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5/26/2016 9:35:32 PM EDT
Interesting article, possibly very big consequences:   https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/05/26/the-superbug-that-doctors-have-been-dreading-just-reached-the-u-s/
5/26/2016 9:37:11 PM EDT
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Uh huh. Yeah. Worried to death. Nothing sensationalist to see here. Panic and freak out, we're all going to die!
5/26/2016 9:37:14 PM EDT
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Here I was hoping for a souped-up Beetle...
5/26/2016 9:38:38 PM EDT
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Health officials said the case in Pennsylvania, by itself, is not cause for panic. The strain found in the woman is treatable with some other antibiotics. But researchers worry that the antibiotic-resistant gene found in the bacteria, known as mcr-1, could spread to other types of bacteria that can already evade other types of antibiotics.
5/26/2016 9:39:10 PM EDT
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Well, that's what happens when you have a bunch of dumbass doc-in-a box Urgent Care monkeys and Hospitalists throwing antibiotics at everything.
5/26/2016 9:39:39 PM EDT
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Me too but, I heard about this on the radio today.



 
5/26/2016 9:48:52 PM EDT
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If you know where this comes from.....

5/26/2016 9:54:44 PM EDT
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This could be bigger than swine flu

Maybe even bigger than SARS

Maybe bigger than Avian/Bird Flu

Maybe bigger than Ebola


I still think climate change should be our biggest concern..................

5/26/2016 9:59:07 PM EDT
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5/26/2016 10:00:22 PM EDT
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Captain tripps, is that you?
5/26/2016 10:16:25 PM EDT
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In most 3rd world countries you can buy any prescription meds you want whenever you want.   We are bring people in from the Middle East, Africa, Central and South America. where they are a breeding ground for drug resistant  diseaces
5/26/2016 10:21:35 PM EDT
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While that isn't great the food industry is worse... 80 percent of all antibiotics used in the United States are fed to farm animals.  Wrap your head around that shit.
5/26/2016 10:23:41 PM EDT
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#1 wire? Pull up bro!
5/26/2016 10:26:18 PM EDT
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I am kind of wondering what the real issue is that they're trying to divert our attention away from.
5/26/2016 10:28:37 PM EDT
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Sorry superbug, Zika is already the medical emergency du jour this year.  You'll have to wait til next year.
5/26/2016 10:29:03 PM EDT
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Is that from the nuclear war card game...I still have a set
5/26/2016 10:30:58 PM EDT
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Me too
Who the FUCK cares about fucking germs.
5/26/2016 10:33:21 PM EDT
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Damn, I thought it would be this
ETA beat

5/26/2016 10:38:15 PM EDT
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While that isn't great the food industry is worse... 80 percent of all antibiotics used in the United States are fed to farm animals.  Wrap your head around that shit.
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Well, that's what happens when you have a bunch of dumbass doc-in-a box Urgent Care monkeys and Hospitalists throwing antibiotics at everything.


While that isn't great the food industry is worse... 80 percent of all antibiotics used in the United States are fed to farm animals.  Wrap your head around that shit.

Yep. It also makes its way up the food chain.
5/26/2016 10:40:56 PM EDT
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I hope that's not what I caught at the NRA convention.  
5/26/2016 10:43:46 PM EDT
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I came here to see this.  I am dissapoint...

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5/26/2016 10:44:51 PM EDT
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A few years ago I heard we were working on a new kind of anti-biotic. Supposedly for anti-biotics to work, is sort of like inserting a key into a lock. All a bacteria has to do to become resistant is to develop a different lock and they key doesn't work. The new stuff acts like a tiny microbe that stabs the bacteria with it's skin. The people behind the research said that bacteria cannot become resistant because it would be like humans just all of a sudden developing bullet proof skin.





I'm paraphrasing, but it was a very interesting read. I wonder how that's progressed.


 



ETA: Like other posters though. It's a new year, and we MUST have something new to panic about.
5/26/2016 10:46:08 PM EDT
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Somebody with more current microbi work correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there limited "spaces" available on a plasmid for coding different forms of resistances? Can a single bacterium actually have all of the different forms of resistance or do some "fall off" when new resistances are coded for?
5/26/2016 10:47:51 PM EDT
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god,  you are a spelling resistant disease
5/26/2016 10:57:59 PM EDT
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Somebody with more current microbi work correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there limited "spaces" available on a plasmid for coding different forms of resistances? Can a single bacterium actually have all of the different forms of resistance or do some "fall off" when new resistances are coded for?
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The can have multiple plasmids.



And as mentioned this is from over use of antibiotics. Especially when people don't take the full course. Also poor isolation practices with in the hospital system is what spreads it to multiple patients.



 
5/26/2016 11:01:42 PM EDT
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So should I cough in my sleeve, tape around my windows, shelter in place?  Come on Government, save me.
5/26/2016 11:03:17 PM EDT
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Ayup....
5/26/2016 11:15:01 PM EDT
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Nope, this thread is about something dangerous.
5/27/2016 1:33:14 AM EDT
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Maybe bigger than Ebola


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If by "climate change", you mean liberals, I agree completely.
5/27/2016 1:35:11 AM EDT
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... gonna be as bad as Y2K
5/27/2016 1:41:43 AM EDT
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Good. A reason to continue my drinking habit.
5/27/2016 1:42:08 AM EDT
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5/27/2016 1:50:51 AM EDT
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Prince Phillip is hopeful.
5/27/2016 2:04:13 AM EDT
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As long as you have a healthy immune system, you don't have a lot to worry about.  Your body can fight off antibiotic-resistant bacteria.

5/27/2016 2:08:53 AM EDT
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I was living in a 2nd world Country (Bahamas)..  Came down with what the Doc (American) said was some kind of super bug. The second time I showed up after taking a full course of antis that did not work...he gave me two different types of antibiotics. He claimed that the  change up would take care of it. It did. Took 20 days, but worked.  One was Levaquin (spelling) the other something I never heard of before, don't remember the name.
5/27/2016 2:14:20 AM EDT
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What round for superbug?
5/27/2016 2:38:39 AM EDT
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   Health officials said the case in Pennsylvania, by itself, is not cause for panic. The strain found in the woman is treatable with some other antibiotics.
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So, the title is misleading.  The "superbug" can be treated with antibiotics?

Still, there is no doubt that antibiotics are some of the most overprescribed and misused drugs today.  Not only do they make the "bad bugs" more resistant, they tend to screw up the "good bugs" in your body, that we depend on.
5/27/2016 2:42:56 AM EDT
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120mm HEAT
5/27/2016 2:44:05 AM EDT
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So, the title is misleading.  The "superbug" can be treated with antibiotics?

Still, there is no doubt that antibiotics are some of the most overprescribed and misused drugs today.  Not only do they make the "bad bugs" more resistant, they tend to screw up the "good bugs" in your body, that we depend on.
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   Health officials said the case in Pennsylvania, by itself, is not cause for panic. The strain found in the woman is treatable with some other antibiotics.


So, the title is misleading.  The "superbug" can be treated with antibiotics?

Still, there is no doubt that antibiotics are some of the most overprescribed and misused drugs today.  Not only do they make the "bad bugs" more resistant, they tend to screw up the "good bugs" in your body, that we depend on.


The issue with this "superbug" is that it is resistant to colistin.  Bacteria can give their resistance to other bacteria, so basically any bacteria can become colistin-resistant now.  Therefore, bugs that are resistant to everything but colistin can become resistant to everything including colistin.

Do not underestimate the way bacteria share their bacterial resistance.  It's really quite remarkable.
5/27/2016 2:52:09 AM EDT
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This. Don't forget the 3rd world country next door either.
5/27/2016 3:02:11 AM EDT
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This. Don't forget the 3rd world country next door either.

This is why the third world should be quarantined, isolated, and air-dropped a steady supply of muskets and Greek philosophy texts until things work themselves out.
5/27/2016 3:04:35 AM EDT
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we appear to be  well into population overshoot,  just a  question of WHEN we reach the peak. The decrease, by whatever mode,  will be very rapid when it comes.
5/27/2016 3:20:38 AM EDT
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Only the Third World (China included) has an overpopulation problem. First World nations are suffering frighteningly low birth rates, approaching Children of Men levels among the most civilized ethnicities. Just look at the South Koreans.
5/27/2016 3:27:49 AM EDT
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This could be bigger than swine flu

Maybe even bigger than SARS

Maybe bigger than Avian/Bird Flu

Maybe bigger than Ebola


I still think climate change should be our biggest concern..................

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Not sure if serious...


If you are, then
5/27/2016 3:40:49 AM EDT
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In most 3rd world countries you can buy any prescription meds you want whenever you want.   We are bring people in from the Middle East, Africa, Central and South America. where they are a breeding ground for drug resistant  diseaces

This. Don't forget the 3rd world country next door either.

This is why the third world should be quarantined, isolated, and air-dropped a steady supply of muskets and Greek philosophy texts until things work themselves out.


5/27/2016 3:56:58 AM EDT
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True Dat.
5/27/2016 4:49:45 AM EDT
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Took my first antibiotics in 10+ years. Felt really uneasy doing it. I can't imagine how some people get the pills for every little infection
5/27/2016 6:29:10 AM EDT
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There's always some new threat to human health and welfare. I pay attention to the point of seeing if there's something to be done to reduce my risks of whatever the flavor of the month threat is, and that's it.
5/27/2016 6:32:41 AM EDT
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Sounds like we need more government to fend off the end of humanity from this superbug.

Who will be the unqualified, do-nothing, politically appointed superbug czar?
5/27/2016 9:55:42 AM EDT
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Maybe bigger than Avian/Bird Flu

Maybe bigger than Ebola


I still think climate change should be our biggest concern..................



Not sure if serious...


If you are, then




My biggest concern now is doing a better job at conveying sarcasm in the written word.
5/27/2016 10:29:35 AM EDT
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Do you have change for 25 million people?
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