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Posted: 10/1/2004 6:06:19 PM EST
Just curious if anyone uses one of these. Sound off if you have one - and have an opinion about it. I'm assuming they must be legal at least somewhere in the USA. They aren't in Wiscnsin :(



Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:07:22 PM EST

Originally Posted By lazyengineer:
Just curious if anyone uses one of these. Sound off if you have one - and have an opinion about it. I'm assuming they must be legal at least somewhere in the USA. They aren't in Wiscnsin :(






I have one about 40 years old, made in Italy. Very nice.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:10:49 PM EST
Perfectly legal in Florida. Lots of auto knives on the market, some are good quality others are cheap crap.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:12:00 PM EST
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:12:20 PM EST
Torque assisted or good flippers are pretty damned fast.


I would have one anyway, if I were allowed here in my part of AmeriKa
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:13:12 PM EST
I have a Benchmade 5000SBT Presidio Auto Axis. I am active duty military and we are allowed to have them.



Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:13:49 PM EST
They're legal in the the PRK(aka Kali-fornia), but the blade lenght must be not be more than 2"
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:14:42 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:14:45 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:24:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 6:24:57 PM EST by fight4yourrights]

Originally Posted By brasspile:

After carrying for years, I cannot grasp the concept of using two hands to get an exposed edge. If they are banned, I will go with a fixed blade in a sheath.




Who does? My CRKT's, Kershaws and Benchmades are all single handed operations.


None of them are autos.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:27:26 PM EST
Paragon ATKO8 OTF
Microtech L-UDT, LCC, ATCF
Buck 110 auto
S&W EXOPS
and a Protech Godfather on the way....
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 6:35:32 PM EST

Originally Posted By TennVol:
I have a Benchmade 5000SBT Presidio Auto Axis. I am active duty military and we are allowed to have them.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/Bench.jpg




A cool knife and a Hot Wife. Sounds like you're making out at every turn
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:04:23 PM EST
Buck 112 Auto
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:14:59 PM EST

Originally Posted By CAPITALIST:

Originally Posted By TennVol:
I have a Benchmade 5000SBT Presidio Auto Axis. I am active duty military and we are allowed to have them.

img.photobucket.com/albums/v366/TennVol/Bench.jpg




A cool knife and a Hot Wife. Sounds like you're making out at every turn



Thanks.

You have an excellent memory!
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:26:43 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 7:28:09 PM EST by JSteensen]

Originally Posted By warlord:
They're legal in the the PRK(aka Kali-fornia), but the blade lenght must be not be more than 2"



No..its 2 or more inches, and it must be manufactured within the state of California. If it is shipped from over state lines it is illegal. Of course, exceptions for active duty military and LEOs.

There is a small market for CA legal autos, with most starting in the 50 dollar range. (for a 1.9" blade....)

John

Ill stick to my Benchmade Skirmish for EDC, 4.5 inches that you can open just as fast as a switchblade. Two words: Brownie Pop.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:27:58 PM EST
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:38:26 PM EST
I second the "one hand non-auto".

Switches are cool, but even though I can own one in IL (sworn FF/Medic), the thought of losing a $100+ knife v. a $45 one makes me cringe.

BTW? - Buck Crosslock w/ the serrated sheepsfoot blade.
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 7:55:07 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 7:55:41 PM EST by geegee]
They're also legal in Oregon (home of Benchmade Knives). Aside from the extrem"cool/gadget factor," it's hard to build a great case to own one. Most tactical folders these days can be opened just about as fast with a little practice, and there are fewer internal parts that could fail when it really counts. That said, would I own one in Texas if they were legal? Heck yeah!
Link Posted: 10/1/2004 8:07:04 PM EST
I love autos,
primarily i carry a Gerber/Emerson auto.
ive got a BM AFO 9050, S&W 1250, Colt M16 auto, and my 2 fav Mikov autos, one with a sambar handle, and another one of a kind mikov with antique European Wapiti (smooth) handle, both the Mikovs have damascus blades.
I like an auto because it opens fast, one handed every time. it takes less dexterity, and less fine motor skill than trying to open a non-auto in a high stress situation IMHO. plus they are fun to have.

Link Posted: 10/1/2004 9:13:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/1/2004 9:15:01 PM EST by FLAL1A]
I have one nice one (Atko, iirc; it's in my desk drawer at the office), and I've bought a few cheap ones to give away as novelty gifts.


Originally Posted By CS223:
Perfectly legal in Florida. Lots of auto knives on the market, some are good quality others are cheap crap.



Yup, absolutely. But:

1. Remember, if it's big enough, it may qualify as a "weapon" for CCW analysis. The CCW statute and the case law talk about "common pocket knives" as non-weapons. If an annoyed policeman decided that your automatic was a "weapon," and you had no CHL, you'd probably have to stand trial, since the average Joe probably wouldn't think of an auto as a "common pocket knife."

2. At the gunshow last week some shithead had a table full of S&W knives (seemed pretty nice for the price), including some switchblades of which Gomer said [wink, wink, nod, nod] "These here ain;t exactly legal, but I'm selling the hell out of 'em till somebody arrests me."



eta: After looking at another post, my auto is a Paragon. I guess ATKO is part of the model number. Has a hell of a spring on it.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 6:14:28 AM EST

Originally Posted By StonerStudent:
and a Protech Godfather on the way....





I have this one. It will be your favorite auto. Which configuration did you get?

AB
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 6:16:27 AM EST

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 6:18:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!



BTW, it's only legal to carry here if you have a CCW. It is considered a weapon and concealing it is a no-no.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 6:46:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By albob:

Originally Posted By StonerStudent:
and a Protech Godfather on the way....





I have this one. It will be your favorite auto. Which configuration did you get?

AB



The Tactical model with solid black handle, I really liked the Jazz model a friend has but was short on cash when he placed the order.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 7:08:56 AM EST
The "new" D/A autos are pretty cool,you get to have the best of both manual and auto knife. You can use it as a manual knife for every day carry and the auto release for playing around. You would have to get a knife cop for them to fiqure out the bolster release [on the LCC and ATCF anyway] which hopefully would mean if you where not being a asshole to start with the cop wouldn't jack you up for carrying a "switchblade".
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 7:59:58 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 8:01:59 AM EST by ardave]
I'm thinking of one of these Frank Beltrame's that are from Italy:

http://www.italianstiletto.com/home.html

A classic looking automatic knife. I have been told by people who sell them they are legal to buy and "collect" in OH but are illegal to carry. Hence at home use only. I have not verified this for myself.

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 8:12:43 AM EST

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!



BTW, it's only legal to carry here if you have a CCW. It is considered a weapon and concealing it is a no-no.


Pocket clip.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 8:16:01 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 8:56:33 AM EST

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!



BTW, it's only legal to carry here if you have a CCW. It is considered a weapon and concealing it is a no-no.





Cite your source, man!

I have a BenchMade Mel Pardue auto. Yay!
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:56:10 AM EST
Benchmade Reflex here.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 12:19:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 12:26:07 PM EST by AZ-K9]

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!



BTW, it's only legal to carry here if you have a CCW. It is considered a weapon and concealing it is a no-no.





Cite your source, man!

I have a BenchMade Mel Pardue auto. Yay!


State law specifically excludes "pocket knives" from the concealed weapon statute. I dunno what he's talking of.

ARS 13-3102. Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions

A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:

1. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 except a pocket knife concealed on his person


I guess it could be confused that an auto knife is a "deadly weapon", aside from a pocket knife, but I've never seen it done. There is also a "standard" of 4 inch blades, but I have never seen it written anywhere, so till then, it isn't law.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:06:30 PM EST
Benchmade make a quality auto. I haven't had a chance to handle a microtech, yet. Here in VT you can have an auto if the blade is less that 3 inches.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:10:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By AZ-K9:

Originally Posted By napalm:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By slash-5:

Originally Posted By Zionist:
MICROTECH SOCOM ELITE

Gotta Love Arizona Laws....Yes ,it's legal to carry here!!!



+1 on both counts.

Microtech is the absolute best.


WE NEED A POLL!



BTW, it's only legal to carry here if you have a CCW. It is considered a weapon and concealing it is a no-no.





Cite your source, man!

I have a BenchMade Mel Pardue auto. Yay!


State law specifically excludes "pocket knives" from the concealed weapon statute. I dunno what he's talking of.

ARS 13-3102. Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions

A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:

1. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 except a pocket knife concealed on his person


I guess it could be confused that an auto knife is a "deadly weapon", aside from a pocket knife, but I've never seen it done. There is also a "standard" of 4 inch blades, but I have never seen it written anywhere, so till then, it isn't law.




+1


Arizona Revised Statute 13-3101

13-3101. Definitions

A. In this chapter, unless the context otherwise requires:

1. "Deadly weapon" means anything that is designed for lethal use. The term includes a firearm.

......



Arizona Revised Statute 13-3102

13-3102. Misconduct involving weapons; defenses; classification; definitions

A. A person commits misconduct involving weapons by knowingly:

1. Carrying a deadly weapon without a permit pursuant to section 13-3112 except a pocket knife concealed on his person

.......


No idea WTF he's talking about.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:33:08 PM EST
From LoginName's link:

___________________________________________
Pennsylvania - Pa. C.S.A. 18.908. Prohibited offensive
weapons. (a) Offense defined.--A person commits a
misdemeanor of the first degree if, except as authorized
by law, he makes, repairs, sells, or otherwise deals in,
uses, or possesses any offensive weapon. (b) Exception.--
It is a defense under this section for the defendant to
prove by a preponderance of evidence that he possessed of
dealt with the weapon solely as a curio or in a dramatic
performance
, or that he possessed it briefly in
consequence of having found it or taken it from an
aggressor, or under circumstances similarly negativing any
intent or likelihood that the would be used unlawfully.
(c) Definition.--As used in this section "offensive
weapon" means... any... dagger, knife, razor or cutting
instrument, the blade of which is exposed in an automatic
way by switch, push-button, spring mechanism, or
otherwise...

__________________________________________

Possesing the weapon solely as a curio? Does that mean one can own one but never take it out of the house? Is this a collector exception?
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:43:43 PM EST


Any good web sites where you can view/review and purchase an auto knife?

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:45:34 PM EST
I have a couple Benchmade and MicroTech autos. Enjoy the wow factor, but carry my Emerson CQC7 most of the time.

My coworker had his MicroTech fold up on him during use once, and I carry saltwater fishing/boating. I do not need to have to worry about sand or salt causing a problem with my knife.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 2:02:04 PM EST
Well, in IN, you can carry a CIII weapon if you have a Personal Protection Permit, but no auto knives allowed. AFAIK, there is also NO provision for military and law enforcement, Air NG pilots can't even use issued parachute knives?
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 3:34:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 3:35:46 PM EST by EseLoco918]
I have one that was my granddads. It was bought sometime in the 50's. It barely works but looks in decent shape. It just sits in a safe place for memories.


For a carry knife I have a SOG Flash II...it's not technically a switchblade, but it has spring assisted opening.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 3:48:27 PM EST
Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;



What is a common carrier??
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:02:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By CRC:
Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;



What is a common carrier??



Carrier-for-hire; UPS, Fedex, DHL, freight company, et c.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:32:41 PM EST

Originally Posted By FLAL1A:

Originally Posted By CRC:
Sections 1242 and 1243 of this title shall not apply to -
(1) any common carrier or contract carrier, with respect to any
switchblade knife shipped, transported, or delivered for shipment
in interstate commerce in the ordinary course of business;



What is a common carrier??



Carrier-for-hire; UPS, Fedex, DHL, freight company, et c.



I think all that means is that "common carriers" can't be held leagally liable or charged for shipping or transporting verbooten knives.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 4:51:49 PM EST

Originally Posted By MJFRacing:

Any good web sites where you can view/review and purchase an auto knife?




http://videoknife.com/qt.html
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:52:25 AM EST
I have two that sit in my safe. It's not legal to carry here in VA, except police, EMS and active duty military. Plus they cost so much I don't want to lose/break them. One is a Masters Of Defense (MOD) "Trident" and a Benchmade 5500? I can't remember. I love the MOD, way better than the Benchmade. When I was in the Navy I carried my MOD whenever we had any evolution that might require a quick, strong, sharp knife. Now I leave them in the safe to show the kid when he get's older like my dad did with his old Italian stilleto.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:40:46 AM EST


Perhaps not as good as the others but they do look classic.
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:44:12 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 7:48:05 AM EST by redfisher]


Benchmade 9050 AFO
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:45:39 AM EST

Originally Posted By MJFRacing:

Any good web sites where you can view/review and purchase an auto knife?





Right Here!
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 7:47:41 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 7:48:12 AM EST by Feedingcannibal]

Originally Posted By MJFRacing:

Any good web sites where you can view/review and purchase an auto knife?




PV Knife
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:08:17 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 8:08:52 AM EST by DaTrueDave]
For anyone that wants a good, fast knife, but can't legally own (or afford) an auto, I HIGHLY recommend trying out a Kershaw knife with their SpeedSafe assisted opening! You can get a Blackout at WalMart for $50

http://www.kershawknives.com/knivesTools/images/blackout.jpg
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 8:35:35 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:09:30 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/3/2004 5:10:10 PM EST by MJFRacing]


Thanks for the info StonerStudent, redfisher & Feedingcannibal! Great sites with a lot of selection!


Link Posted: 10/3/2004 5:20:36 PM EST

Originally Posted By MJFRacing:

Any good web sites where you can view/review and purchase an auto knife?




Blade Auction

Triple Aught Design
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