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Posted: 10/2/2004 9:01:44 AM EST
XD or Glock? Which is better and why?
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:04:25 AM EST
XD. 'Cause it's not a Glock.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:14:35 AM EST
Id have to vote for the XD. i own an XD9sc and its pretty nice. Light enough to be comfortable carrying and it seems to point better then the Glock IMO....
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:21:18 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 9:33:07 AM EST by The_Beer_Slayer]
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:22:19 AM EST
XD
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:23:26 AM EST
[obligatory]get both
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:27:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 9:28:17 AM EST by -Absolut-]
XD- better grip angle and better trigger
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:27:34 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 9:35:02 AM EST by Admiral_Crunch]
XD -- much more comfortable and a better trigger.

ETA: Also the added grip safety gives me more peace-of-mind.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:28:52 AM EST
XD all the way.


Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:29:47 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 9:29:59 AM EST by -Absolut-]

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:31:59 AM EST
I like that OD one.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:32:56 AM EST
GLOCK
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:33:15 AM EST
HK USP
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:33:52 AM EST
Sig.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:38:49 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:41:44 AM EST
Glock=years of proven reliablty +at least 1000 times more glocks in service than xd.

Will the xd be labeled as reliable as a glock if it ever reached glocks level? I doubt it will or could.

Glock is the kalishnikov of pistols imho.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:42:17 AM EST
i have 2 HS2000's (b4 it was an XD)with more than 15000 rds each , not a hiccup
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:44:09 AM EST

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Glock=years of KABOOMS!.

fixed!
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:45:14 AM EST
My brother has a Glock.

I'll pass.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:45:20 AM EST
XD
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:49:43 AM EST
Leaning toward the XD...
I've heard of problems with the finish, so I was thinking of getting a stainless.
Thoughts?
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:54:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 9:56:37 AM EST by nationwide]

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By MrClean4Hire:
Glock Thoushands and thousands in use + careless reloading by amateurs =years of KABOOMS!.

fixed!



There, fixed it correctly for ya.

However, the question as to the BETTER plastic gun mouse trap has been sufficiently addressed:



HK USP

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:54:51 AM EST
+2 XD (we have 2)
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:56:08 AM EST

Originally Posted By Nate1:
Leaning toward the XD...
I've heard of problems with the finish, so I was thinking of getting a stainless.
Thoughts?



There is a glock that has had 250k rds thru it and still shoots. You can leave a glock buried for a year and still shoot it. The finish is ok I guess
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 9:59:55 AM EST
In terms of reliability, my local indoor range(now closed) has a Glock 17 that has shot 500,000 rounds on the original frame and slide(slide cracked and was replaced at this point), and 750,000 on the original frame. The gun has probably shot more because system only counts ammo bought from the range, and people often smuggle in ammo from the outside.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:00:49 AM EST
JUST (litterally less than 2 hours ago) bought a new 4" OD XD-9. Im just waiting to take it to the range. I recommend the XD so far
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:02:11 AM EST
Ruger
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:17:50 AM EST
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+ for a $200 dollar gun with the springfeild name on it? Glock all the way their various service records are unapproachable with the exception of H&K, maybe.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:18:27 AM EST
sig

if not, i'd go w/ the glock
i think its more durable, reliable


sa's xd is made in croatia; and sa service/quality sucks

i'd take austria anyday over croatia
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:20:07 AM EST

Originally Posted By The_Beer_Slayer:
XD

edited to add the why,

no need to buy an after market barrel to shoot lead reloads
reliability every bit as good
better grip
better trigger
better accuracy <for me>
So far very few reported KBs
SA does not support ballistic fingerprinting of weapons
Price runs about 75-150.00 cheaper here.

there have been reports that the finish is not as durable as glock but i have not had an issue with mine.




Big +1


I love my XD
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:21:25 AM EST
XD
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:23:48 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+ for a $200 dollar gun with the springfeild name on it?



That's why I bought an HS2000.

Of course, I never saw even the HS2000 for $200. $275-350 was typical. Got mine for about $310.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:45:14 AM EST
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 10:52:26 AM EST
There's an XD under my bed right now :)
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 11:06:38 AM EST

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+.

funny, i paid $390 for mine.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 11:15:42 AM EST
Glock.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 11:17:42 AM EST

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
HK USP



+1 x 100
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 12:43:11 PM EST
XD40sc after 300rds. and no burps,hiccups,zero fte's etc. the groups gettin tighter...very nice Pistola for the money IMO
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 12:55:59 PM EST
Right now for the history and my personal expierence, Glock.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 12:57:40 PM EST
My XD9 is a great gun. I have one, and will not hesitate to buy another. The XD also has a lifetime warranty and from what I hear, excellent customer service. I have several thousand rounds through mine, zero problems.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 12:58:28 PM EST

Originally Posted By wheelow:

Originally Posted By SPECTRE:
HK USP



+1 x 100



I was just going to say it...

Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:01:35 PM EST
Hard to beat the Glock 17...and this is coming from an HK fan.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:04:04 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+.

funny, i paid $390 for mine.



Funny, found one for 380$

4" 9mm black.
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:04:39 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+.

funny, i paid $390 for mine.



Got a sub 40 and sub 9. Paid less than $400 each. Like my USP too
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:05:13 PM EST

Originally Posted By x5060:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+.

funny, i paid $390 for mine.



Funny, found one for 380$

4" 9mm black.

extra $10 for OD
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 1:09:26 PM EST

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By x5060:

Originally Posted By -Absolut-:

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+.

funny, i paid $390 for mine.



Funny, found one for 380$

4" 9mm black.

extra $10 for OD



Yeha, i payed a slight premium for OD too

It looks great though!
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 2:02:17 PM EST
Glock
Link Posted: 10/2/2004 2:28:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/2/2004 2:31:14 PM EST by WesDesRat]

Originally Posted By Mattl:
You realize in buying an XD you are paying $500+ for a $200 dollar gun with the springfeild name on it? Glock all the way their various service records are unapproachable with the exception of H&K, maybe.



I paid $400 for mine, and most places you can get them for well under $500. The most anyone has been asking for ANY version of the XD around here has been $499.99 for the Subcompact 9mm with Henie night sights. Tacticals in 9mm and .40 are going for about $459... I have heard of some folks getting prices as low as $300, which is very close to what the HS2000's were going for. In addition to raising the prices a bit Springfeild Armory has brought us more options: 3" Subcompact in 9mm and .40, the 4" Duty in .40 and .357 Sig (though there were a very small number of HS2000's imported in .40 before SA started importing them), and all three flavors of the Tactical---most of those probably wouldnt have happened if not for SA marketing 'em.

Given enough time, I think they could approach Glock in the LE market, but I dont know if SA plans to hound the LE agencies like Glock did in the 80's and 90's...

Yes, there is room for improvement... Glocks can KABOOM, XD's might rust.... but my XD-9 has a ton of rounds through it, and I trust my life to it.

+1 for the XD (and it looks like I'm not alone in saying so)

ETA: SA is also supposed to be bring the XD out in .45GAP (ALL YOU .45 ACP FANS FORM A LINE AND START BTICHING HERE...)
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 9:56:12 PM EST
[Last Edit: 10/12/2004 11:10:40 PM EST by sc6gun]
Having carried and shot both for work, I favor the Glock.
why?
1) My Glock never rusted or broke.
2) The magazine changeout is quicker/quieter with the Glock.
3) The backstrap safety can be a little weird sometimes shooting offhand.
4) The Glock disassembles easier.
5) Did I say the Glock never rusted?

The place I work is hard on firearms. We shoot a lot. They get worn in all types of weather and banged around. We have had a few problems with the XD (broken firing pins and the like). Went to these from S&W...don't know why. It is a matter of what you want and your particular application. IMHO the Glock is proven and more durable. The XD is a nice pistol, but personally I like the Glock, regardless of the politics. Just my $.02 worth.

Edited to add why.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 9:57:24 PM EST
XD.

Screw glock.
Link Posted: 10/12/2004 10:05:35 PM EST
both
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