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10/10/2015 12:07:34 AM EDT







I grew up in a hardcore democrat household, and I watched MSNBC almost  everyday involuntarily. I remember hearing about the "southern strategy" on the Rachel Maddow show.







The google definition of the "southern strategy" is, "In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican Party strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in the Southern United States by appealing to racism against African Americans."





*Sincere question*







What is your opinion? Is this a real strategy, or is my tinfoil too tight?


 
10/10/2015 12:12:11 AM EDT
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Your believe is the interest of the democrats to blame the Republicans for the last 150 years of black hatred



It was the democrats who started the civil war and the KKK and the Jim Crow laws



The Republicans passed the 14,15 and 16th amendments, against the democrats



Don't believe the lies  
10/10/2015 1:30:53 AM EDT
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It's a real strategy. It was devised by Harry Dent.

Harry was a CIA agent before and during the time he went to work with Strom Thurmond and then became Richard Nixon's top aide, and his strategy won the south for the Republicans for the first time since the Civil War.He and my father were best friends in college and went in the military together, my dad went into the FBI when Harry went into the CIA.

Douglas Kiker was also in their trio of friends in college and the military.  Kiker was a TV journalist, and one of the ones that broke the JFK assassination. He was in the news bus behind Kennedy when it happened. he worked with David Brinkley on NBC nightly news as an anchor and reporter. Kiker and Dent were both in Dallas when JFK was assassinated.

All three were roommates at Presbyterian College.

Harry used to stop by and visit any chance he got to visit and eat with us, came for Christmas and stuff sometimes, even when he worked for Nixon, and Kiker occasionally did. All of that is why I became a news / politics junkie.  I sat around and listened and heard all that stuff. Daddy got caught up in the Watergate mess, theTownhouse Operation bundling part for Strom Thurmond. He wasn't that deep, so he was cleared, thankfully.

These are pics from the Presbyterian College yearbook, the PacSac from 1950.

this is the yearbook staff, Harry Dent 3rd from the left and Douglas Kiker 4th from the left.



This is Company C ( ROTC ) 2nd Platoon, Dent is front left.



This one is Company B, First Platoon, my dad is the Platoon Sgt, 2nd from right, bottom row.




I was just going through this and the Citadel ones uploading pics for family.

Damn those pics blew up big, what????








10/10/2015 1:33:00 AM EDT
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lol. not sure if serios
10/10/2015 1:35:59 AM EDT
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You can read some on the Strategy here. Most of it is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Dent,_Sr.

They made it sound more racist than it was.

Dent has been described as having helped to articulate the Southern Strategy. Its detractors called it "racism" cloaked in code words like "law and order." Its advocates called it a legitimate appeal to people sidelined by their compatriots who benefit from affirmative action and government aid programs.

The strategy was credited with Nixon's nomination and election. Dent was rewarded with a post as special counsel and political strategist to the new president. Dent worked in the White House for four years and also worked on the image of his old boss, Senator Thurmond. "We’re going to get him on the high ground of fairness on the race question," Dent said in 1971, as Thurmond began hiring the first blacks to his staff and steering federal grants to predominantly African American rural areas. Thurmond's change in attitude came after the defeat in November 1970 of his choice for governor, U.S. Representative Albert Watson of South Carolina's 2nd congressional district, who ran on a conservative platform that his critics called "racist".[3]
10/10/2015 1:47:22 AM EDT
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Here's a blurb about the bundling.

In 1974, after he had left the Nixon administration, Dent pleaded guilty to aiding an illegal fund-raising operation organized by the White House. He complained bitterly that he had pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor because he was certain that he would not receive a fair trial in the post-Watergate climate in Washington, D.C. A federal judge described Dent as “more of the victim than the perpetrator” and placed him on one month's unsupervised probation.


My father was under Dent working to help Thurmond's campaign and got caught up in that mess. He was lower on the totem pole and never had to testify. He did have to give statements, but not in the court room and the high profile trial like Dent did.

It was the Townhouse Operation.
10/10/2015 2:11:14 AM EDT
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You can read some on the Strategy here. Most of it is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Dent,_Sr.

They made it sound more racist than it was.

Dent has been described as having helped to articulate the Southern Strategy. Its detractors called it "racism" cloaked in code words like "law and order." Its advocates called it a legitimate appeal to people sidelined by their compatriots who benefit from affirmative action and government aid programs.

The strategy was credited with Nixon's nomination and election. Dent was rewarded with a post as special counsel and political strategist to the new president. Dent worked in the White House for four years and also worked on the image of his old boss, Senator Thurmond. "We’re going to get him on the high ground of fairness on the race question," Dent said in 1971, as Thurmond began hiring the first blacks to his staff and steering federal grants to predominantly African American rural areas. Thurmond's change in attitude came after the defeat in November 1970 of his choice for governor, U.S. Representative Albert Watson of South Carolina's 2nd congressional district, who ran on a conservative platform that his critics called "racist".[3]
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You can read some on the Strategy here. Most of it is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Dent,_Sr.

They made it sound more racist than it was.

Dent has been described as having helped to articulate the Southern Strategy. Its detractors called it "racism" cloaked in code words like "law and order." Its advocates called it a legitimate appeal to people sidelined by their compatriots who benefit from affirmative action and government aid programs.

The strategy was credited with Nixon's nomination and election. Dent was rewarded with a post as special counsel and political strategist to the new president. Dent worked in the White House for four years and also worked on the image of his old boss, Senator Thurmond. "We’re going to get him on the high ground of fairness on the race question," Dent said in 1971, as Thurmond began hiring the first blacks to his staff and steering federal grants to predominantly African American rural areas. Thurmond's change in attitude came after the defeat in November 1970 of his choice for governor, U.S. Representative Albert Watson of South Carolina's 2nd congressional district, who ran on a conservative platform that his critics called "racist".[3]


The name Harry Dent kept bugging me while I was reading your post Pavlov. I knew I had heard that name recently, but not in a political context. His son (jr) is a financial guy with some really interesting takes on demographics and finance, particularly the FUBAR mess we are in. Granted, many of his predictions have been very very wrong. What was cool was his research on age/spending etc and how various generations play into it.

Cool stuff, thanks for tying it all together  

10/10/2015 2:13:14 AM EDT
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I have no idea.
How many coal mines in your state have been closed by Obama?
10/10/2015 2:29:20 AM EDT
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10/10/2015 2:31:29 AM EDT
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OP got the hots for Rachell
10/10/2015 2:35:57 AM EDT
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The name Harry Dent kept bugging me while I was reading your post Pavlov. I knew I had heard that name recently, but not in a political context. His son (jr) is a financial guy with some really interesting takes on demographics and finance, particularly the FUBAR mess we are in. Granted, many of his predictions have been very very wrong. What was cool was his research on age/spending etc and how various generations play into it.

Cool stuff, thanks for tying it all together  

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You can read some on the Strategy here. Most of it is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Dent,_Sr.

They made it sound more racist than it was.

Dent has been described as having helped to articulate the Southern Strategy. Its detractors called it "racism" cloaked in code words like "law and order." Its advocates called it a legitimate appeal to people sidelined by their compatriots who benefit from affirmative action and government aid programs.

The strategy was credited with Nixon's nomination and election. Dent was rewarded with a post as special counsel and political strategist to the new president. Dent worked in the White House for four years and also worked on the image of his old boss, Senator Thurmond. "We’re going to get him on the high ground of fairness on the race question," Dent said in 1971, as Thurmond began hiring the first blacks to his staff and steering federal grants to predominantly African American rural areas. Thurmond's change in attitude came after the defeat in November 1970 of his choice for governor, U.S. Representative Albert Watson of South Carolina's 2nd congressional district, who ran on a conservative platform that his critics called "racist".[3]


The name Harry Dent kept bugging me while I was reading your post Pavlov. I knew I had heard that name recently, but not in a political context. His son (jr) is a financial guy with some really interesting takes on demographics and finance, particularly the FUBAR mess we are in. Granted, many of his predictions have been very very wrong. What was cool was his research on age/spending etc and how various generations play into it.

Cool stuff, thanks for tying it all together  



Yeah, Harry Jr really got it right once or twice, but he missed a few years ago. He's been fairly accurate overall. He's really a smart guy, his dad was too. I've only talked to Jr. a few times, last time I talked to him was when I called to let him know my father died, and the time before that was when his dad died. Funny how similar the paths were between them. His dad and mine both became Southern Baptist preachers in the 80s, his was around 1981 I think, and mine was 1985. Harry Sr was an interesting man, had traveled all over the world with Nixon's team.
10/10/2015 3:26:59 AM EDT
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10/10/2015 5:44:51 AM EDT
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10/10/2015 7:10:32 AM EDT
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It should refer to LBJ:   "I'll have them  *********s voting Democratic for the next 200 years"

10/10/2015 7:26:12 AM EDT
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I grew up in a hardcore democrat household, and I watched MSNBC almost  everyday involuntarily. I remember hearing about the "southern strategy" on the Rachel Maddow show.


The google definition of the "southern strategy" is, "In American politics, the Southern strategy refers to a Republican Party strategy of gaining political support for certain candidates in the Southern United States by appealing to racism against African Americans."


*Sincere question*


What is your opinion? Is this a real strategy, or is my tinfoil too tight?

 
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Lol, I bet Rachel thinks some of us still own slaves to.

And if by racism you meen black city councilmen referring to white city councilmen as pale faces?

I've never once heard any white politician down here say anything close to something that could be considered "southern strategy".

I have heard second hand accounts of black politicians making blatant racist remarks during city council meetings.
10/10/2015 1:21:48 PM EDT
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