I owed any money for bringing back some gifts for my parents and son. After all this I make it back to Buffalo and then home.

This is the best part – I had a TSA card in my bag that it was selected for screening. During my baggage check in Boston everything that was fragile was taken out of the bubble wrap and tossed in a pile in the center of my suitcase. My gift wrapped bottle of booze was opened and the box ripped and bent. The mug I bought in Krackow with Wawel the dragon on it was smashed and most of the pieces were put back into the box. Some pieces were missing so I know it was done outside of my luggage. My fully cooked ready to eat sausage I brought back from Krackow was gone. And finally two of my favorite shirts were stolen. I had the glass mugs I bought wrapped up in them. Inside the Boston airport I don’t think I saw one worker who had English as a first language. I sent a complaint to TSA and got an email back saying too bad and they would do nothing for me. They also said if they get continued complaints in an area they would consider more training or a review there. Fuck you TSA I want my shirts and broken shit replaced. I’m filling out forms tonight to fax in about the bullshit. Fuck you again TSA. Next time I fly I’ll drive into Canada & go from there.

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:24:50 PM EDT
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:26:28 PM EDT
I hear you brother.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:27:32 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


Unpossible- republicans hate big government and bureaucracy. I know this cuz I read it on Arfcom.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:28:15 PM EDT
Who can I thank for doing something to stop this bullshit?
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:34:30 PM EDT

Originally Posted By The_Reaper:
Who can I thank for doing something to stop this bullshit?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Mica


Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:36:30 PM EDT
I'm convinced that the TSA is a jobs program for retards.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:39:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 4:39:53 PM EDT by Umbra]
Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:
Kinda long but worth a look if you are planning a flight.I took a trip to Europe last week. TSA is a bunch of incompetent morons. I flew out of Buffalo, NY. I ...[snip] Next time I fly I’ll drive into Canada & go from there.



I like the German airport security guards. I flew back to the states out of Frankfurt and had three liters of booze in my carry on bag. The screener stopped me and instructed me to open my bag, he pulled the bottles out and waived his finger like it was a no-no. I looked at him and said "But it's a nine hour flight". He laughed and put the bottles back in my bag and said enjoy.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:39:59 PM EDT
As does border control.

I just got back from London - first I sat on a BA plane at heathrow for 2.5hr, until they took us back to the terminal for another 2 hr, then got on another plane. So, land at 0030. I get to border control and for some reason, with one carry on get sent to customs - two people working customs for 10 people. I have one carry on, there are a bunch of Hispanics with about 10 bags each. I stood there for 40 minutes before one of the customs agents called me ahead and asked my why i was in line

took my passport and i guess i had a bad name collision, ugh.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:40:47 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HogJaws:
I'm convinced that the TSA is a jobs program for retards.

Thats an insult to retards, even they would do an outstanding job compared to the current knuckle draggers that work there.



Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:42:53 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


WRONG! It was the Democrats in Congress that Pushed for the TSA. Bush was opposed to it up to the point that he could not stop it.











Impeach Obama for the Good of the Elderly.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:46:14 PM EDT
I blame Obama.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:47:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 4:47:55 PM EDT by h3smith]
Originally Posted By gunham:
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


WRONG! It was the Democrats in Congress that Pushed for the TSA. Bush was opposed to it up to the point that he could not stop it.











Impeach Obama for the Good of the Elderly.


thats rich

Yes, the minority party in both houses, didn't hold the white house - created the TSA all on its own

hilarious
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:48:42 PM EDT
You aren't allowed to bring sausage from overseas.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:51:00 PM EDT
I got a better one:so I was headed home from Minneapolis to Dallas, after a trip to the boundary waters wilderness. I had been carrying a 357 mag revolver and had accidentally left a ziploc bag in my back pocket with 6 357 magnum rounds in it.

So I get directed into the full body scanner and after I get waved through I decide to go get a beer a the Chili's inside the airport in Minneapolis. I take a seat at the bar, and am like what's this lumpy thing in my back pocket.

Yep you guessed it, 6 357 mag rounds just went straight through your scanner. Fucking waste of taxpayer dollars.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:52:26 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ODA_564:
You aren't allowed to bring sausage from overseas.
Or any fresh meats that aren't in cans.
BTDT



Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:52:37 PM EDT

Without TSA unemployment among assholes would be at an all time high.

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:52:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 4:54:24 PM EDT by Fullpower]
An isolated incident.
The important thing is that agents involved made it home safely.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:55:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 4:58:57 PM EDT by stockshift]
Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:
My gift wrapped bottle of booze was opened and the box ripped and bent.


TSA seems to like to search booze, even on domestic flights.








Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:
My fully cooked ready to eat sausage I brought back from Krackow was gone.



Not putting blame on you, but you cannot import meat products into the United States from foreign countries. I learned this, the "hard way", when I declared a packet of Mr. Porky's Pork Scratchings that I brought back to PHL from LHR. You're lucky you didn't get the full Monty for trying to sneak it back into the US via checked baggage.



Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:55:33 PM EDT
As I have mentioned in many threads regarding TSA, They have had many audits, as to their ineffectiveness and lack of professionalism. We are not talking minor infractions either, we are talking all sorts of mock weapons, as well as real sometimes, if I was with a client or just did not give a shit. But alas, I was generally paid my fees (which were high due to the risk) by the airlines themselves, or the individual airports management. If someone wants to defeat their system, there is little stopping of a half-way intelligent perpetrator.

I am sorry OP, that you had a bad experience, hopefully better luck next time, but the odds are against you.

This will conclude my post in this episode of "TSA Sucks"

-PC-
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 4:57:05 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HogJaws:
I'm convinced that the TSA is a jobs program for retards.


Might be spot on
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:00:33 PM EDT
Originally Posted By h3smith:
Originally Posted By gunham:
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


WRONG! It was the Democrats in Congress that Pushed for the TSA. Bush was opposed to it up to the point that he could not stop it.











Impeach Obama for the Good of the Elderly.


thats rich

Yes, the minority party in both houses, didn't hold the white house - created the TSA all on its own

hilarious


You don't seem to have a Very good Memory. The Dems keep pushing "You Don't Professionalize Unless You Federalize" until the Public wanted it. And it has Ted Kennedy's smelly hands all over the TSA.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:03:04 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


Congress had to pass it so GWB could sign it. Thank Congress before GWB.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:04:21 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BigJon314:
I got a better one:so I was headed home from Minneapolis to Dallas, after a trip to the boundary waters wilderness. I had been carrying a 357 mag revolver and had accidentally left a ziploc bag in my back pocket with 6 357 magnum rounds in it.

So I get directed into the full body scanner and after I get waved through I decide to go get a beer a the Chili's inside the airport in Minneapolis. I take a seat at the bar, and am like what's this lumpy thing in my back pocket.

Yep you guessed it, 6 357 mag rounds just went straight through your scanner. Fucking waste of taxpayer dollars.

Similar experience in Buffalo. I was going through TSA and the screener got very interested in something in my ballistic nylon briefcase, He calls over another one for a conference, then asks me, "What is this, sir?" I reached in and pulled out a Fenix flashlight and turned it on for them to see.They handed it back to me and off I went.

I then headed for a seat, and sat down to read a paperback. I reached into the bag for my reading glasses and scooped up a 9mm round, which I inconspicuously tossed into the trash.

My opinion is that on 09/10/01, there were lines all over America filled with applicants for grocery sackers and car wash employees. The following day changed everything, and many of those people were then hired to become America's first line of defense against terrorism in the skies.

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:14:12 PM EDT
The TSA is a security theater ...... all show no substance. The TSA has stopped zero terror attacks so far at airports so far and cost millions to do so.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:24:36 PM EDT
But they took my nail clippers.....I know for a fact they made us all safer.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:39:15 PM EDT
Originally Posted By gunham:
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


WRONG! It was the Democrats in Congress that Pushed for the TSA. Bush was opposed to it up to the point that he could not stop it.


Yeah, they "pushed for it", but he signed the bill into law.

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:45:10 PM EDT
The one on the left is an actual tsa agent. She enjoys being cuffed and frisked.

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:45:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Texas_Sig:
You can thank George Bush for the TSA.


Why? Is he now training TSA agents? Damn the economy really has gotten bad.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:47:52 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BigJon314:
I got a better one:so I was headed home from Minneapolis to Dallas, after a trip to the boundary waters wilderness. I had been carrying a 357 mag revolver and had accidentally left a ziploc bag in my back pocket with 6 357 magnum rounds in it.

So I get directed into the full body scanner and after I get waved through I decide to go get a beer a the Chili's inside the airport in Minneapolis. I take a seat at the bar, and am like what's this lumpy thing in my back pocket.

Yep you guessed it, 6 357 mag rounds just went straight through your scanner. Fucking waste of taxpayer dollars.


I made it through TSA 3x and a 3.5" blade folding knife was found on the 4th time (it had been in my carry on bag the entire time).
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:49:46 PM EDT
Originally Posted By HogJaws:
I'm convinced that the TSA is a jobs program for ESL students on expired Visas.


Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:53:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 3:20:09 AM EDT by VACaver]
Being allowed to have my parachute riggers kit in my carryon convinced me of how fucking stupid the whole TSA program is.

Being "tools", I can bring:

A six-inch long tacking needle...that, if I was so inclined, I could jam in your ear and scramble your brain.

Two six-inch long temporary pins...again, nice, sharp objects that could be deadly.

Scissors with four inch blades. You can't bring a pocket knife because it has a blade, but I can bring scissors...which, easily taken apart, become two blades.

Idiots...

Link Posted: 11/18/2011 5:58:54 PM EDT
Well Janet Napolitano, Secretary of Homeland Security, does have a stake in the company that manufactures the body scanners if that tells you anything. Even Europe isn't as 1984 as we are.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:12:10 PM EDT
Had to fly a few months ago, got thru the scanner when a TSA agent came over and ask me if the keys and watch in the container were mine, I said yes, she then told me they had to send them thru the x-ray again........she came back and gave them to me and said they x-rayed OK. Got on the plane and sitting next to me was an elderly lady knittting something and had two 10" long metal knitting needles..........I ask her if TSA had given her a hard time about them and she said no, that they were in her knitting bag she sent thru the x-ray machine............go figure..
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:15:33 PM EDT


I suggest you subtract your damages from your next tax return, I'm sure the IRS will understand!


Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:37:03 PM EDT
You're not allowed to bring uncanned, non-commercially processed meats back from Europe. Be thankful they didn't get a CBP Ag Specialist to fine you.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:49:03 PM EDT
I got through DFW with snap caps in my carry on. However EVERY friggin time I fly, they make it a point to search my ball cap ( Don't tread on me on the hat). Honest it took 2 people to search it one time.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:50:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 6:58:18 PM EDT
Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:

This is the best part – I had a TSA card in my bag that it was selected for screening. During my baggage check in Boston everything that was fragile was taken out of the bubble wrap and tossed in a pile in the center of my suitcase. My gift wrapped bottle of booze was opened and the box ripped and bent. The mug I bought in Krackow with Wawel the dragon on it was smashed and most of the pieces were put back into the box. Some pieces were missing so I know it was done outside of my luggage. My fully cooked ready to eat sausage I brought back from Krackow was gone. And finally two of my favorite shirts were stolen. I had the glass mugs I bought wrapped up in them. Inside the Boston airport I don’t think I saw one worker who had English as a first language. I sent a complaint to TSA and got an email back saying too bad and they would do nothing for me. They also said if they get continued complaints in an area they would consider more training or a review there. Fuck you TSA I want my shirts and broken shit replaced. I’m filling out forms tonight to fax in about the bullshit. Fuck you again TSA. Next time I fly I’ll drive into Canada & go from there.



Meh that's nothing. You should try forgetting an apple in your carry-on...I didn't walk right for a week after that little incident.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 7:12:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By raysheen:
Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:

This is the best part – I had a TSA card in my bag that it was selected for screening. During my baggage check in Boston everything that was fragile was taken out of the bubble wrap and tossed in a pile in the center of my suitcase. My gift wrapped bottle of booze was opened and the box ripped and bent. The mug I bought in Krackow with Wawel the dragon on it was smashed and most of the pieces were put back into the box. Some pieces were missing so I know it was done outside of my luggage. My fully cooked ready to eat sausage I brought back from Krackow was gone. And finally two of my favorite shirts were stolen. I had the glass mugs I bought wrapped up in them. Inside the Boston airport I don’t think I saw one worker who had English as a first language. I sent a complaint to TSA and got an email back saying too bad and they would do nothing for me. They also said if they get continued complaints in an area they would consider more training or a review there. Fuck you TSA I want my shirts and broken shit replaced. I’m filling out forms tonight to fax in about the bullshit. Fuck you again TSA. Next time I fly I’ll drive into Canada & go from there.



Meh that's nothing. You should try forgetting an apple in your carry-on...I didn't walk right for a week after that little incident.

You actually cost the taxpayers a shitload of money because it has to be destroyed by a contractor. Agriculture pests could literally destroy our crops and cost shitloads of money to try to eradicate. If I remember correctly, the Asian Longhorn Beetle is costing taxpayers over 80 MILLION a year to try to eradicate. It came over on a commercial flight to Chicago, IIRC.

Agriculture pests are no joke.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 10:25:39 PM EDT
I fly out of Buffalo when I go home on leave. I used to take my long guns to and from WA. You get some looks when they ask you to take out a AK and 590A1 at the ticket counter to make sure its unloaded.



Link Posted: 11/18/2011 11:15:42 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ODA_564:
You aren't allowed to bring sausage from overseas.


you are allowed to bring sausages back from over seas, just from New zealand and australlia, everybody else is a no go. as for canned meats you can't bring in any beef from europe, most of asia. canned chicken duck, bird is also a no go. 80 million a year for one bug, 200 million plus last time newcastle broke out. and the agency taking your food is NOT TSA it is USDA/Customs. you saying that TSA took your food is like saying bitching to the cable company that your electricity is out.
Link Posted: 11/18/2011 11:17:47 PM EDT


Did you moo? I find that they really hate it when you moo while waiting in line.

If you practice, you can do it without them even being able to figure out where it's coming from. It helps if you look around like you're trying to figure out who is doing it as well.


Link Posted: 11/18/2011 11:37:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/18/2011 11:43:44 PM EDT by justice2576]
TSA = not agents!

Thanks USDA for the job they do people bring things in that can ruin our farms and agriculture.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 12:15:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By pa_ridgerunner:

I finally got through and was treated very well in Munich when I landed. I was through security and waiting for my next plane in minutes. I only sent my bag & shoes through the scanner and was allowed to go on. It was great to fly out of Poland. I was through the security checkpoint quickly and had both bags searched while I watched. Very nice people working there and they took care to repack everything the way I had it.

Munich security is GTG. Frankfurt security could be the laziest, slowest bunch of motherfuckers in the entire country.

Conclusion: Munich was the right choice.
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 12:31:24 AM EDT
Originally Posted By Mech2007:


Did you moo? I find that they really hate it when you moo while waiting in line.

If you practice, you can do it without them even being able to figure out where it's coming from. It helps if you look around like you're trying to figure out who is doing it as well.




Yes... Moo'ing tends to piss them off
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 12:41:23 AM EDT
I once accidentally flew with my Benchmade 710 in my pocket. Another time I had some brass and a Kershaw Leek in my carry on back pack I didn't know about that got through....even though the lady in front of me had her bag torn through to have a nail file and a disposable razor taken away

I guess the last time I flew made up for it though, I had an "Army Strong" t-shirt on with shorts and flip flops but I got selected for the random security check, later on I was asked to let an agent look through my backpack while walking to the gate and then was asked to be wanded with another bag search before boarding the plane

My faith in TSA is maxing out around 0
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 1:28:58 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 2:37:07 PM EDT
Originally Posted By bblake00:
Originally Posted By Mech2007:


Did you moo? I find that they really hate it when you moo while waiting in line.

If you practice, you can do it without them even being able to figure out where it's coming from. It helps if you look around like you're trying to figure out who is doing it as well.




Yes... Moo'ing tends to piss them off


Or flicking the bird with both hands while in the scanner...ask me how I know
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 2:50:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/19/2011 3:52:09 PM EDT by Chris_C]
I have a few problems with the OP's first post...anyone want to take a stab at what they might be?

ETA:

45FMJoe can't play
Link Posted: 11/19/2011 2:51:30 PM EDT
Exactly why I no longer fly
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