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Posted: 7/21/2021 6:13:20 PM EDT
(CNN)Spanish porn star Nacho Vidal has been charged with reckless homicide after a man died during a ceremony involving toad venom.

Vidal, whose real name is Ignacio Jord Gonzlez, was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter in May following an 11-month investigation, according to a statement at the time from Spain's law enforcement agency, the Guardia Civil.


The investigation showed the victim, a photographer, died after participating in a "spiritual or mystical" ceremony in July 2019 in the town of Enguera, near Valencia, in eastern Spain, according to a statement from a court in Xtiva, a town in the province of Valencia.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/03/19/europe/spanish-porn-star-toad-venom-death-scli-intl/index.html

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:14:43 PM EDT
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Saint Peter:  So, whatcha in for?

Dude:  Porn toad venom death.

Saint Peter:  Get the fuck out.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:15:20 PM EDT
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Dude:  Porn toad venom death.

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Hahaha.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:22:37 PM EDT
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Its a dude and a cnn article.

Save the click
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:27:43 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:28:36 PM EDT
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Spanish?

Pfffffffttttttttt

Nachos are Mexican
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:29:12 PM EDT
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Thank you

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Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:29:32 PM EDT
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IDGAF
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:34:46 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, in the US, the toad related death would be due to somebody trying to fuck the frog.
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Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:38:34 PM EDT
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:39:30 PM EDT
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So they were trying to get high on super DMT while fucking each other in the ass and sniffing frogs
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:40:10 PM EDT
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The hero we need.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 6:59:10 PM EDT
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It's not toad venom. It's toad poison. Dangerous if you eat it.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:11:19 PM EDT
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Killed someone? What a dick.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:16:33 PM EDT
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Bunch- a frog fuckers up in there!
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I am just surprised nobody responded with...

"The dude croaked"
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:24:19 PM EDT
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

Link Posted: 7/21/2021 7:59:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:05:39 PM EDT
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I am guessing it is bufotenin which is a hallucinogen that is excreted by the skin of certain toads.  It is though to be a defense mechanism against being eaten.  

Generally hallucinogens are not that lethal.  I will have to read the story and see if they provide any additional information.

Edit.  Yep, read the story, it is bufotenin.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bufotenin
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:10:28 PM EDT
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

The danger with toad poison is the therapeutic dose and lethal dose are real close.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:13:43 PM EDT
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Nacho Vidal.
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 8:59:51 PM EDT
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Nacho Vidal?

a web search just turned up with Francesca Jaimes.. ( very nice)
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:09:42 PM EDT
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Same, guess it's his wife.  I'd be missing that in prison.


Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:12:55 PM EDT
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I Googled him and I'm a cross in between "Not Guilty" and repulsed....

I mean, physically

But, he appears to have the personality of a gross piece of shit...
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:13:26 PM EDT
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OD’d on 5 meo dmt? Are they sure about that?
Link Posted: 7/21/2021 9:26:39 PM EDT
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Was gonna post Nacho Libre, but I’m late.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:08:25 PM EDT
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This.

We have those toads all over the place down here. Cane toads aka marine toads.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:11:50 PM EDT
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Now I want nachos.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:12:59 PM EDT
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was he trying to put the toad in his butt?
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:14:45 PM EDT
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I feel bad for the toad
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:14:59 PM EDT
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

The danger with toad poison is the therapeutic dose and lethal dose are real close.


What the hell is a therapeutic dose of toad venom for?
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:15:20 PM EDT
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What the hell is a therapeutic dose of toad venom for?
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

The danger with toad poison is the therapeutic dose and lethal dose are real close.


What the hell is a therapeutic dose of toad venom for?


butt hurt
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:24:06 PM EDT
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That’s a solid porn star name
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Nacho is the short, affectionate  version of Ignacio
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:28:01 PM EDT
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Sounds more French than Spanish, but... still gross.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:28:32 PM EDT
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"Who killed that man?"

"Nacho Vidal."

"I know he's not MY Vidal, but who's Vidal is he?"

"Nacho Vidal!"

"I know!"
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:30:13 PM EDT
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Tell me you're a dad without telling me you're a dad.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:30:57 PM EDT
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That dude is very rough on buttholes

No homo
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:39:14 PM EDT
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The episode of Hamilton's Pharmacopeia covering the Toad Venom....




....let's just say that's gonna be a hard pass from me, Bro.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:46:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:53:49 PM EDT
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Who ya fuckin?

Nacho momma!!!
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 4:57:08 PM EDT
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This.

We have those toads all over the place down here. Cane toads aka marine toads.
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This.

We have those toads all over the place down here. Cane toads aka marine toads.


Do y'all lickem.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:00:34 PM EDT
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

The danger with toad poison is the therapeutic dose and lethal dose are real close.


What the hell is a therapeutic dose of toad venom for?

 Two and three headed snakes are hard to come by with out it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2021 5:06:25 PM EDT
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/o.canada.com/news/world/porn-star-charged-with-murder-in-bizarre-toad-venom-case/wcm/c3d64914-e8a3-4d6c-a810-31f202f26ce7/amp/


A better link.
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I remember a short-lived trend where people were licking them for the hallucinogenic effects.
Couple decades ago

The danger with toad poison is the therapeutic dose and lethal dose are real close.


What the hell is a therapeutic dose of toad venom for?


Therapeutic dose in pharmacology is generally referred to as the dose that produces the desired effect.  That effect need not really be therapeutic in nature.

More commonly what is referred to is the therapeutic index which is the difference between the ED50 and LD50.  

The ED50 (effective dose 50%) is the dose where 50% of the subjects show the drug's effect.  The LD50 (lethal dose 50%) is the dose where 50% of the subject die.    

The difference between those is called the therapeutic index.  The smaller the ratio the more dangerous drugs are because you have to get pretty close to a potentially lethal dose in order to produce the desired effect.  If the ratio of between the two is large that means the drug is less dangerous.  

Oddly enough, another hallucinogen LSD has an incredibly high therapeutic index because it produces hallucinogenic effects at microgram doses but required really high doses to actually be lethal.

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