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10/5/2017 9:49:22 PM EDT
Well, here's a distraction from bumpfire!


This is one of those posts...should I or should I not post in GD. I've had plenty of personal and family drama recently, and I've vented in Team and the outpouring for both of my issues has been really nice. I expect all sorts of oddness here.


This issue is (to me) so odd that I think the GD shenanigans might be fun.


Here's the scoop: Wife and I have several kids, plus 3 others, pending adoption (no pix of wife or kids)


My oldest kid is a male. His resemblance to my BIL is stunning. As in, FIL calls my son by HIS son's name. It is really kind of weird. If you saw pix of them at the same age, you'd swear they are twins. BIL is 20 years younger than my wife. He was a "surprise" to my in-laws.





Here is where it gets awkward. BIL was in Iraq and had an incident with an IED. IED took one of his lower legs, and (unbeknownst to us until today) his ability to make babies. He claims he can still "do the deed" but he shoots blanks. He's a good guy, I don't doubt him.

His older brother was snipped decades ago. His dad too. He wants "blood" to make a baby with his wife. I thought he was kidding when he asked, but he asked me (grateful he didn't hit up my son first) if my kid would donate sperm for his child (or children).

Honestly, I'm torn. As noted above, my son looks just like him and even favors his mannerisms. But something seems odd about having 1/2 of his sister's DNA in his kid. It won't mix with his DNA, just that of his wife. I guess 1/2 of his sister is close to 1/2 of him?

Also, his wife of 5 years came up with the idea - when he called me (not my wife/his sister) his wife was right there with him. It was a very interesting call.

I have ZERO concern about legal issues/paternity. This is more about ethics/family/weirdness.


I am sure my son would do whatever his Uncle asks. Am I out of line to feel really odd about this request? Is this what families do in 2017?




TL: DR - BIL wants his wife to have a baby with my son.  
10/5/2017 9:51:20 PM EDT
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Are we talking turkey baster style or Brazzers style?
10/5/2017 9:51:59 PM EDT
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If everyone is happy and cool with it, good bless and enjoy life and children.

As long as it goes in a Dixie cup 
10/5/2017 10:01:36 PM EDT
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FPNI & SPNI
10/5/2017 10:05:11 PM EDT
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Well, she is cute....


Sadly for my kid it would be very clinical
10/5/2017 10:10:51 PM EDT
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So he'll be raising your grandchild, I mean genetically speaking.

Some of the genetic math and relationships seem a little strange, but I can see him wanting a child that he shares at least some DNA with.
10/5/2017 10:11:25 PM EDT
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How old is your son?
10/5/2017 10:13:52 PM EDT
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Is Oregen like the northwest version of Alabama and West Virginia
10/5/2017 10:15:13 PM EDT
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Best first post ever.

10/5/2017 10:15:18 PM EDT
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He should only agree if done "naturally".
10/5/2017 10:15:20 PM EDT
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Are you sure that's its not negotiable
10/5/2017 10:16:22 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 10:17:16 PM EDT
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You should have concerns about the potential legal issues.

No contract the parents sign can completely protect your son from potential child support. Doesn't take a lot of
googling to find nightmare outcomes for non anonymous sperm donors.
10/5/2017 10:19:26 PM EDT
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It is totally up to your son IMO. What says he?
10/5/2017 10:20:23 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 10:22:24 PM EDT
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Without thinking it through
Sorry but nope.
10/5/2017 10:22:39 PM EDT
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BIL to your sister? So that would mean we’d have the same genetic results as if your son banged your sister, while your BIL watches like a cuckold.

Got it. Or am I missing something?
10/5/2017 10:22:47 PM EDT
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Just hope they pass the psychological exam.  My aunt was going to be a surrogate for her sister, there were psychological exam sessions performed and she failed.

They asked her, after the baby was born, and you see him/her at a family get together would you feel as though that baby is your nephew/niece or your own child?

aunt responded, "I'd just see a bastard across the table". lol.....  They didn't let her go through with it.
10/5/2017 10:24:49 PM EDT
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Bloody hell man, If I wasn't broke and had $24 laying around, I would buy you a membership for the best first post of the year.  

OP, don't do it... that sounds like WAY too much drama to be injecting into your life.  
10/5/2017 10:27:51 PM EDT
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interesting you are from oregon and not alabama
10/5/2017 10:33:10 PM EDT
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FPNI!! Go brzzers style
10/5/2017 10:33:27 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 10:42:53 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 10:54:52 PM EDT
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My first thoughts.

Everyone in the family is going to know who is the real father. Is that wise? Is that going to mess with your son's head when he gets older?

What about the child, how is it going to affect him when he finds out his father is really his cousin?
10/5/2017 11:03:49 PM EDT
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Grandpa to your neice/nephew and he is the father to his cousin.


Tag.
10/5/2017 11:05:09 PM EDT
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Your son and your BIL's wife are not genetically related so I don't see a problem with this from that point.
10/5/2017 11:07:20 PM EDT
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If he is still intact they can extract with a needle.
10/5/2017 11:11:51 PM EDT
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The whole thing is confusing. My kid has yet to be notified. As noted in the OP, he'd do anything for his uncle.



Also, I must say that the FPNI even though I am too close to it. I needed a laugh.

I am going to think on it this weekend. There are a ton on weird ramifications and probably a billion unintended consequnces.
10/5/2017 11:14:47 PM EDT
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I think it's a bad idea.
10/5/2017 11:15:10 PM EDT
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I just don't see how that could possibly work out well for any of the parties involved.

Especially your son.  

Get a lawyer if he is even thinking about 'yes'.  A good family law attorney who can at least tell you what the scope is of the minefield he's walking into.  And it's his minefield not yours.

I can't ever see thinking that this is a good idea.
10/5/2017 11:19:16 PM EDT
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Uncle Jim asking you to jerk off in a cup is never not weird...
10/5/2017 11:23:28 PM EDT
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If Brazzers style, this *could* be a bumpfire thread...
10/5/2017 11:25:32 PM EDT
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Fuck,  you got me lol.
10/5/2017 11:27:40 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 11:27:44 PM EDT
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Wow, I hope the SIL isn't named Dixie...
10/5/2017 11:28:28 PM EDT
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I am trying to come up with a reason that it is not a bad idea.

As noted the legal stuff would be ok. But the dynamic just seems odd. Or weird. Or gross or something
10/5/2017 11:28:44 PM EDT
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Legal precedent is bad.  Like 18 years of child support fucking bad.

Other avenues should be pursued. 
10/5/2017 11:32:32 PM EDT
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Outstanding! You have restored my faith in GD. 

ETA: I thought watching Altuve hitting 3 home runs against the Red Socks would be the highlight of my day.
10/5/2017 11:33:28 PM EDT
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I am trying to come up with a reason that it is not a bad idea.

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That's my opinion as well. I don't think child support or anything like that would end up being an issue, but as you said, the entire family would know who the biological father was and eventually the child would know too. When your son decides to have a family of his own, this will weigh on him too. Other factors may be overlooked, but I think your son, while honorable in helping his uncle, would not appreciate the depth of the situation he would be getting into.
10/5/2017 11:34:06 PM EDT
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What do you mean, one of his lower legs? There is only a left and right, is he a millipede?

Again, how old is your son?
10/5/2017 11:34:16 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 11:34:36 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 11:41:41 PM EDT
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As the kid/s get older and find out who biological father is, it could be a nightmare.

The sperm bank donor would likely have less drama involved later in the kid/s life.

The age of your son could easily fuck with his head, it may sound great right now, but when the kid is born he will know it is biologically his kid.  Can he handle that?
10/5/2017 11:41:47 PM EDT
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10/5/2017 11:47:17 PM EDT
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how old is your son?  or did I miss that?
10/5/2017 11:48:49 PM EDT
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I'm dying to know why you think this?   There are a lot of things that could occur that would make the "legal stuff"  very NOT OK for your son for a long time.   How old is he?
10/5/2017 11:53:04 PM EDT
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Why don't they want to adopt? You've got adopted kids as a good example for them, but they'd rather do this awkward thing to keep it in the family?

I've always wanted to adopt, even though my wife and I have no trouble making babies. Lots of kids out there in need of a home.
10/6/2017 12:07:35 AM EDT
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Yeah, that is a terrible idea all around
10/6/2017 12:08:03 AM EDT
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OP, I think it is up to your son.
Is it weird? Maybe a little. But your son can give that vet the gift of life if your son chooses to.
Is adoption a better fit? Maybe.
You and your son should talk this out with a psychologist before making a commitment too. It may be a requirement of the fertility clinic anyway.
You son may not like having his own child carried by someone else, it may be weird for him at family gatherings.

I'd think long and hard, but I'd do it if I felt it was the right choice.
10/9/2017 1:09:55 PM EDT
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Anthrax - Keep It In The Family
10/9/2017 1:14:48 PM EDT
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